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ORIGINAL: jlf1961
If I remember my polysci class correctly, a police state is a state in which the government exercises rigid and repressive controls over the social, economic, and political life of the population.
Okay, this morning, "Million Bikers to DC" and Military Veterans destroyed barricades blocking access to a memorial under the watchful eye of DC and Park Service police officers.
The "minions" of the police state did not do their job under the rules of police state ethics, they made no arrests, they beat no one with night sticks, they did not even fire a weapon.
They used anything but draconian methods to deal with the protestors.
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Now compared to Kent State, dealing with the protests at UC Berkley, and others during the Nixon years, I do believe that the oppressive force playbook got lost in the period from Nixon to Obama.
Considering that the Republican House would not even look at a budget that did not defund Obamacare, and after looking over the powers given the president by the constitution, I confirmed what I already thought I knew.
1) The president cannot arbitrarily decide on a national budget, he has to be presented one from the legislative branch.
2) The president has no control over what is considered essential expenditures and what is not essential.
So someone want to explain how all of this is just President Obama's fault?

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ORIGINAL: sloguy02246
Obviously you do not watch the "fair and balanced" news on Fox.
Tune in to any of their commentary programs. It matters not who is talking or what the topic is. After watching for only a few seconds, you will find out that President Obama is indeed the one, true source of all that is wrong and evil in our country and society.

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ORIGINAL: kalikshama
Rep. Steve King Says Any Government Shutdown Will Be the Fault of Obama 'Tantrum' - Not Republicans

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So the House will make sure that the funds are available. And if the president should decide he’s going to shut down the government, it will never be the House of Representatives, if this happens it will be either an act of either Harry Reid and the Democrats in the Senate or the president or them working in conjunction with each other,” King said. “If the president decides to shut the government down, it will be the equivalent of a political tantrum, saying ‘I will have my piece of signature legislation even if the American people reject it and I’ll punish you by shutting the government down if I don’t get my way.’”

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
Rallier tells Obama to 'put the Quran down'
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CNN's Ashley Killough and Shannon Travis and Brian Rokus
Updated 3:37 p.m. ET, 10/13/2013
Washington (CNN) - Angered by the closure of national landmarks due to the partial government shutdown, a crowd of conservatives removed barricades Sunday at the World War II Memorial and the Lincoln Memorial as they rallied against President Barack Obama and Democrats for their role in the ongoing stalemate.
High-profile speakers with close ties to the tea party appeared at the event, including former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin and Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas.
The rally, billed as the "Million Vet March on the Memorials," drew far fewer than a million people and evolved into a protest that resembled familiar tea party events from 2009, with yellow "Don't Tread On Me" flags throughout the crowd and strong anti-Obama language from the podium and the audience.
One speaker went as far as saying the president was a Muslim and separately urged the crowd of hundreds to initiate a peaceful uprising.
"I call upon all of you to wage a second American nonviolent revolution, to use civil disobedience, and to demand that this president leave town, to get up, to put the Quran down, to get up off his knees, and to figuratively come out with his hands up," said Larry Klayman of Freedom Watch, a conservative political advocacy group.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/10/13/at-tea-party-like-rally-obama-told-to-put-the-quran-down/?hpt=hp_t2
weeeeeeee

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
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One speaker went as far as saying the president was a Muslim and separately urged the crowd of hundreds to initiate a peaceful uprising.
"I call upon all of you to wage a second American nonviolent revolution, to use civil disobedience, and to demand that this president leave town, to get up, to put the Quran down, to get up off his knees, and to figuratively come out with his hands up," said Larry Klayman of Freedom Watch, a conservative political advocacy group.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/10/13/at-tea-party-like-rally-obama-told-to-put-the-quran-down/?hpt=hp_t2
weeeeeeee

I only have two comments to these knuckleheads (the people in the article):

1. Shut the fuck up about Obama being a Muslim.
2. Even if he is Muslim, who the fuck cares?!? Isn't the President free to practice a religion of his choice?
unnique

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: kalikshama
Rep. Steve King Says Any Government Shutdown Will Be the Fault of Obama 'Tantrum' - Not Republicans

Did you even read the article, or just the headline?!?

LMAO!

I took your first link and no others were even needed.

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So the House will make sure that the funds are available. And if the president should decide he’s going to shut down the government, it will never be the House of Representatives, if this happens it will be either an act of either Harry Reid and the Democrats in the Senate or the president or them working in conjunction with each other,” King said. “If the president decides to shut the government down, it will be the equivalent of a political tantrum, saying ‘I will have my piece of signature legislation even if the American people reject it and I’ll punish you by shutting the government down if I don’t get my way.’”

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
Rallier tells Obama to 'put the Quran down'
Posted by
CNN's Ashley Killough and Shannon Travis and Brian Rokus
Updated 3:37 p.m. ET, 10/13/2013
Washington (CNN) - Angered by the closure of national landmarks due to the partial government shutdown, a crowd of conservatives removed barricades Sunday at the World War II Memorial and the Lincoln Memorial as they rallied against President Barack Obama and Democrats for their role in the ongoing stalemate.
High-profile speakers with close ties to the tea party appeared at the event, including former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin and Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas.
The rally, billed as the "Million Vet March on the Memorials," drew far fewer than a million people and evolved into a protest that resembled familiar tea party events from 2009, with yellow "Don't Tread On Me" flags throughout the crowd and strong anti-Obama language from the podium and the audience.
One speaker went as far as saying the president was a Muslim and separately urged the crowd of hundreds to initiate a peaceful uprising.
"I call upon all of you to wage a second American nonviolent revolution, to use civil disobedience, and to demand that this president leave town, to get up, to put the Quran down, to get up off his knees, and to figuratively come out with his hands up," said Larry Klayman of Freedom Watch, a conservative political advocacy group.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/10/13/at-tea-party-like-rally-obama-told-to-put-the-quran-down/?hpt=hp_t2
weeeeeeee

I only have two comments to these knuckleheads (the people in the article):

1. Shut the fuck up about Obama being a Muslim.
2. Even if he is Muslim, who the fuck cares?!? Isn't the President free to practice a religion of his choice?

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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle
There are many conservative folk who abhor racism as much as everyone else. Why do they tolerate hatemongers and racists in their ranks?

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle
There are many conservative folk who abhor racism as much as everyone else. Why do they tolerate hatemongers and racists in their ranks?

There are racists in pretty much every group.

This is really about freedom of religion and not racial discrimination, though.

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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle
There are many conservative folk who abhor racism as much as everyone else. Why do they tolerate hatemongers and racists in their ranks?

There are racists in pretty much every group.
This is really about freedom of religion and not racial discrimination, though.

Sorry DS, but the Right doesn't get off so easily. You might find racists in any given group of people but you only find organised racism on the Right. The KKK weren't a group of bleeding heart liberals were they?
The Right has a long history of organising racism, of profiting from racism, and opposing every anti-racist measure just about everywhere in the West. It will take a lot more than a few glib remarks for people to forgive the Right its past.
Especially as elements on the Right continue to fan flames of racism with little or no attempts to rein them in coming from Right wing leaders. Silence is complicity.

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Dressed in robes and sheets, intended to prevent identification by the occupying federal troops (and supposedly designed to frighten blacks), the Klan quickly became a terrorist organization in service of the Democratic Party and white supremacy. Between 1869 and 1871 its goal was to destroy Congressional Reconstruction by murdering blacks -- and some whites -- who were either active in Republican politics or educating black children.

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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle
There are many conservative folk who abhor racism as much as everyone else. Why do they tolerate hatemongers and racists in their ranks?

There are racists in pretty much every group.

This is really about freedom of religion and not racial discrimination, though.

Sorry DS, but the Right doesn't get off so easily. You might find racists in any given group of people but you only find organised racism on the Right. The KKK weren't a group of bleeding heart liberals were they?

The Right has a long history of organising racism, of profiting from racism, and opposing every anti-racist measure just about everywhere in the West. It will take a lot more than a few glib remarks for people to forgive the Right its past.

Especially as elements on the Right continue to fan flames of racism with little or no attempts to rein them in coming from Right wing leaders. Silence is complicity.

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ORIGINAL: AdorkableAiley

It's not but he is the figure head, the man in charge so he is going to shoulder the blame. He knew this when he ran for office.


Ailey