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ORIGINAL: MalcolmNathaniel

Where does the crazy come in?

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

The only gun I still own is a Henry .30/30. I kept it over the Winchester .30-06 because I like shooting it more. I found that either was effective against deer at the ranges I hunt at so I kept the one I liked more.

Ammo for it is up to almost $1 per round so I don't go to the range as often as I used to. I might see if my cousin wants to part with one of his .22LR just for target shooting.

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I've never really seen the point for collapsing or folding stocks in civilian use but any sort of recoil dampening on a shotgun could be desirable. Although as you said I'm pretty sure I've seen a recoil dampening shotgun stock somewhere before.

A lot of people think the pistol grip makes it a better home defense gun.
I don't happen to be one of them, not enough control.
The recoil dampening is not new. It's the conversion that is new. It's currently patent pending.

I, myself, have never seen the point of a pistol grip on a shotty. The last time I fired one I nearly knocked my own teeth out. The market suggests that there is a large amount of people that like pistol grips on their Mossbergs. I think the initial market is for police; you can have one shotgun in your car that can quickly become another kind if you need to change your tactics. I am quite happy with my 97. Hell, it was designed by JMB himself. As much as I love my brother he ain't the patron saint of firearms.

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ORIGINAL: MasterCaneman
DomKen: Get a Lee Basic reloader. It's about 25 bucks and contains everything you need to bring the per-round cost back to around 10-25 cents. You can even use cast-lead bullets in it or even 00 buck if it's been sized (which happens when you load it anyway). A guy at my club uses that to make squib loads for indoor practice and pest control.

Looks like I'll need some more stuff that adds to the cost, they say you need to size the cartridge to make it safe in lever action rifles, but still looks like I could get everything for less than $100 which is pretty decent considering a box of ammo is running $90 last I checked.

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

Not a gun question, but a deer question. Can anyone explain the DEC's reasoning? Doe permits are still easily available but now you can't shoot a buck unless it has 3 points per side. Makes no sense to me. Although juniors (12 - 18) can take anything.

Oh and since there's a bear living in the back of my property, what are the odds that the guys who hunt here can drop it with the same thing they're using for deer. Bear weigh three times as much, don't they need a bigger gun?

I'd rather they left it alone then annoy the hell out of it.

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

Not a gun question, but a deer question. Can anyone explain the DEC's reasoning? Doe permits are still easily available but now you can't shoot a buck unless it has 3 points per side. Makes no sense to me. Although juniors (12 - 18) can take anything.

They're trying to manage the herd to produce more trophy bucks and keep the population under control.

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Oh and since there's a bear living in the back of my property, what are the odds that the guys who hunt here can drop it with the same thing they're using for deer. Bear weigh three times as much, don't they need a bigger gun?

As long as they don't shoot at its head and shoot it at a reasonable range a black bear should go down from any deer rifle. Bear skulls are notoriously tough so shooting it in the head with anything would be unwise.

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ORIGINAL: crazyml

I'm a country boy Athena, and only ever shoot for the pot.

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

Not a gun question, but a deer question. Can anyone explain the DEC's reasoning? Doe permits are still easily available but now you can't shoot a buck unless it has 3 points per side. Makes no sense to me. Although juniors (12 - 18) can take anything.

Oh and since there's a bear living in the back of my property, what are the odds that the guys who hunt here can drop it with the same thing they're using for deer. Bear weigh three times as much, don't they need a bigger gun?

I'd rather they left it alone then annoy the hell out of it.

Do you have a huge deer population?
That would be the only reason I can see for encouraging people to shoot deer.
In New York you just have black bear don't you?
Still it kind of depends on what they are hunting deer with.
A 30/30 or .243 can bring down a deer but a 30-06, also a popular deer round would be far more effective.

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ORIGINAL: MalcolmNathaniel

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

I've never really seen the point for collapsing or folding stocks in civilian use but any sort of recoil dampening on a shotgun could be desirable. Although as you said I'm pretty sure I've seen a recoil dampening shotgun stock somewhere before.

The recoil dampening is not new. It's the conversion that is new. It's currently patent pending.

I, myself, have never seen the point of a pistol grip on a shotty. The last time I fired one I nearly knocked my own teeth out. The market suggests that there is a large amount of people that like pistol grips on their Mossbergs. I think the initial market is for police; you can have one shotgun in your car that can quickly become another kind if you need to change your tactics. I am quite happy with my 97. Hell, it was designed by JMB himself. As much as I love my brother he ain't the patron saint of firearms.

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DomKen: Get a Lee Basic reloader. It's about 25 bucks and contains everything you need to bring the per-round cost back to around 10-25 cents. You can even use cast-lead bullets in it or even 00 buck if it's been sized (which happens when you load it anyway). A guy at my club uses that to make squib loads for indoor practice and pest control.

Looks like I'll need some more stuff that adds to the cost, they say you need to size the cartridge to make it safe in lever action rifles, but still looks like I could get everything for less than $100 which is pretty decent considering a box of ammo is running $90 last I checked.

I was thinking Lee Classic, and as long as you only use cases you fire through your own rifle you'll be okay. If not, a sizer's another fifteen bucks. Or spring for one of those hand presses. And where are you buying ammo? Even at the height of the drought, the most I've ever seen for 30-30 was thirty bucks a box. Besides, it's a great way to kill time and you can make up loads that cover the gamut of situations, from short-range indoor squibs on up.

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ORIGINAL: SWDesertDom


The favorite gun I own is Christine (named after the Steven King novel), a custom F-Open rifle, presently chambered in 6XC.

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: MasterCaneman
DomKen: Get a Lee Basic reloader. It's about 25 bucks and contains everything you need to bring the per-round cost back to around 10-25 cents. You can even use cast-lead bullets in it or even 00 buck if it's been sized (which happens when you load it anyway). A guy at my club uses that to make squib loads for indoor practice and pest control.

Looks like I'll need some more stuff that adds to the cost, they say you need to size the cartridge to make it safe in lever action rifles, but still looks like I could get everything for less than $100 which is pretty decent considering a box of ammo is running $90 last I checked.

I was thinking Lee Classic, and as long as you only use cases you fire through your own rifle you'll be okay. If not, a sizer's another fifteen bucks. Or spring for one of those hand presses. And where are you buying ammo? Even at the height of the drought, the most I've ever seen for 30-30 was thirty bucks a box. Besides, it's a great way to kill time and you can make up loads that cover the gamut of situations, from short-range indoor squibs on up.

That's what I looked up. The sizer is not a huge problem, I can get it from Lee. The cost I said included the kit, sizer, powder and bullets.

The gun store/range where I store my rifle is where I buy ammo. but even online .30-30 ammo is up to $1 a round
http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/browse/rifle-ammo-30-30-ammo.aspx?c=96&s=918

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ORIGINAL: KYsissy

Springfield M6 scout. .22/.410 over under. Perfect pack rifle, small light and its a tack driver.

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ORIGINAL: MasterCaneman

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ORIGINAL: KYsissy

Springfield M6 scout. .22/.410 over under. Perfect pack rifle, small light and its a tack driver.

I've always wanted one of those. Do you have the one with the squeezer-bar trigger or the conventional trigger with the pistol grip?