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Yachtie -> RE: The shutdown all the democrats fault... (10/2/2013 6:20:34 AM)
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ORIGINAL: joether
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ORIGINAL: Esinn
The government shut down is a fucking joke. So is anyone from either side who thinks it is a good or bad idea. The tax collectors, speech writers, spinsters, bullshiters, war mongers, drone operators and surveillance state remains in full effect. Meanwhile tourist spots, parks, museums and other things are shut down. Anyone making 100k + is typically fine. While tens of thousands of "civilians" suffer - less taxes, less purchases and action for your towns/neighborhoods. Congress has a 10% approval rating. No matter whose side you are on you know our government is a worthless pile of shit - 10%. Historically it has not been over 25% in the last 5-6 decades or longer.
The good news, hopefully the people forced to work without pay, or go home without pay. They will seriously consider their career path and learn how few fucks their government gives about them.
This my party is better, they are better, he said, they said, finger wagging diffusion of blame or responsibility - it gets old. Everyone knows it. Even presidents when they leave office typically have a 40% of less approval rating.
If you feel its not just a joke but a "...fucking joke." then you clearly do not understand what is wrong here. Further, you go on to show how little of an education you hold on the situation now affecting tens of millions of Americans. Finally, you show very little wisdom in understanding the impact this shutdown has on tens of millions of Americans, not to mention an equal share of individuals that are not US Citizens. Before you go shooting of your mouth, consider those 'non US Citizens' are often called....tourists....whom are spending money in this country. They could have spent their money else where, but they came here to spend in local area businesses.
Do you know how much $100 Billion in US Government spending buys in jobs every year? Since we are spending 32 units worth of $100 Billion each year. I'll give you a hint, its six digits big and well over the 1/2 billion mark. Most of that money for those jobs are not at the $144K/year level, but at much lower levels of pay (i.e. more bang for the buck). Now those people are not getting an income. They can not pay for food or gas much less many of their other bills. They will be doing less shopping which in turns forces those businesses that would have gotten money to cut down on hours and maybe a few lay offs. The unemployed number rises. You really do not understand the macro economics in effect right now in the country.
I recall a conservative guy I once knew. He wanted the government to stop paying so much on this one industry in America. You know the type, a real Tea Party psycho who thought he knew everything. Well, he knew about as much on the topic as most conservatives have read the whole ACA. Anyways, he got his wish. The industry got slammed. Unfortunately, his company that did ALOT of business unknown to this guy lost a lot of money. The prospect of breaking even or making more in profit was extremely in doubt. So he got laid off. Then he was bitching he was not getting enough from the government to help him with his unemployment. The irony was totally lost on that guy....
Do yourself a favor and do not be like that guy.
Soon enough it's all going to come home to roost. Almost every government job and outlay is either paid via taxes or deficit spending. The few that are not have some coverage under use fees, for instance national parks. Yes, many businesses are government's best contractors. Still, the source of their earnings is government which is to say, us. Clothing manufacturers for the military, for instance. Does it really matter that a lot of that is made in China?[;)] How about the Bradley? Or SNAP? All government.
The size of government has been growing which puts more pressure on the private sector and the USD. IRS agents for Obamacare implementation. Border security (has it been secured?). EPA, DOJ, ... Does every 3 letter require mentioning? For the idiot, yes. But name it. Cost of government is going up.
The myopic will argue, "So, we don't need the military, huh?" or some such shit as that. These are the trough supporters, those who say that if you need eggs you also need bread, wine and french tickler condoms. One thing requires acceding to everything else. Tomorrow it could be deemed a necessity, and therefore a right, to have government paid sessions at the manicurist under the rubric of self-esteem as mental health. Just slide it in under the ACA.
If 100 Billion in government spending buys so much good, then One Trillion should really lower the unemployment problem. Of course the private sector and USD would weather that just fine. [8|]
In one respect government does a masterful job better than anyone else, and that's squeezing private sector business out. Call it over-regulation, crony capitalism, tax manipulation, government as your business partner, the 1%, whatever you wish. It doesn't matter the fuck what it's called.
It's obvious to even the casual observer that a shut down has an impact on those effected. Oh, soon it will all be funded. The people will jump for joy. We'll get back to business as usual. Because we will it's quite right to blame the Republicans for slowing down getting there in the first place. It's all political posturing.
The underlying problems continue to be ignored.
Joe, I think it best to quote yourself here -
You really do not understand the macro economics in effect right now in the country.
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