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ORIGINAL: DomKen
Yes, it looks like the load was heavier than the systems could handle. I guess a lot more people wanted to sign up as soon as they could than even the Administration anticipated.

Or, as more likely, it simply doesn't work right.

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ORIGINAL: DomKen
Yes, it looks like the load was heavier than the systems could handle. I guess a lot more people wanted to sign up as soon as they could than even the Administration anticipated.

Or, as more likely, it simply doesn't work right.

Oh, come on, Phydeaux. You have to admit that the exchanges getting swamped was predictable. It's a huge development and has been in the news lately (for obvious reasons). I wouldn't go so far as Ken and say that all that many people wanted to sign up asap, but curiosity abounds.

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I'll wait till the exchange website is open and I'll post a follow up to see how much that family could save.

Any guesses?

Perhaps a lot. Like, a total savings.

If you don't spend it, it's saved till you do.

Yes, it looks like the load was heavier than the systems could handle. I guess a lot more people wanted to sign up as soon as they could than even the Administration anticipated.

Or, as more likely, it simply doesn't work right.

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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

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ORIGINAL: DomKen
Yes, it looks like the load was heavier than the systems could handle. I guess a lot more people wanted to sign up as soon as they could than even the Administration anticipated.

Or, as more likely, it simply doesn't work right.

Oh, come on, Phydeaux. You have to admit that the exchanges getting swamped was predictable. It's a huge development and has been in the news lately (for obvious reasons). I wouldn't go so far as Ken and say that all that many people wanted to sign up asap, but curiosity abounds.

Honestly, most of the people that obamacare needs to help (you know ... the uninsured) aren't going to hit the websites. When you're sleeping on the streets, getting in to find a computer to sign up for obamacare prbly ain't your first priority.

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Didn't you just admit to both having health issues and being uninsured? Why are you not taking the opportunity to get health insurance?

BTW 60% of the uninsured have full time jobs so it seems unlikely they're all homeless.

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

I'll wait till the exchange website is open and I'll post a follow up to see how much that family could save.

Any guesses?

Perhaps a lot. Like, a total savings.

If you don't spend it, it's saved till you do.

Yes, it looks like the load was heavier than the systems could handle. I guess a lot more people wanted to sign up as soon as they could than even the Administration anticipated.

Or, as more likely, it simply doesn't work right.

bullshit. I did web application programming for nearly a decade and getting a site to function under a heavy load is a tricky and expensive operation. The fact is the sign up period runs till Dec. 15 so building the system to handle the entire load on day 1 would leave it with a hugely expensive excess capacity the rest of the time. Within a day or two the sites will all be running just fine.

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

Using
http://www.ehealthinsurance.com/

A family of 4 (man 40, woman 38, boy 10 and girl 8 all nonsmokers and no college students) making $50k per year in zipcode 60640 (my home)
The cheapest plan is $273.39 per month with a $20,000 deductible and a 20% copay (clearly a so called catastrophic care plan).

I'll wait till the exchange website is open and I'll post a follow up to see how much that family could save.

Any guesses?

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ORIGINAL: RacerJim
Pro-Usurper obfuscation -- just like opining that the overload is due to a lot more people wanting to sign up for Obamacare as soon as they could than even the usurper's Administration anticipated.

Phydeaux is most likely correct -- the system is FUBAR, just like Obamacare.

BTW: The "Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act" (Obamacare) did in fact originate in the Senate -- Harry Reid's complete substitution for (rather than an amendment to) the "Service Members Home Ownership Tax Act of 2009" (which had passed the House by a unanimous vote) and, therefore, is in fact unconstitutional despite the SCOTUS ruling otherwise.

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ORIGINAL: DomKen
Using
http://www.ehealthinsurance.com/
A family of 4 (man 40, woman 38, boy 10 and girl 8 all nonsmokers and no college students) making $50k per year in zipcode 60640 (my home)
The cheapest plan is $273.39 per month with a $20,000 deductible and a 20% copay (clearly a so called catastrophic care plan).
I'll wait till the exchange website is open and I'll post a follow up to see how much that family could save.
Any guesses?

Using Covered California:
We looked at the plans: First, they won't let us have a plan above Silver because we make too much money.
For the two of us, the lowest level of coverage starts at $600 a month....with a $5000 ! deductible and a $60 copay for office visits, $120 for urgent care and $50 co-pay for prescriptions.
Then let's also talk about the reality that Himself and I have not had $5k worth of medical bills since we've been together, so we'd be paying $7200 for essentially no coverage and bad co-pays.
Not really what I consider affordable.

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ORIGINAL: RacerJim
Pro-Usurper obfuscation -- just like opining that the overload is due to a lot more people wanting to sign up for Obamacare as soon as they could than even the usurper's Administration anticipated.

Phydeaux is most likely correct -- the system is FUBAR, just like Obamacare.

BTW: The "Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act" (Obamacare) did in fact originate in the Senate -- Harry Reid's complete substitution for (rather than an amendment to) the "Service Members Home Ownership Tax Act of 2009" (which had passed the House by a unanimous vote) and, therefore, is in fact unconstitutional despite the SCOTUS ruling otherwise.

Wrong on every point.

The New York state server, not operated by the feds, crashed after reporting 2 million hits in the first 2 hours it was open. Almost 300 site entry hits a second is going to strain pretty much anything short of Google and Amazon.

There is a long history of the Senate replacing every words in a bill and it still being constitutional and the Roberts court agrees in this instance.

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Yeah, WoW didnt handle it fine first time out, ebay didnt handle it fine, nor did paypal nor many other sites, facebook and so on. You cannot load test to that level. And this software doesnt have considerable experience behind it yet.
It will get there, 1-3 months or so.

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail
Well, they will need to do what they need to do to sort out propagation delays, and linking delays and bandwidth, but they wont shoot for service levels like they will see at least thru the end of the year (and last minute January).

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ORIGINAL: RacerJim
Pro-Usurper obfuscation -- just like opining that the overload is due to a lot more people wanting to sign up for Obamacare as soon as they could than even the usurper's Administration anticipated.

Phydeaux is most likely correct -- the system is FUBAR, just like Obamacare.

BTW: The "Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act" (Obamacare) did in fact originate in the Senate -- Harry Reid's complete substitution for (rather than an amendment to) the "Service Members Home Ownership Tax Act of 2009" (which had passed the House by a unanimous vote) and, therefore, is in fact unconstitutional despite the SCOTUS ruling otherwise.

Wrong on every point.

The New York state server, not operated by the feds, crashed after reporting 2 million hits in the first 2 hours it was open. Almost 300 site entry hits a second is going to strain pretty much anything short of Google and Amazon.

There is a long history of the Senate replacing every words in a bill and it still being constitutional and the Roberts court agrees in this instance.

Oh really? Ebay handles it just fine. Paypal. So does Victoria Secret (now). World of Warcraft (a game, for crying out loud).
The NSA handles it just fine.

300 hits a second is only (roughly) 25 million people a day. And we both know that since each real visit will require many many hits, it means you're crashing at less than 2.5 million users.

World of warcraft has .. what 32 million users at any one time?

Edit: oh sorry. Your statisitics are even worse. 1 million hits an hour - representing probably 100,000 unique users.

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: RacerJim
Pro-Usurper obfuscation -- just like opining that the overload is due to a lot more people wanting to sign up for Obamacare as soon as they could than even the usurper's Administration anticipated.

Phydeaux is most likely correct -- the system is FUBAR, just like Obamacare.

BTW: The "Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act" (Obamacare) did in fact originate in the Senate -- Harry Reid's complete substitution for (rather than an amendment to) the "Service Members Home Ownership Tax Act of 2009" (which had passed the House by a unanimous vote) and, therefore, is in fact unconstitutional despite the SCOTUS ruling otherwise.

Wrong on every point.

The New York state server, not operated by the feds, crashed after reporting 2 million hits in the first 2 hours it was open. Almost 300 site entry hits a second is going to strain pretty much anything short of Google and Amazon.

There is a long history of the Senate replacing every words in a bill and it still being constitutional and the Roberts court agrees in this instance.

Oh really? Ebay handles it just fine. Paypal. So does Victoria Secret (now). World of Warcraft (a game, for crying out loud).
The NSA handles it just fine.

300 hits a second is only (roughly) 25 million people a day. And we both know that since each real visit will require many many hits, it means you're crashing at less than 2.5 million users.

World of warcraft has .. what 32 million users at any one time?

Edit: oh sorry. Your statisitics are even worse. 1 million hits an hour - representing probably 100,000 unique users.

Ebay and the rest use server farms often with multiple sites. I really doubt the exchanges use more than a few machines at a single site. There is no reason to expect that level of load throughout the 10 week sign up period, So if the sites had been overbuilt then when the cost came out cons would be bitching about all the money wasted.

WoW has at most somewhere in the high 5 low 6 figure range online at any time on dozens of servers. It has less than 8 million active accounts.
http://mmodata.blogspot.com/

Weren't you previously claiming to have worked in IT? How come you think a site can go from cold to 2 million site entries in 2 hours without hiccups? What would have been surprising is if there weren't problems.