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Maybe Florida will have some sort of justice - 9/26/2013 2:35:08 PM

Nosathro

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Marissa Alexander’s sentence of 20 years for a warning shot will get a new trial.

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/09/26/2685251/florida-court-grants-new-trial-to-woman-serving-20-years-for-firing-warning-shot/

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RE: Maybe Florida will have some sort of justice - 9/26/2013 2:40:05 PM

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Good news indeed.

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RE: Maybe Florida will have some sort of justice - 9/26/2013 4:24:42 PM

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How much time would she have got had she shot him in the head?

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RE: Maybe Florida will have some sort of justice - 9/26/2013 6:20:53 PM

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How much time would she have got had she shot him in the head?

Probably not a day which is what makes it such an egregious miscarriage.

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RE: Maybe Florida will have some sort of justice - 9/26/2013 6:25:02 PM

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"The disputed facts are difficult to parse."

Shouldn't be. Disputed facts should favor the defendant. That's why Zimmerman got off, and that should be why Alexander gets off.

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RE: Maybe Florida will have some sort of justice - 9/26/2013 6:42:33 PM

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Here are the details, known and disputed, in the matter of Marissa Alexander:

http://www.letstalkaboutit.info/2012/05/different-views-on-marissa-alexanders_11.html

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RE: Maybe Florida will have some sort of justice - 9/26/2013 7:09:54 PM

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From your link:

...*Marissa Alexander is a 31 year old mother of three who had just given birth to a premature child nine days before her arrest on charges of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon without intent to kill after discharging a legally owned firearm in the home jointly owned by her and her estranged husband at the time, Rico Gray. Rico Gray’s children were present in the apartment at the time.

...*Neither the defense attorney nor the prosecutors dispute that Marissa Alexander was a likely victim of domestic violence

...Rico Gray (In the deposition): “I was walking toward her because she was telling me to leave the whole time…I was cursing and all that…and she shot in the air one time…(later in deposition)…if my kids weren’t there I probably would have put my hands on her.”

...Chartrissia Anderson (former partner of Rico Gray) : “I’ve been hit in the mouth, pushed into walls, he’s run me into neighbor’s homes, he’s beaten me…outside to where I have been stripped of my clothing…The last time…he hit me in my mouth. I went into my sons room to call the police and he started to yank the cord out of the wall. Once he realized the call had went through, he ran into our kitchen…pulled out a fork…took the fork, stood in front of his son …and started stabbing himself…and told his son [the same youngest son that testified in Marissa Alexander’s case] to tell the police…that I [Chartrissia] had done it.”

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RE: Maybe Florida will have some sort of justice - 9/26/2013 11:44:41 PM

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From your link:

...*Marissa Alexander is a 31 year old mother of three who had just given birth to a premature child nine days before her arrest on charges of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon without intent to kill after discharging a legally owned firearm in the home jointly owned by her and her estranged husband at the time, Rico Gray. Rico Gray’s children were present in the apartment at the time.

...*Neither the defense attorney nor the prosecutors dispute that Marissa Alexander was a likely victim of domestic violence

...Rico Gray (In the deposition): “I was walking toward her because she was telling me to leave the whole time…I was cursing and all that…and she shot in the air one time…(later in deposition)…if my kids weren’t there I probably would have put my hands on her.”

...Chartrissia Anderson (former partner of Rico Gray) : “I’ve been hit in the mouth, pushed into walls, he’s run me into neighbor’s homes, he’s beaten me…outside to where I have been stripped of my clothing…The last time…he hit me in my mouth. I went into my sons room to call the police and he started to yank the cord out of the wall. Once he realized the call had went through, he ran into our kitchen…pulled out a fork…took the fork, stood in front of his son …and started stabbing himself…and told his son [the same youngest son that testified in Marissa Alexander’s case] to tell the police…that I [Chartrissia] had done it.”

I think it went against her that she went to her car for her gun, but I don't think she should have served over 90 days s and that would have been questionable.

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RE: Maybe Florida will have some sort of justice - 9/26/2013 11:52:59 PM

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If the gun had been in her house I would call it a slam dunk for her even if she shot him.

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RE: Maybe Florida will have some sort of justice - 9/27/2013 1:15:29 PM

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Yet in a separate case in Florida Tyrone Anthony Jackson got involved in a verbal altercation, left the area and returned with his gun. Jackson did wound the person he was arguing with and was acquitted of all charges under the Florida "Stand Your Ground" Law.

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RE: Maybe Florida will have some sort of justice - 9/27/2013 2:25:20 PM

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Yet in a separate case in Florida Tyrone Anthony Jackson got involved in a verbal altercation, left the area and returned with his gun. Jackson did wound the person he was arguing with and was acquitted of all charges under the Florida "Stand Your Ground" Law.

He claimed self defense. His car was found to have bullet holes in the body and windows. Police recovered numerous spent .40-caliber casings at the scene, but only one from the .45 that Jackson used to non-fatally wound Etti. It took the jury only three hours to acquit.

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RE: Maybe Florida will have some sort of justice - 9/27/2013 2:58:42 PM

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Yet in a separate case in Florida Tyrone Anthony Jackson got involved in a verbal altercation, left the area and returned with his gun. Jackson did wound the person he was arguing with and was acquitted of all charges under the Florida "Stand Your Ground" Law.

He claimed self defense. His car was found to have bullet holes in the body and windows. Police recovered numerous spent .40-caliber casings at the scene, but only one from the .45 that Jackson used to non-fatally wound Etti. It took the jury only three hours to acquit.

K.

You know there's quite a bit of difference between K's version of events and N's. One might think deliberate deception to be involved to try to gin up antipathy to Florida's SYG law.

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RE: Maybe Florida will have some sort of justice - 9/27/2013 4:39:25 PM

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Why am I not surprised his version was a little off

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RE: Maybe Florida will have some sort of justice - 9/27/2013 4:41:03 PM

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Yet in a separate case in Florida Tyrone Anthony Jackson got involved in a verbal altercation, left the area and returned with his gun. Jackson did wound the person he was arguing with and was acquitted of all charges under the Florida "Stand Your Ground" Law.

He claimed self defense. His car was found to have bullet holes in the body and windows. Police recovered numerous spent .40-caliber casings at the scene, but only one from the .45 that Jackson used to non-fatally wound Etti. It took the jury only three hours to acquit.

K.

You know there's quite a bit of difference between K's version of events and N's. One might think deliberate deception to be involved to try to gin up antipathy to Florida's SYG law.

You think?

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RE: Maybe Florida will have some sort of justice - 9/28/2013 10:43:14 AM

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Yet in a separate case in Florida Tyrone Anthony Jackson got involved in a verbal altercation, left the area and returned with his gun. Jackson did wound the person he was arguing with and was acquitted of all charges under the Florida "Stand Your Ground" Law.

He claimed self defense. His car was found to have bullet holes in the body and windows. Police recovered numerous spent .40-caliber casings at the scene, but only one from the .45 that Jackson used to non-fatally wound Etti. It took the jury only three hours to acquit.

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RE: Maybe Florida will have some sort of justice - 9/28/2013 1:37:47 PM

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Translation.

"I got caught posting bullshit"

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RE: Maybe Florida will have some sort of justice - 9/28/2013 5:38:18 PM

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Yet in a separate case in Florida Tyrone Anthony Jackson got involved in a verbal altercation, left the area and returned with his gun. Jackson did wound the person he was arguing with and was acquitted of all charges under the Florida "Stand Your Ground" Law.

He claimed self defense. His car was found to have bullet holes in the body and windows. Police recovered numerous spent .40-caliber casings at the scene, but only one from the .45 that Jackson used to non-fatally wound Etti. It took the jury only three hours to acquit.

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Oh waite...what was I thinking...county was paying for lunch

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RE: Maybe Florida will have some sort of justice - 9/28/2013 5:39:59 PM

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Translation.

"I got caught posting bullshit"

"Massaging the evidence" is at least a half click short of "posting bullshit"

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RE: Maybe Florida will have some sort of justice - 9/28/2013 6:36:32 PM

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"Massaging the evidence"......................."

I hope there was a 'happy ending'

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