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Hillwilliam -> Republicans ban the sale of an American made car (8/22/2013 3:56:31 PM)

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/nightline-fix-abc-news/why-texas-bans-sale-tesla-cars-140842349.html

More republican states want to join.

I thought Republicans were supposed to be supportive of American jobs and industry.




ThatDaveGuy69 -> RE: Republicans ban the sale of an American made car (8/22/2013 4:05:49 PM)

A minimal information article if ever there was one.
So TX has a law that requires certain products (cars) be sold through a franchise (dealer)? Seems a bit archaic but they didn't create the law just for Tesla. I'm sure the Good Old Boy network had a real good reason for this law back when they passed it. And I'm sure the Texass Automobile Dealers Assiociation had nothing at all to do with it. /sarcasm

Were it my decision at Tesla, I would skip right on by Texassistan and sell my cars where they were wanted. I hope they bury the competition.




Real0ne -> RE: Republicans ban the sale of an American made car (8/22/2013 4:55:32 PM)

and fuck up the good ole boy "freedom" system at the core of this country?

“This happens all the time,” said Bill Wolters, the president of the Texas Automobile Dealers Association. “Someone wants an exception to the franchise laws. If we made an exception for everybody that showed up in the legislature, before long the integrity of the entire franchise system is in peril.”




Real0ne -> RE: Republicans ban the sale of an American made car (8/22/2013 4:59:24 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ThatDaveGuy69

A minimal information article if ever there was one.
So TX has a law that requires certain products (cars) be sold through a franchise (dealer)? Seems a bit archaic but they didn't create the law just for Tesla. I'm sure the Good Old Boy network had a real good reason for this law back when they passed it. And I'm sure the Texass Automobile Dealers Assiociation had nothing at all to do with it. /sarcasm

Were it my decision at Tesla, I would skip right on by Texassistan and sell my cars where they were wanted. I hope they bury the competition.




yeh the dealer slips the state the MCO that they issue the certificate from, hence they give themselves legal "interest" in your car :)






Kirata -> RE: Republicans ban the sale of an American made car (8/22/2013 6:29:15 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/nightline-fix-abc-news/why-texas-bans-sale-tesla-cars-140842349.html

More republican states want to join.

That is the stupidest thing I've read in ...oh, an hour or so. It never seems to stop.

K.




njlauren -> RE: Republicans ban the sale of an American made car (8/22/2013 11:26:26 PM)

Well, it is Texas, a state where the GOP wanted to ban school curricula based on critical thinking.....

And just think if Tesla is successful all the people who would suffer....the jerk in the polyester suit telling you the car in question is rare, so of course you have to pay full sticker price, the finance guy telling you you only qualify for the 12% rate when at a bank it would be 6.5%, the sales manager who when you try to negotiate, continually does annoying things like drop the price by 20 bucks, and then, of course, the service department..

And what the heck would cable tv do without all the advertising from the morons in 10 gallon hats telling y'all to come on down to Honest Al's....

And what would the strip clubs and hookers do if the Texas dealers association no longer had their convention, where all those God fearing texans couldn't have themselves a bit of good, dirty, fun.....

Musk is a pretty determined dude and those clowns better watch out, he could end up taking the law in question to the Supreme Court and have it declared an illegal restraint of trade, requiring that cars be sold through dealer franchises may not pass muster if Texas cannot show a valid reason for the law (and there isn't one, there is no reason you couldn't sell cars through a store, dealers provide very little value, other than as a middle man to jack up prices, and warranty work could just as easily be done by certified third party repair centers). I personally would love to see car dealerships go the way of the Dodo, for all the claims of being community staples and such, they are basically the same old crap with a fresh coat of paint, their basic deal is getting you to pay more for a car than you should, by posting ridiculous sticker prices, where an automatic transmission is a 1500 dollar option (even on cars that don't offer a manual!) and air conditioning (that it is almost impossible to buy a car without), and hoping you will fall for that being the 'real ' price, then make you bargain and so forth. At a store the price would be there, and sales people would not be on commission, so you would know what you were getting.

On a side note, I got to drive a Tesla about a year ago, the roadster, it is freakishly fast, if i had the money I would buy one. More importantly, what Tesla is doing with batteries is going to become more mainstream, last I heard they had a prototype of a battery that could charge pretty quickly and had a range longer than the current model.....no details, so it could be smoke, but I wouldn't bet against Tesla either. The rest of the indusry is jerking around with electric cars, if they were serious they would be giving research grants to scientists to develop better batteries, rather than buying lithium batteries from the Chinese that are of dubious quality and are ancient technology. If musk had half a brain he would be looking at non hydrogen based fuel cells, using aluminum or lithium with a carbolic acid based electrolyte.




thompsonx -> RE: Republicans ban the sale of an American made car (8/23/2013 5:06:19 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/nightline-fix-abc-news/why-texas-bans-sale-tesla-cars-140842349.html

More republican states want to join.

I thought Republicans were supposed to be supportive of American jobs and industry.

It appears that hey are supportive of the automobile dealers industry but they ain't made in texas so I am gonna buy a honda.[8|]




LookieNoNookie -> RE: Republicans ban the sale of an American made car (8/24/2013 3:24:39 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: ThatDaveGuy69

A minimal information article if ever there was one.
So TX has a law that requires certain products (cars) be sold through a franchise (dealer)? Seems a bit archaic but they didn't create the law just for Tesla. I'm sure the Good Old Boy network had a real good reason for this law back when they passed it. And I'm sure the Texass Automobile Dealers Assiociation had nothing at all to do with it. /sarcasm

Were it my decision at Tesla, I would skip right on by Texassistan and sell my cars where they were wanted. I hope they bury the competition.



Nice :)




Moonhead -> RE: Republicans ban the sale of an American made car (8/25/2013 5:15:02 AM)

FR:
When were the Republicans supporting American industry?
Was that back when they spent the '80s outsourcing manufacturing jobs to third world countries, or more recently when they shifted all of the IT call centres to India and South Africa?




DomKen -> RE: Republicans ban the sale of an American made car (8/25/2013 6:17:10 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Moonhead

FR:
When were the Republicans supporting American industry?
Was that back when they spent the '80s outsourcing manufacturing jobs to third world countries, or more recently when they shifted all of the IT call centres to India and South Africa?

Not just the call centers. Most mass market software is now written mostly in India and Pakistan there are shops there that produce, very bad, code for $8 a man hour.




Hillwilliam -> RE: Republicans ban the sale of an American made car (8/25/2013 6:48:54 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Moonhead

FR:
When were the Republicans supporting American industry?

In reality, they aren't but they still have a large portion of the American public convinced that they do.




Moonhead -> RE: Republicans ban the sale of an American made car (8/25/2013 8:08:19 AM)

If idiots are stupid enough to believe that, then they deserve whatever the Republicans do to them, frankly.




RacerJim -> RE: Republicans ban the sale of an American made car (8/25/2013 8:28:56 AM)

Anyone stupid enough to buy a $60,000 car that doesn't come with a free warranty is an idiot.




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