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RE: Fort Hood and the rarity of military executions - 8/4/2013 1:49:28 PM   
Wendel27


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RE: Fort Hood and the rarity of military executions - 8/4/2013 2:06:18 PM   
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By his own statement, he violated the Geneva Convention, he claims to be an enemy combatant and fired on troops in a uniform that he had no allegiance to.




sounds like he is a prisoner of war to me

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RE: Fort Hood and the rarity of military executions - 8/4/2013 2:06:39 PM   
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he should have been shot on site.


If they had guns he would have been.

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He was shot on site.
His injuries have left him paralyzed from the waist down and he is in a wheelchair.


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RE: Fort Hood and the rarity of military executions - 8/4/2013 2:07:45 PM   
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If he's to be executed it should be done quietly, with dignity [for the executed and executioner] and with a minimum of fuss. Anything else and you play straight into the hands of him and those that think like him.



do we execute prisoners of war in america now too?

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RE: Fort Hood and the rarity of military executions - 8/4/2013 2:09:59 PM   
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RE: Fort Hood and the rarity of military executions - 8/4/2013 2:28:16 PM   
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He was shot on site.
His injuries have left him paralyzed from the waist down and he is in a wheelchair.


Oh great, their aim is getting as bad as the cops'. (like that guy with the knife, 41 rounds ! waste of good ammo)

T^T

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RE: Fort Hood and the rarity of military executions - 8/4/2013 2:33:32 PM   
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he should have been shot on site.


If they had guns he would have been.

T^T


He was shot on site.
His injuries have left him paralyzed from the waist down and he is in a wheelchair.




Then who ever shot him was a piss poor shot.

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RE: Fort Hood and the rarity of military executions - 8/4/2013 3:55:47 PM   
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RE: Fort Hood and the rarity of military executions - 8/4/2013 4:06:20 PM   
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If he's to be executed it should be done quietly, with dignity [for the executed and executioner] and with a minimum of fuss. Anything else and you play straight into the hands of him and those that think like him.



do we execute prisoners of war in america now too?

By wearing a U S uniform he gave up any rights as a POW the only "right" he had was to not be tortured.

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RE: Fort Hood and the rarity of military executions - 8/4/2013 5:01:58 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Wendel27

If he's to be executed it should be done quietly, with dignity [for the executed and executioner] and with a minimum of fuss. Anything else and you play straight into the hands of him and those that think like him.



do we execute prisoners of war in america now too?

By wearing a U S uniform he gave up any rights as a POW the only "right" he had was to not be tortured.



I posted the appropriate US military regs, which are pretty much word for word what the Geneva conventions state.

Basically any enemy combatant in the uniform of a country other than his own, that engages in combat activity designed to do property damage or injure personnel are not entitled to the protections of the Geneva conventions and are not considered prisoners of war.

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RE: Fort Hood and the rarity of military executions - 8/4/2013 6:45:58 PM   
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If he's to be executed it should be done quietly, with dignity [for the executed and executioner] and with a minimum of fuss. Anything else and you play straight into the hands of him and those that think like him.

it's not Constitutional but he should be crucified at the front gate of Ft Hood

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RE: Fort Hood and the rarity of military executions - 8/4/2013 6:57:05 PM   
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If he's to be executed it should be done quietly, with dignity [for the executed and executioner] and with a minimum of fuss. Anything else and you play straight into the hands of him and those that think like him.

it's not Constitutional but he should be crucified at the front gate of Ft Hood



I prefer gut shot, him screaming in pain and it being put out on a webcast so every terrorist on the planet can see what they are going to get.

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RE: Fort Hood and the rarity of military executions - 8/4/2013 7:52:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Wendel27

If he's to be executed it should be done quietly, with dignity [for the executed and executioner] and with a minimum of fuss. Anything else and you play straight into the hands of him and those that think like him.

it's not Constitutional but he should be crucified at the front gate of Ft Hood



I prefer gut shot, him screaming in pain and it being put out on a webcast so every terrorist on the planet can see what they are going to get.

While fitting there is still that Constitution thing.
Fill the casket with bacon grease.

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RE: Fort Hood and the rarity of military executions - 8/4/2013 8:59:50 PM   
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a). Where is holding people accountable. I am so tired of political correctness. The man was bottom 25%. Ft Hood was told he was getting their worst. Danger signs were overlooked. People should be fined, fired, and jailed. Yet months go on and - nothing.

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RE: Fort Hood and the rarity of military executions - 8/4/2013 9:28:02 PM   
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and how can they be held accountable when they have over time placed themselves in a position its nearly impossible for anyone to sue? *and win*

and the really funny part is that so many people actually are so totally lost and misguided they actually believe they will police themselves under the 3 branches of government theory. What a fucking maroon!

Cops for instance, unless there is actually no way to get out of it, the chief police always supports his dog. Yeh accountability......not liely to happen in my lifetime, the only people that are held accountable are non government.

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RE: Fort Hood and the rarity of military executions - 8/4/2013 9:41:47 PM   
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I posted the appropriate US military regs, which are pretty much word for word what the Geneva conventions state.

Basically any enemy combatant in the uniform of a country other than his own, that engages in combat activity designed to do property damage or injure personnel are not entitled to the protections of the Geneva conventions and are not considered prisoners of war.



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RE: Fort Hood and the rarity of military executions - 8/5/2013 12:15:48 PM   
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The thing that pisses me off about this whole thing
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a). Where is holding people accountable. I am so tired of political correctness. The man was bottom 25%. Ft Hood was told he was getting their worst. Danger signs were overlooked. People should be fined, fired, and jailed. Yet months go on and - nothing.



I agree!


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RE: Fort Hood and the rarity of military executions - 8/5/2013 12:49:18 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

The thing that pisses me off about this whole thing
is

a). Where is holding people accountable. I am so tired of political correctness. The man was bottom 25%. Ft Hood was told he was getting their worst. Danger signs were overlooked. People should be fined, fired, and jailed. Yet months go on and - nothing.



I agree!




Yes they knew he was in contact with an Al Qaeda leader, at the very least he should have been relieved of duty and a full investigation started. However, no one could have predicted his actions at Fort Hood, unless the US military has a "pre-crime" unit I am not aware of.

Now, since he did what he did, and considering the his statements at the time and sense, I am wondering why they are even holding a trial? He admitted it, claims to be a soldier in a foreign army, and therefore he should be shot and thrown in a land fill.

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RE: Fort Hood and the rarity of military executions - 8/5/2013 3:20:01 PM   
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................. at the very least he should have been relieved of duty and a full investigation started.


He had poor performance evaluations for a long time. Because they had slots to fill, he was kept on. Where IS the accountability, where is the concern for troops Hassan was supposed to be treating??

It would have been better had he been taken out on site.

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RE: Fort Hood and the rarity of military executions - 8/5/2013 3:26:21 PM   
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