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mnottertail -> RE: Obamanoimcs...update (7/18/2013 11:57:03 AM)


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Well, what is the standard nutsuck. reasoning? Because it is clear that shipping jobs overseas over the past 30 and more years has had some minor impact on this, since our business cycles are now confined not to a booming economy but to housing bubbles and the like.



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Oh yes thats rich. The huge decrease since 2008 is caused by 30 years worth of shipping jobs overseas. It couldn't possibly be because of our policies now.



Have our policies changed? How do you know that I did not include now, is it because of your advanced discipline? Cuz you can laugh like woody woodpecker and slobber like cujo, but you still ain't in the adult end of the conversation.

And if you held an ability to comprehend English at say a third grade level, I never stated that was THEE cause as you strawman it to be, but a cause.

No, policy today is fucking us still:

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/07/18/federal-reserve-chief-ben-bernanke-tells-congress-youre-making-weak-economy-worse/

But that's not the all of it.





DesideriScuri -> RE: Obamanoimcs...update (7/18/2013 8:56:28 PM)

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Austerity and sequester cuts are hurting the poor and middle class? Um, that assumes that the poor and middle class should be relying on government for sustenance. I would argue that isn't true in most cases (see? that allows for the disabled, elderly, etc. that are incapable of relying on themselves and need - and should be able - to rely on government).

The government provides services to the poor and middle classes, as well as the upper classes, that it is impossible or impractical to provide by private business and those are being affected by the sequestration. For instance about 30,000 public school teaching and staff positions around the nation have been cut due to the sequester. Police and fire personnel are also being cut around the country due to it. Until it inconvenienced some congresscritters the FAA was going to have to furlough air traffic controllers which would have drastically slowed airport operations around the nation.

Like I said. Transfer payments (to the States to distribute to pay for education, fire/police protection, etc.). That is what is getting cut because that is what is going to cause the most discomfort and gin up the most support. That is exactly why those things are being cut. It's not about cutting waste. It's about making cuts to get support for more spending, etc.

The sequester didn't give options it was a specific percentage cut from all affected line items.

Care to show proof that teachers, fire and police forces were required to be specifically impacted?

It was across the board cuts. That means every single program affected had to be cut.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sequester_(2013)


So, no. There is nothing that says that teachers, or fire/police have to be cut. Remember, those are not Federal employees. They are State/Local employees.




mnottertail -> RE: Obamanoimcs...update (7/19/2013 6:03:00 AM)

States and locals are cutting as well, block grants, piks and so on are being cut by the fed.




DesideriScuri -> RE: Obamanoimcs...update (7/19/2013 7:21:11 AM)

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States and locals are cutting as well, block grants, piks and so on are being cut by the fed.


I know that. Yet, why is it that teachers, fire and police are where the cuts are being made? Because that's where it's going to cause the most discomfort, not because that's the only place cuts can be made. That was my point.

We waste so much taxpayer money through out all levels of government that the cuts could have been made with significantly less impact. Government has no incentive to do that, though. Those cuts do not help it grow and gain power.




mnottertail -> RE: Obamanoimcs...update (7/19/2013 7:28:13 AM)

Yeah, you're preaching to the choir. It is a PR move. They are avoiding the obvious answers. Well, just how much defense can we afford, and what can we shitcan in there without striking off rank and file troops from the deal? And so on.




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