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RE: Just what is the Mainstream media...and why ? - 7/17/2013 3:45:03 AM   
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Holy crap! CNN (Owned by Time Warner), Fox (Owned by Murdoch) and (P)MSNBC (Owned by NBC/GE) all have "public airwaves" concerns.

Please. PLEASE. PLEASE try to understand that while I didn't cover every little aspect, the plain truth is that ALL broadcast media - be they on "public airwaves" or cable or Sirius - have entities that do fall under the auspices of the FCC and while you chose to believe that government can never be nefarious, I know better. I've had personal experience with the shitty end of the stick.



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It is even possible to say that all media is mainstream media. Why ? Because none will ever again engage in what used to be called...investigative reporting at least as it applies to political power.

For example. some will tell you the mainstream media is complicit in promulgating certain lies. The unemployment rate is twice what is reported...for obvious political reasons. The CPI is twice what is reported for govt. money-saving and monetary propaganda reasons.

I have actually come to cheer today's opposition to this admin. as much as I did the last. Why ? Because no matter who is elected from now on, there will be no change unless that change is...things (unemployment, inflation, govt. cuts here, increases elsewhere) getting even worse. These aspects of society can and will get worse and yet will not be reported and the public will only offer pip squeaks.

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RE: Just what is the Mainstream media...and why ? - 7/17/2013 4:43:52 AM   
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Call me an optimist but I like to think that some day, the revolving door of professional political idiots will be stopped and I think it will be stopped by someone in the fourth estate.

To be sure, they'll need some sort of military support; even if it's only vocal but I think some day, some reporter will "nail" a story, dot all their "I"s and cross all their "T"s and people will wake up and smell what Big Brother's been cooking.



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RE: Just what is the Mainstream media...and why ? - 7/17/2013 5:29:58 AM   
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Call me an optimist but I like to think that some day, the revolving door of professional political idiots will be stopped and I think it will be stopped by someone in the fourth estate.

To be sure, they'll need some sort of military support; even if it's only vocal but I think some day, some reporter will "nail" a story, dot all their "I"s and cross all their "T"s and people will wake up and smell what Big Brother's been cooking.



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I hope you are right and for the young as I won't be around but...I am not as hopeful as you are. The idea of the military supporting some truth teller, if that is what you are getting at, for me...is a bit of a very optomistic stretch.

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RE: Just what is the Mainstream media...and why ? - 7/17/2013 5:34:31 AM   
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Well I guess then that by both the replies and the sparseness of them, means that this blog believe there is no longer a MSM and they are almost all under the thumb of the profiteers who profit by the partisanship and lies.
Is it that we just pick a side and maybe we can pretend...that is mainstream ?
Well I am about ready to agree. All there is now is mainstream partisans.


I think what is generally referred to as the MSM, are the television news outlets (including their websites); MSNBC, CNN, Fox News Channel, Fox, ABC, CBS, NBC, etc. Some may also include newspapers, too. I think "mainstream" has to do with where the majority prefer to get their "news." While that has changed greatly since the 90's (internet), there are still many news outlets that operate both as MSM (as defined in this post) and as an "alternative" source of news.

With so many options available, I think the MSM category is more a reference to the former traditional news sources, rather than simply the largest or the most popular.

I think you are correct DS. Any so-called MSM, is I think...a thing of the past. Maybe that's a good thing but yet the effects of which...remain to be seen.

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RE: Just what is the Mainstream media...and why ? - 7/17/2013 5:34:35 AM   
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I asked you this on one other thread; have you ever read M. William Cooper?

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RE: Just what is the Mainstream media...and why ? - 7/17/2013 6:25:47 AM   
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I asked you this on one other thread; have you ever read M. William Cooper?

Are you speaking to me ? I do not recall but no I have not.

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RE: Just what is the Mainstream media...and why ? - 7/17/2013 11:14:01 AM   
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I asked you this on one other thread; have you ever read M. William Cooper?

Are you speaking to me ? I do not recall but no I have not.


*puts on his tinfoil hat* I won't type the name of the book on the internet but a search of that name should bring up two books I'm aware of that you may enjoy. Pay cash for the book. GO to a bookstore to buy it. Do NOT order it from one of the dotcoms.



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RE: Just what is the Mainstream media...and why ? - 7/18/2013 7:02:14 PM   
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The best comment on contemporary news media that I've come across in a while:



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RE: Just what is the Mainstream media...and why ? - 7/18/2013 7:10:22 PM   
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I don't see where that would help anyone other than democratic shit-eaters (they need something to wash the shit down with) but, more to the point; to say that one news outlet is biased and think that others aren't is naiveté in the extreme.

While they all put on a good show, the truth is they won't dare go so far as to piss off their masters and, let's face it; it's not in their best interest to do so.

Funny how PPLs have a problem with "big business" but froth at the mouth with every little tidbit they can regurgitate from (P)MSNBC and CNN. I think I remember seeing those corporations filing for bankruptcy somewhere ... Maybe not.

Hypocrisy, I have named you and your name is: "Democratic National Party and your PPL followers".



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RE: Just what is the Mainstream media...and why ? - 7/18/2013 7:19:30 PM   
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It was a joke, Michael.

You know: Just like your new hoodie-and-Skittles photo.

I'm actually starting to worry about you.

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RE: Just what is the Mainstream media...and why ? - 7/18/2013 7:20:21 PM   
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you are way to kind DC

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RE: Just what is the Mainstream media...and why ? - 7/18/2013 7:23:46 PM   
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Nah. There's no worry. You chose to "attack" first; something about my being "that far gone" or something? Stowe your passive-aggressive attacks and let's stay on point.

I'll repeat: The point of my last post was hypocrisy/duality of PPLs that have their heads so far up their ass that they believe FOX is slanted but CNN and their ilk are reasonable and neutral.

Styx had a song that was perfect for this topic. It was called "Fooling Yourself (The Angry Young Man)"



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RE: Just what is the Mainstream media...and why ? - 7/18/2013 10:59:29 PM   
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MSM, to me, means generally recognized media sources... radio, television, newspapers and magazines.

I personally do not think of any such source as credible. If I want to see something even remotely credible I watch foreign news. Oft-times between local news here (the small stations do pretty good actually) and BBC I can get enough of a sense of things to feel roughly where the truth lies.

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