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Snowden gets shot.... - 7/1/2013 7:17:11 PM

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....down by Equator...

"Rafael Correa not considering Snowden asylum: 'we helped him by mistake'

Ecuador's president reveals travel pass was granted 'without authorization' and says whistleblower is now Russia's problem"

Guess Joe`s little chit-chat with Correa worked.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jul/02/ecuador-rafael-correa-snowden-mistake

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RE: Snowden gets shot.... - 7/1/2013 8:08:32 PM

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I see that he's asking for asylum in Russia:

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"If he wants to go somewhere and somebody will host him — no problem," Putin said at a news conference. "If he wants to stay here, there is one condition: He must stop his work aimed at harming our American partners."

Putin acknowledged the oddity of insisting on protection of U.S. secrets, saying he was sincere about muzzling Snowden "no matter how strange it may sound on my lips." Putin added, though, that Snowden appears to have no intention of stopping his leaks, "so he must choose for himself a country to stay in and move there."

There has been widespread speculation that any secret data Snowden is carrying has already been compromised by Chinese and Russian intelligence during his stays in Hong Kong and Moscow.

Or maybe he'll end up in Venezuela:

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Igor Korotchenko, editor in chief of the monthly National Defense journal, said Putin was, in effect, offering a peace deal to the United States.

"Putin publicly pledged that if Snowden stays in Russia, the Kremlin will do its best to prevent any public exposures in the Russian mass media of the CIA's and NSA's secret activities," Korotchenko said. "Washington should see this as a fair deal, a much better bargain than if Snowden goes on to Venezuela and continues to expose U.S. special services' operations."

Russia has been hosting a meeting of the world's major gas-exporting countries. Among those attending was Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro. There has been speculation that Snowden might fly to Caracas with Maduro to evade being arrested in transit.

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RE: Snowden gets shot.... - 7/1/2013 8:30:31 PM

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He won`t stay in Russia.

It sucks there and if he thought we were big-brotherish,he`s in for some major bumming out. Pussyriot has more cred and balls then that soft handed fool.

And in Venezuela, we`ll get him.It`s no Cuba security wise.

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RE: Snowden gets shot.... - 7/1/2013 8:41:14 PM

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The whiney little narcissist is finding out finding asylum is hell and he may as well get used to it because that is where he will be living the rest of his life one way or another.

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RE: Snowden gets shot.... - 7/1/2013 8:42:28 PM

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The whiney little narcissist is finding out finding asylum is hell and he may as well get used to it because that is where he will be living the rest of his life one way or another.

Butch

Don`t sugar coat it Butch...

Something tells me his dad is real pissed at him.

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RE: Snowden gets shot.... - 7/1/2013 8:44:01 PM

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I know I'm getting to be a softy in my old age.

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RE: Snowden gets shot.... - 7/1/2013 9:02:03 PM

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Something tells me his dad is real pissed at him.

I really do feel sorry for his dad...imagine how he feels walking around his town knowing at least many people he sees think his son a traitor. Must be hell.

You can tell he is not pleased with his son's decision to rat out his country then leave for China. He wants him to come back and face the consequences. He could then at least be proud that his son had the balls to stand up and defend his actions.

Butch

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RE: Snowden gets shot.... - 7/1/2013 9:27:27 PM

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It`s my understanding that his dad is trying to arrange such a surrender with conditions.

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RE: Snowden gets shot.... - 7/1/2013 9:34:55 PM

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the real question is when are the "people" going to create a place of sanction for those who blow the whistle on those who are stealing our rights by degree and are untouchable through the courts?

These hero whistleblowers are rewarded by being forced into isolation when they should be provided with caviar dancing girls and servants for their exemplary service to the common people.

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RE: Snowden gets shot.... - 7/1/2013 9:37:46 PM

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Putin to Offer Snowden Asylum, but With a Catch

On Sunday night, Edward Snowden asked for political asylum in Russia, and in a matter of hours President Vladimir Putin agreed to grant it. But there was just one catch: the NSA whistle-blower had to hang up his whistle. “If he wants to stay here, there is one precondition,” Putin said on Monday, a few hours before Snowden’s asylum request was made public. “He has to stop doing work that is aimed at harming our American partners.”

In other words, no more leaks. Whatever secrets Snowden has left to expose would have to be locked away (except maybe for a private Kremlin showing) and the stream of revelations he has got from his work for U.S. intelligence agencies would have to stop. On Putin’s part, this proposal is a clever bit of brinkmanship, but it will hardly please everyone — or anyone — involved.

http://world.time.com/2013/07/01/putin-to-offer-snowden-asylum-but-with-a-catch/#ixzz2XrMqYOTY

Will he accept? Seems like he may have no other choice.

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RE: Snowden gets shot.... - 7/1/2013 9:38:59 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: kdsub

quote:

Something tells me his dad is real pissed at him.

I really do feel sorry for his dad...imagine how he feels walking around his town knowing at least many people he sees think his son a traitor. Must be hell.

You can tell he is not pleased with his son's decision to rat out his country then leave for China. He wants him to come back and face the consequences. He could then at least be proud that his son had the balls to stand up and defend his actions.

Butch

yeh the crime of informing the people that their honest joe government is fucking them at every turn.

and how did that hurt this country? It doesnt.

Fuck clinton sold the chinese nuke plans, and dubya put them on their web site for free!

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RE: Snowden gets shot.... - 7/1/2013 9:40:38 PM

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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Putin to Offer Snowden Asylum, but With a Catch

On Sunday night, Edward Snowden asked for political asylum in Russia, and in a matter of hours President Vladimir Putin agreed to grant it. But there was just one catch: the NSA whistle-blower had to hang up his whistle. “If he wants to stay here, there is one precondition,” Putin said on Monday, a few hours before Snowden’s asylum request was made public. “He has to stop doing work that is aimed at harming our American partners.”

In other words, no more leaks. Whatever secrets Snowden has left to expose would have to be locked away (except maybe for a private Kremlin showing) and the stream of revelations he has got from his work for U.S. intelligence agencies would have to stop. On Putin’s part, this proposal is a clever bit of brinkmanship, but it will hardly please everyone — or anyone — involved.

http://world.time.com/2013/07/01/putin-to-offer-snowden-asylum-but-with-a-catch/#ixzz2XrMqYOTY

Will he accept? Seems like he may have no other choice.

yep all in one big happy family we is

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RE: Snowden gets shot.... - 7/2/2013 12:48:28 AM

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So you guys feel Snowden is a traitor or hero?

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RE: Snowden gets shot.... - 7/2/2013 1:02:45 AM

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I do not know what Snowden is, except that he is a spy. There is always cloak and dagger going on in the spy business. No outsider can possibly know what is cloaked in these spy cases. Maybe Snowden is acting on behalf of the NSA, or on behalf of a party X. Maybe in some CIA vault is a medal for him in secret being one of the USA's great hero's.

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RE: Snowden gets shot.... - 7/2/2013 1:04:51 AM

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So you guys feel Snowden is a traitor or hero?

We don't know the full facts, and probably never will, so I don't feel qualified to judge.

I will fall back on my old faithful of "one man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist"

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RE: Snowden gets shot.... - 7/2/2013 1:44:17 AM

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Why the fuck Ecuador in the first place ? Russia is not as bad as y'all think really. Plus he has a whole wide world, but for a few exceptions.

Youi know the EU is pissed at the US now over this shit.. They are not happy that the US knows of their moves in negotiations and shit, they do not like it. Alot of US citizens agree. The only ones who want Snowden in Gitmo are the US and her supporters of the police state. The 1984ers that is.

Well you traitors, eventually O'brian is going to take your Woman to room 101. And then you.

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RE: Snowden gets shot.... - 7/2/2013 2:12:34 AM

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So you guys feel Snowden is a traitor or hero?

I think he is someone's patsy.

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RE: Snowden gets shot.... - 7/2/2013 2:13:36 AM

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Youi know the EU is pissed at the US now over this shit.. They are not happy that the US knows of their moves in negotiations and shit, they do not like it. Alot of US citizens agree. The only ones who want Snowden in Gitmo are the US and her supporters of the police state. The 1984ers that is.

Oh please. This is all old business, they spy on us, we spy on them. No one is pissed.

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RE: Snowden gets shot.... - 7/2/2013 5:42:22 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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Youi know the EU is pissed at the US now over this shit.. They are not happy that the US knows of their moves in negotiations and shit, they do not like it. Alot of US citizens agree. The only ones who want Snowden in Gitmo are the US and her supporters of the police state. The 1984ers that is.

Oh please. This is all old business, they spy on us, we spy on them. No one is pissed.

Speak for yourself.

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RE: Snowden gets shot.... - 7/2/2013 6:09:03 AM

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I always speak for myself. Did I post words for you? Would be interesting if I could do that. Why dont you teach me?

Frankly, my dear, I dont give a damn if you are pissed. I was speaking of the countries you indicated were pissed.

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