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ORIGINAL: MasterCaneman

It wouldn't be a Constitutional question, more of a state/local statute question as to if charges are pressed. Depending on the locale and situation, security guards/officers (there is a big difference depending on the wording here) have some of the protections afforded to the police regarding public interactions. They have to, because they have to have arrest powers to detain shoplifters.

That being said, those powers don't extend as far as they would if she were a LEO. Before I started as a bouncer,I had received training in both Cat II Peach Officer (UT), and Professional Armed Security (PSO Certificate) in the same state. More than half the curriculum was in use of force and limitations. In some jurisdictions, on-site security's powers can change literally by just going through a doorway. On one side of the threshhold, the have full warranted arrest powers, one step over, and they can be charged with assault and unlawful imprisonment, even if it's technically on mall property.

LEOs are turf-conscious, and have the backing of state law. They don't like ceding that to someone who takes six hours of company training and a poorly-fitting uniform. I can't say what the laws are where this incident occured, but the ones at a mall near me aren't permitted to do anything more than report, observe, and call the local PD when something happens in the parking lot. The only time they would be permitted to intervene is if someone's life were in imminent danger, the same as anybody else. And the fact she was there by herself said a lot of things to me.

Why was she alone? Why didn't she call for assistance before stepping in? Was she jumping into the scene to score points with her company or to add to her resume? Or did her supervisor send her there to see how she handled it? Or was she sent there with the full knowledge she'd screw up and they'd have a legitimate reason to fire her?

As a caveat, I never worked as mall security-the only uniformed security I did was a short gig doing nothing more than watching the parking lot of a bar and a temp job at ParkWest for a Grateful Dead concert where all I did was direct traffic and tell people to be a little more discreet about their recreational material usage. And it doubly-sucked that I couldn't see the band and couldn't hear them that well either.

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ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady

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ORIGINAL: FrostedFlake

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Apparently, in that area, mall security can carry handcuffs, and detain someone, however, none of that means she is putting someone in imminent danger and they have a right to put her on the ground and punch her half a dozen times. That isn't "subduing" someone.

No Ma'am. It isn't subduing someone. And that isn't what that person was trying to do. The Mall Pig is the one trying to subdue... ...a non-violent non-suspect. The non-violent non-suspect used her constitutional right to punch a richly deserving idiot, a few times. Not several. Regarding excess ; please note that at no time did the Mall Pig stop exceeding her authority.

I don't know what country you grew to manhood in, Ma'am, but here in the United States we have this thing called the Bill of Rights.

Example? Okay. Here is a picture of ME, ...not getting arrested.

Insults aside, the girl in the helmet does NOT have a constitutional right to punch the mall security officer a "few" (which is the same thing as several by the way) times. I would guess from the picture, you seem to think that you can not listen to police. If your attitude is anything like you just showed me, well then, I would say you resisted and earned what you got.

I'm very aware of the Bill of Rights, but for shits and giggles, why don't you point us all to the place that says the girl had a right to take her to the ground and pound her face "a few" times?