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Hillwilliam -> Hypocrisy doesn't matter (5/7/2013 6:30:13 PM)

Lie, cheat on your spouse, steal from the state. As long as you have an (R) after your name, the SC voters will love you.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/05/07/ex-south-carolina-gov-mark-sanford-wins-old-house-seat-back-after-scandal/




TheHeretic -> RE: Hypocrisy doesn't matter (5/7/2013 6:44:34 PM)

Marion Barry.





Level -> RE: Hypocrisy doesn't matter (5/7/2013 6:48:14 PM)

The fact that either of those were re-elected is damning of the human race.




Lucylastic -> RE: Hypocrisy doesn't matter (5/7/2013 6:53:43 PM)

theres no accounting for stupid.




Marini -> RE: Hypocrisy doesn't matter (5/7/2013 7:00:38 PM)

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

Marion Barry.


Hey, Hey now, watch it buddy.
Many people in the D.C. area loved Marion Barry, just because he had a few vices does not mean he was not a great mayor!

**Many good leaders have vices!**

I have seen many, many worse elected officials, how about GWB?
President George Bush {the baby bush} was 1000 times worse than Mayor Marion Barry.

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LizDeluxe -> RE: Hypocrisy doesn't matter (5/7/2013 7:07:09 PM)

Clayton County, GA (south side of Atlanta) recently re-elected a sheriff who is under indictment for corruption. Ron White said it best: "You can't fix stupid."





TheHeretic -> RE: Hypocrisy doesn't matter (5/7/2013 7:14:11 PM)

I'm just trying to wrap my head around someone trying to go partisan on a known turd or shit for brains douchebag winning an election.

Would I get myself a nasty note, if I suggested a self-exam for stroke symptoms might be in order?




Marini -> RE: Hypocrisy doesn't matter (5/7/2013 7:18:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LizDeluxe

Clayton County, GA (south side of Atlanta) recently re-elected a sheriff who is under indictment for corruption. Ron White said it best: "You can't fix stupid."


I agree with the statement "You can't fix stupid".
One problem I have with the premise of this thread, is that MOST politicians are either stupid/willfully ignorant, extremely corrupt, soulless, or brainwashed by special interest groups.
I would imagine at least 80-90% of all politicians are hypocrites.

Why just pick out a few?

Why not stretch your brain for hours and try to come up with a few that are not hypocrites?
lol, if that is possible.


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njlauren -> RE: Hypocrisy doesn't matter (5/7/2013 7:36:03 PM)

Politicians being dirty and getting re-elected is not exactly unknown, and it transcends the political spectrum, people like Adam Clayton Powell come to mind, the guy who was the Mayor of Union City who was in jail for corruption and re-elected, and the list goes on. And yeah, people elect corrupt politicians and so forth, it happens.

I think the difference here is that the GOP has held itself up as the party of family values and morality, and nowhere do you have more of this holier then thou attitude then in places like South Carolina, where they for example wholeheartedly banned any kind of rights for same sex couples, refuse any kind of legal protection for gays, have no problem having people fired for being outed as gay or different in other ways, leather people in that state can have kids taken away simply because someone outed them as kinky, yet they will elect politicians like Sanford that made a joke out of family values,and this happened time and again. Newt Gingrich, 3 times married guy, cheated on two wives, dumped one being treated for cancer, and was a serious candidate for president, and the list goes on.

Marion Barry was scummy, but he never claimed to be an angel. Bill Clinton certainly was not a moral paragon, but I never heard him waving Bibles in people's faces or promoting the Bible as secular law, the way the GOP and its unholy alliance with the bible thumpers want to. When you go around holier then thou, call gays animals who are lower than pedophiles or people into animals, when they decry 'loose sexuality", when they decry sex education or claim themselves "real, moral americans" while scoffing at the 'people in the liberal parts, who are nothing more than deviants", and then vote for politicians that have feet of lead, it is outright hypocrisy, to say the least. Anyone remember when the GOP was making an ass out of itself impeaching Clinton, and then several of the GOP firebrands, including Bob Barr and Henry Hyde, were found out to be serial cheaters and both had bastard children?

With corrupt politicians, there was a statement about that talking about the popularity of Jimmy Walker, a mayor of NYC that was forced out of office by Tammany Hall corruption. They said they didn't mind him taking a dollar, because he let them have a nickel. Often with the corrupt politicians people feel they got something out of them, right or wrong, but people knew they were corrupt, but the politicians in question never really hid who they were either. And it is kind of like people who defend the Catholic Church with the priestly abuse cover up, their basic defense is 'others have done it, why do you pick on the church?" and the answer is the church holds itself up as moral arbiter, spends a lot of time trying to force its morality on everyone else, not just Catholics, and when you claim to be a moral arbiter and have feet of lead,it is much, much worse. Marion Barry and similar politicians never claimed that, they were corrupt, people knew it, and didn't care..but when you go around creating literally "Hezbollah" aka party of God, and you act like Sanford did and they elect him, it says their morality is all a giant smokescreen, that they apply it where they want to and that is it.




Marini -> RE: Hypocrisy doesn't matter (5/7/2013 7:47:57 PM)

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Marion Barry was scummy, but he never claimed to be an angel. Bill Clinton certainly was not a moral paragon, but I never heard him waving Bibles in people's faces or promoting the Bible as secular law, the way the GOP and its unholy alliance with the bible thumpers want to. When you go around holier then thou, call gays animals who are lower than pedophiles or people into animals, when they decry 'loose sexuality", when they decry sex education or claim themselves "real, moral americans" while scoffing at the 'people in the liberal parts, who are nothing more than deviants", and then vote for politicians that have feet of lead, it is outright hypocrisy, to say the least. Anyone remember when the GOP was making an ass out of itself impeaching Clinton, and then several of the GOP firebrands, including Bob Barr and Henry Hyde, were found out to be serial cheaters and both had bastard children?


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Another well written and thoughtful post from njlauren.




Zonie63 -> RE: Hypocrisy doesn't matter (5/8/2013 5:06:42 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

Lie, cheat on your spouse, steal from the state. As long as you have an (R) after your name, the SC voters will love you.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/05/07/ex-south-carolina-gov-mark-sanford-wins-old-house-seat-back-after-scandal/


As always, I think people just pick the lesser of two evils - whatever it may be from their perspective.

I also don't think people really care that much about cheating spouses anymore, at least not in the realm of politics, not as much as they used to.

I don't know how things are in South Carolina, but if it's anything like Arizona, I've seen where media endorsements (or vociferous rejections) can sometimes cause the opposite effect in the minds of some voters. If the voters don't trust the media, then they might think "Oh, the media don't like this guy? Then I'm voting for him!"




subrob1967 -> RE: Hypocrisy doesn't matter (5/8/2013 5:21:13 AM)

FR

So SC Democrats couldn't find a better candidate than a TV Comedian's sister, so the got Romneyed... And you want to whine about hypocrisy now? Really?




jlf1961 -> RE: Hypocrisy doesn't matter (5/8/2013 5:53:27 AM)

Subrob, considering the current crop of candidates from both parties, the country would be better off electing the peanuts gang to congress and snoopy and woodstock as president and vp.

I have actually toyed with the idea of running my timber wolf/husky dog princess in the next democrat primary for congress in this district.

My very conservative neighbor thought so much of the idea, that he is consider running his prize winning appaloosa stud in the Republican primary. After all the stallion is a ladies man and an award winning athlete.

Personally I think the horse is corrupt, I have seen him easily bribed with apple chunks.




DesideriScuri -> RE: Hypocrisy doesn't matter (5/8/2013 6:16:35 AM)

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961
Subrob, considering the current crop of candidates from both parties, the country would be better off electing the peanuts gang to congress and snoopy and woodstock as president and vp.
I have actually toyed with the idea of running my timber wolf/husky dog princess in the next democrat primary for congress in this district.
My very conservative neighbor thought so much of the idea, that he is consider running his prize winning appaloosa stud in the Republican primary. After all the stallion is a ladies man and an award winning athlete.
Personally I think the horse is corrupt, I have seen him easily bribed with apple chunks.


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LizDeluxe -> RE: Hypocrisy doesn't matter (5/8/2013 6:22:38 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Marini
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Another well written and thoughtful post from njlauren.


Despite whatever heavy biases it may contain. One would think that broad brush would get awful heavy to swing back and forth like that.




cloudboy -> RE: Hypocrisy doesn't matter (5/8/2013 6:40:16 AM)

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I think the difference here is that the GOP has held itself up as the party of family values and morality, and nowhere do you have more of this holier then thou attitude then in places like South Carolina,


You've nailed it.

Not surprisingly the Heretic is living in the last century.




TheHeretic -> RE: Hypocrisy doesn't matter (5/8/2013 6:46:17 AM)


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ORIGINAL: cloudboy

Not surprisingly the Heretic is living in the last century.



Democrat dumbassery transcends the calendar, Cloudboy. [;)]




vincentML -> RE: Hypocrisy doesn't matter (5/8/2013 7:42:51 AM)

What has hypocracy got to do with it. Sanford represented the District before he was govenor but quit to honor a term limit pledge. The District went for Romney 58% to Obama 40%. The people of Charleston like the Gov apparently. I'm surprised he didn't win by a bigger margin.




FunCouple5280 -> RE: Hypocrisy doesn't matter (5/8/2013 9:49:55 AM)

Could it be that the majority of the electorate anywhere is so uniformed they didn't even know or care? When you are voting the partyline what could anyone possibly expect?




DesideriScuri -> RE: Hypocrisy doesn't matter (5/8/2013 10:16:37 AM)

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ORIGINAL: FunCouple5280
Could it be that the majority of the electorate anywhere is so uniformed they didn't even know or care? When you are voting the partyline what could anyone possibly expect?


Deeply blue Youngstown, Ohio did support someone other than their long-time Democrat representative. I can only hope it was because James Traficant was running from his jail cell while serving his sentence for racketeering...




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