MasterCaneman
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ORIGINAL: FunCouple5280 Watched the video, and I didn't see him advocating rebellion. Merely stating that gun owners stand in the way of tyranny. I think you are upset with hearing a man speak in a Southern accent. He has to go much further to get to Wayne levels.... Except believing that having guns will stop tyranny is a real pipe dream. It will do no such thing when and if the govt. finally go over the 'fascist deep end.' Attrition and numbers will be what matters in the end. There are simply more armed individuals in the US than there are police and military. I keep hearing about F-15s, tanks, and drones, but that's ignoring the fact that it requires personnel to operate and maintain them. Live, rested, protected personnel. They can't do their jobs if they're dead, wounded, or spending so much time fighting off pinprick attacks. Couple that with the psychic shock of going to war in their own hometowns and you get the idea that there's a very real and chilling agenda about why the government wants to disarm the population. And don't start telling me about how ineffective we'd be up against "real" soldiers. I was one of those "real" soldiers, and I am fully aware that if lead starts flying, I'd almost assuredly not see the end of it. I am content with that outcome, because I am very confident that I will take at least one or two with me. That's the attrition part of the equation. There are around 20 million shooters in the United States. True, not all of them are going to rebel, but even a fraction could wreak holy hell on this country where it's truly weakest: at home. There are only about 2.2 million personnel in the entire armed forces of the United States. Add in maybe another million or so law enforcement (DHS, HSA, state and local PDs). Three million against twenty million are not good odds, even with tanks, planes, and drones. And it wouldn't be a set-piece battle, either. Think snipers and ambushes more than Kursks and Alameins. I'm sure there are some commanders who'd try, and they'd eventually find themselves in a hopeless quagmire of defending the Union from within and without. And don't forget the fact that there are opportunists in this world that would love nothing better than to see the US government fail. There are something like 100 million AKs of various stripes in circulation and megatons of military stores that could see these shores, especially during a nationwide insurrection. Another major problem they will face will be the noncombatants who cannot or will not take up arms for either side, but rather will stand by and wait for the outcome. With infrastructures compromised, they will be another drain on their resources, lest they become hostiles themselves. That is what can happen if this government goes over the "fascist deep end", and neither side wants that. Yet.
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Age and treachery will always overcome youth and ambition. The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting. ~ Sun Tzu Goddess Wrangler
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