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I hate to be the bearer of bad news but.... - 5/1/2013 1:54:19 PM

jlf1961

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Alright, I will grant that the North American continent has some stunning beauty, but this continent was not created to be conducive to human habitation.

In fact, this continent is probably one of the most dangerous on the planet. Let me explain.

The United States has more tornadoes every year than any other country on the planet, with an average of 1200, the country that comes second is Canada, with 100 tornadoes a year.

Then there is this fact, there are 6 known supervolcanoes on the planet... The US has 3 of them. Yellowstone, Long Valley in California, and the Valles caldera in New Mexico.

Yup, mother nature did not want humans on this continent, and she is going to remove us one way or another.

Or it could be that I have entirely too much time on my hands.

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RE: I hate to be the bearer of bad news but.... - 5/1/2013 4:45:44 PM

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You forgot hurricanes

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RE: I hate to be the bearer of bad news but.... - 5/1/2013 5:05:14 PM

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There are also at least 4 asteroid craters of varying size and age on the continent .

But I'll still take NA over oz. Pretty much everything in Australia is poisonous.

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RE: I hate to be the bearer of bad news but.... - 5/1/2013 5:13:18 PM

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And earthquakes.

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RE: I hate to be the bearer of bad news but.... - 5/1/2013 5:30:52 PM

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There are also at least 4 asteroid craters of varying size and age on the continent .

But I'll still take NA over oz. Pretty much everything in Australia is poisonous.

Uh every red dot on the map shown is an impact crater.

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RE: I hate to be the bearer of bad news but.... - 5/1/2013 5:51:38 PM

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

Alright, I will grant that the North American continent has some stunning beauty, but this continent was not created to be conducive to human habitation.

In fact, this continent is probably one of the most dangerous on the planet. Let me explain.

The United States has more tornadoes every year than any other country on the planet, with an average of 1200, the country that comes second is Canada, with 100 tornadoes a year.

Then there is this fact, there are 6 known supervolcanoes on the planet... The US has 3 of them. Yellowstone, Long Valley in California, and the Valles caldera in New Mexico.

Yup, mother nature did not want humans on this continent, and she is going to remove us one way or another.

Or it could be that I have entirely too much time on my hands.

LMAO, I'm going with the "time" comment.

In Maine, yeah, we have little tornadoes that might flip your 1965 mobile home, tip over your huge maple tree, or suck the roof off your garage, but most people treat them as unicorns or loch ness monsters (a few witnesses but no photos to prove they aren't "crazy"). We have occasional earthquakes, but those are usually missed entirely if you're driving, or mistaken for the dog scratching himself while leaning on the sofa/bed (there's only a little rocking, that's it). Even our big bad snowstorms won't hurt you unless you get hit by a snowplow, or pass out drunk in below-zero weather with no coat. The most deadly thing here has to be BLACK ICE...when the road is wet and freezes such as when it rains at 32*F. You can't see the damn stuff but if you hit a patch of it while rounding a corner you'll become suddenly religious for the few seconds your car is sliding sideways toward the ditch. I've seen great big trucks perched perfectly atop a big snowbank with no tracks leading up to it. Physically "impossible" to explain unless you were WITNESS. That's enough to warn Me to WATCH OUT and head home early if it starts raining in the winter. Actually most weather-related deaths in Maine are due to "Darwin's Law", meaning it was the person's own stupid fault (or that of their parents in the case of children). In other words, stay home you dummy if the driving is dangerous, don't get toxicly drunk at a bar on some below-zero night and step outside for a break without a coat, don't go exploring the woods of Aroostook county alone without knowing what direction you're headed, don't drive your snowmobile 90 mph on a frozen lake on the area where the boulders are, and don't start your car up to warm your shivering kid before you've shovelled out the goddamned tailpipe.

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RE: I hate to be the bearer of bad news but.... - 5/1/2013 5:56:19 PM

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Asteroid strikes have nothing to do with any particular part of the planet, they are 'randomly distributed' (In the old sense of the word (statistically even with the usual minor variation locally, not whatever the latest subadult generation uses it to mean.) over continents and oceans. What crater densities and patterns s we know about have only to do with intensity of study and how well the immediate geology preserves evidence over millenia. Weather, favorable ecosystems, poisonous animals and plants, these differ. As well as currently active volcanology. Nowhere on the Pacific Rim is particularly safe, all coastal regions are extremely exposed to serious geologic tsunami, far inland of these traditional 'seacoasts' are exposed to the far greater impact tsunami from large space object impacts. Land impacts are locally devastating with all the high energy issues of nuclear explosions mixed in, ocean basin impacts have all that plus they spread immediate catastrophe all over the globe and may virtually strip much neighboring land.
On a more realistic basis, land routes in the neighborhood are huge dangers as invading armies and communicable diseases have been major forces for depopulating whole districts all through human history since farming and the resultant urban elite living off their surplus came into existence. 'Civilization' itself is a great danger, social organization allowing far greater population densities than small isolated communities can support. Any climate change that affects the water and food production of these large organizations devastate whole cultures. The many pre-Maya civilizations on W. South America are perfect illustrations. Too much rain washes out the complex water works that allowed cities on virtual desert coasts, not enough rain dried crops up anyway and every one starved just the same.

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RE: I hate to be the bearer of bad news but.... - 5/1/2013 6:00:38 PM

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Stop playing on my paranoia, Jeff. Every time it thunders, I am ducking under the bed...damn fear of tornadoes.

I am open to meteors though...some cities deserve to be smashed.

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RE: I hate to be the bearer of bad news but.... - 5/1/2013 6:06:23 PM

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What about sinkholes?

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RE: I hate to be the bearer of bad news but.... - 5/1/2013 6:16:23 PM

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What about sinkholes?

some are "manmade" or man caused (including due to fracking according to some).. not all are by nature hating on humans..

Sinkholes also form from human activity, such as the rare but still occasional collapse of abandoned mines in places like Louisiana. More commonly, sinkholes occur in urban areas due to water main breaks or sewer collapses when old pipes give way. They can also occur from the overpumping and extraction of groundwater and subsurface fluids. They can also form when natural water-drainage patterns are changed and new water-diversion systems are developed. Some sinkholes form when the land surface is changed, such as when industrial and runoff-storage ponds are created; the substantial weight of the new material can trigger an underground collapse of supporting material, thus causing a sinkhole.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinkhole

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RE: I hate to be the bearer of bad news but.... - 5/1/2013 6:22:21 PM

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Sinkholes, ugh....

I have 2 or 3 spots on my property, about the size of soccer balls, they're mini sinkholes; I'm not fond of them.

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RE: I hate to be the bearer of bad news but.... - 5/1/2013 6:36:06 PM

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I think what is totally going to wipe out all life is the White Castle Hamburger chain...they were put on earth by the evil Lord Xandu to wipe out all human life so he could take over...

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RE: I hate to be the bearer of bad news but.... - 5/1/2013 6:45:21 PM

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Maybe if I eat enough of them, I won't fit in a sinkhole.

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RE: I hate to be the bearer of bad news but.... - 5/1/2013 7:07:16 PM

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Due to use of fracking in Northern New Mexico and southern Colorado, there have been increasing numbers of small earthquakes in the region.

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RE: I hate to be the bearer of bad news but.... - 5/1/2013 9:18:28 PM

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Don't forget the NRA and the Republican party.

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RE: I hate to be the bearer of bad news but.... - 5/1/2013 9:22:49 PM

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News Flash! Life On Earth is dangerous! Nobody gets out alive!. I like to think that all the things that should have killed off the human race instead makes us stronger. Besides, there's like 7 billion of us here, nature is gonna have to really do some heavy lifting to get us all. We are the bipedal mammalian analogue to the cockroach.

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RE: I hate to be the bearer of bad news but.... - 5/1/2013 10:12:23 PM

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News Flash! Life On Earth is dangerous! Nobody gets out alive!. I like to think that all the things that should have killed off the human race instead makes us stronger. Besides, there's like 7 billion of us here, nature is gonna have to really do some heavy lifting to get us all. We are the bipedal mammalian analogue to the cockroach.

There is pretty strong genetic evidence that our species was once reduced to perhaps less than 10k individuals.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toba_catastrophe_theory

Another major catastrophe and we could easily go extinct. For instance if the yellowstone volcano goes it could kill most everyone in the central US and Canada and put enough dust into the air that there would be not enough sunlight or warmth to grow any crops for 5 to 10 years worldwide. There might be some survivors from something like that but it is entirely possible they'd be too scattered to save the species.

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RE: I hate to be the bearer of bad news but.... - 5/1/2013 10:18:15 PM

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I think what is totally going to wipe out all life is the White Castle Hamburger chain...they were put on earth by the evil Lord Xandu to wipe out all human life so he could take over...

As a native Ohioan, I resent that!

Oh, wait...I've never actually eaten at one. I was going to, then I saw the plaque denoting the restaurant as a place for safe abandonment and got icked out. Because I wondered if anybody had ever done that there, and then I wondered what happened to the baby, and then I wondered what was going to be in the burger.

So I went to Wendy's instead.

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RE: I hate to be the bearer of bad news but.... - 5/1/2013 11:39:47 PM

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News Flash! Life On Earth is dangerous! Nobody gets out alive!. I like to think that all the things that should have killed off the human race instead makes us stronger. Besides, there's like 7 billion of us here, nature is gonna have to really do some heavy lifting to get us all. We are the bipedal mammalian analogue to the cockroach.

There is pretty strong genetic evidence that our species was once reduced to perhaps less than 10k individuals.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toba_catastrophe_theory

Another major catastrophe and we could easily go extinct. For instance if the yellowstone volcano goes it could kill most everyone in the central US and Canada and put enough dust into the air that there would be not enough sunlight or warmth to grow any crops for 5 to 10 years worldwide. There might be some survivors from something like that but it is entirely possible they'd be too scattered to save the species.

You are indeed correct. I'm aware of the Toba Event, as well as the Lesser Dryas, which is suspected of exterminating the Clovis people from North America 13K years ago. And if Yellowstone does go, the casualty list would be astronomical, as well. But remember that the first two occurred when the worldwide population of H. Sapiens was only in the neighborhood of some hundreds of thousands to perhaps a million.

While population density and the dependence on global networks to deliver food, medicine and fertilizer would be crippled or eliminated would result in a catastrophe of Biblical proportions, the sheer momentum of the numbers of people present today would ensure a sizable population of survivors. Even if the event killed off 75% of humanity, it would still leave over a billion to carry on. Even 90% would still leave 700 million or so, an ample genetic pool with which to carry on the species.

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RE: I hate to be the bearer of bad news but.... - 5/1/2013 11:41:22 PM

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Sinkholes, ugh....

I have 2 or 3 spots on my property, about the size of soccer balls, they're mini sinkholes; I'm not fond of them.

Lalalalala CAN'T HEEEEEAR YOUUUUU!
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