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Tiny TV Tantrum - 4/29/2013 9:12:22 PM

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I don't watch much TV. Lately, I've been watching some old TV shows. let me give you an example.

Season 2 episode 8 of Spartacus

Lotta nasty hacking and slashing in this history inspired drama. Ok, soap with swords and sandals. It's great diversion. BUT... I seem to be missing something.

I would think the very last thing the producers would want you to know is what is going to happen in the next episode. Yet, here is the odd bit, that is JUST what they spend the last few minutes of each recording doing. So, it's not like some idiot webmaster or TVGuide publisher spilled the beans and spoiled it (That is the right word, isn't it? Spoiled?) The guys who made the show did it. And if I'm not quick, they will succeed.

What the fuck is up with that?

So. What am I missing? Was I just born on the wrong planet? Clinically insane? A congenital moron? Or is there a reason to piss in the soup like this?

Lord knows, if they didn't do that, they could make each episode two minutes longer. Don't TELL me that's the reason. Please. Too goddamn lazy to make film, so they waste time pissing on it.

If anyone has enlightenment for me, I think I am prepared to receive it.

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RE: Tiny TV Tantrum - 4/30/2013 6:06:29 PM

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It's not the only show to ever have done that. It's called a teaser. Kinda like seeing commercials for the show, or trailers for movies.

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RE: Tiny TV Tantrum - 4/30/2013 11:43:43 PM

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You're still going to watch it though, aren't you, FF? You will probably watch it to see how those snippets fit in the next episode.

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RE: Tiny TV Tantrum - 5/1/2013 12:16:25 AM

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You're still going to watch it though, aren't you, FF?

Not if I can help it.

But, you see, I was, ... busy... for a minute and couldn't run in and turn it off. And it's tough to aim with my fingers in my ears. So I got told stuff I REALLY didn't want to know. You know. "What was going to happen next", BEFORE IT HAPPENED. Which takes a good deal of the SURPRISE out of it. The whole experience might have made me a little crazy. Though it may be that particular issue stems from another source.

Is that what teasers do?

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RE: Tiny TV Tantrum - 5/1/2013 4:34:24 AM

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Teasers are designed to make you want to come back and watch the next episode. They will start to show something but always leave things out so you are left wondering, "wait, what about...?"

I don't know of any series that don't do that. Even the news programs like 20/20, Dateline and 60 Minutes will give you a hint of what they are talking about on the next episode.

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RE: Tiny TV Tantrum - 5/1/2013 5:47:16 AM

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must admit, I turn off the teasers.... but then I tend to watch shows like Spartacus (which kicks serious ass btw) three or four in a row, so when the credits start, I click to the next one.

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RE: Tiny TV Tantrum - 5/1/2013 6:11:27 AM

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ORIGINAL: FrostedFlake

I don't watch much TV. Lately, I've been watching some old TV shows. let me give you an example.

Season 2 episode 8 of Spartacus

I've seen the 1960 version of Spartacus with Kirk Douglas, but I didn't know there was a TV series. I don't watch much TV either, at least not as much as I used to, and not much from this century either. Thanks to Netflix, I'm only recently catching up on all the shows I missed in the 1990s. I don't even have cable TV anymore, since I was paying for hundreds of channels and "nothing was on."

Having watched the movie and read a bit about the history of Spartacus, I already know how it ends. I vaguely recall watching a remake of Spartacus several years ago, but it didn't leave much of an impression on me. It didn't seem to hold a candle to the original. I doubt I could really get into an entire TV series.

On the other hand, if they made Caligula into a TV series (perhaps a sitcom), I might check it out.

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RE: Tiny TV Tantrum - 5/1/2013 9:24:29 AM

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ORIGINAL: Zonie63

On the other hand, if they made Caligula into a TV series (perhaps a sitcom), I might check it out.

It would need to be a cable show but it definitely could be interesting. Although, since it would have a definitive timeline to end, it might make a better mini-series.

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RE: Tiny TV Tantrum - 5/1/2013 9:27:30 AM

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THey managed to spread the story of Spartacus out over four mini series, Id like to see caligula too:)

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RE: Tiny TV Tantrum - 5/1/2013 11:58:53 AM

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Lafayette Lady
Teasers are designed to make you want to come back and watch the next episode.

That sounds exactly backwards to me. Watching a television program is not like buying a car. (Ooooo! Thunderbird! I want!) Showing what is going to happen beforehand is like reading the last page of the book, to see how it ends, and THEN reading the rest. I gather there are people who actually do that, but I don't know why.

So, to review, I've just watched the 19th installment of an historical docudrama and the producers are TRYING to make me WANT to see the twentieth... by spoiling it.

.....................!?

Okay. Wrong planet.

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For them what might want to see it.

There are six episodes apparently discarded by the producers the first time around. And then tacked on in the middle of the concurrent series. Again, I am 'confused' by the theatrical acumen.

http://www.btvguide.com/Spartacus-Gods-of-the-Arena/watch-online/Season+1/?#season-Season1-eps

Start episode 1 at 1:53. Skip everything up to there. Trust me, it is only spoiler. Very effective spoiler at that.

After this six episode series, turn your attention to the earlier 33 episode series about events that happened later. All of it seems to follow history closely enough to be satisfying. Sometimes the dialog illustrates the limited word choice and truncated diction of Latin. And of course, the limited and downright vicious morality of the day is unavoidable. Do you know how the Romans first found wives? It tells you a lot about them. Suckled by wolves, indeed.

http://www.btvguide.com/Spartacus-War-of-the-Damned/episodes

I suggest Gorrilavid and daclips are your best choice of players. Right-clicking gives you option to stretch the image to fill the screen, then letterbox, and so on.

Enjoy.

And, thanks for cluing me in.

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RE: Tiny TV Tantrum - 5/1/2013 1:10:10 PM

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But they are not showing you everything that happens, just bits.

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RE: Tiny TV Tantrum - 5/1/2013 1:31:55 PM

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If anyone has enlightenment for me, I think I am prepared to receive it.

It's not for you. It's for me. I didn't watch Series Show X, but I watched the show that came on after it. Well, tuned it a little early, caught the preview of Series Show X for next week.. thought it looked kind of cool.

Now I watch Series Show X.

See? They already got you.. but they didn't have me.. now they do.

That and $ ... it's always about $$$.

All hypothetical and just a guess.

I like previews and they rarely depict exactly what's going to happen. In fact, half the time they fuck with you on purpose so that you're going to spend the week thinking something is going to happen that never actually happens. Selective edits. I can actually appreciate it since I do that myself when I write my columns.

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RE: Tiny TV Tantrum - 5/1/2013 1:54:58 PM

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I'm with FF on this one.
I really really hate those so-called 'teasers'.

In most cases, they only show the good and interesting bits.
That leaves the rest of the crap that I wouldn't really want to watch.
Once you've seen the essential hi-lights of it, the rest is just bum-fodder and fill-in.

I haven't found one single movie or TV show that I can honestly say was worth watching for those missing bits.
Watch the teaser - show completely spoiled IMHO.

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RE: Tiny TV Tantrum - 5/1/2013 5:41:41 PM

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But they are not showing you everything that happens, just bits.

Well, YES. That's exactly it. If they showed everything, it would be the next episode. Instead, they spoil the next episode in two minutes or less. Apparently, the idea is get me to want to see what just got hacked to bits right in front of me. What I don't understand is WHY. You seem to think you do. But then again, not. Care to elucidate? Why do they do it? Why should I want them to? I'd like to be able to understand the thought process that leads to the reasoned belief that intentionally fucking things up makes things more attractive.

Graffiti might make more sense, then, too.

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BitaTruble
It's not for you. It's for me. I didn't watch Series Show X, but I watched the show that came on after it. Well, tuned it a little early, caught the preview of Series Show X for next week.. thought it looked kind of cool.

Now I watch Series Show X.

See? They already got you.. but they didn't have me.. now they do.

Interesting take, BT.

They throw the fan base under the bus hoping to ensnare a passerby. Hoping, I suppose, to gain opportunity to throw him under the bus, next week.

It might be a good thing I don't watch much TV. They don't do this kinda stuff to ball games.

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RE: Tiny TV Tantrum - 5/1/2013 5:51:04 PM

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Did I mention Brad Pitt plays Julius Caesar? Looks damn good too, and I'm not even gay.

Now THAT is what I think a teaser should look like.

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RE: Tiny TV Tantrum - 5/1/2013 6:12:41 PM

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I don't see it as mucking up the next episode. When you go to the theater to see the latest movie, are you aggravated by the trailers of coming attractions? It really isn't that much different.

I think you are getting a bit overly miffed over something so small. Honestly, you know how long a show is on for, and typically the teaser is preceded by, "on our next episode." You can easily just change the channel, stop the recording or shut the television off.

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RE: Tiny TV Tantrum - 5/1/2013 8:18:18 PM

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Miffed? Overly? Because I asked why and you don't know? But think you do. And now you are noticing that you don't?

Why would you noticing you don't know what you thought you did miff me?

It has nothing to do with me.

Trailers re coming attractions are routinely skipped, and do not bear on 'the next exciting episode of' whatever show it might be or for that matter the movie the trailers are skipped in order to see.

And... ...I did say "tantrum".

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RE: Tiny TV Tantrum - 5/1/2013 10:24:29 PM

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Miffed? Overly? Because I asked why and you don't know? But think you do. And now you are noticing that you don't?

Why would you noticing you don't know what you thought you did miff me?

It has nothing to do with me.

Trailers re coming attractions are routinely skipped, and do not bear on 'the next exciting episode of' whatever show it might be or for that matter the movie the trailers are skipped in order to see.

And... ...I did say "tantrum".

Yes, overly miffed, also known as "tantrum."

Myself, and others have explained to you why they do it, you apparently don't like the answer. So for you, the next episode teaser ruins it for you. For many others, it isn't that big of a deal and some people like it.

Episodic television has been showing you bits for the next episode for more than a couple of decades, and you are now just noticing it and then pitching fits because the explanation you received not just from me, but from several other people isn't to your liking? Since apparently you are psychic and those 90 seconds (yep, not "minutes" just 90 mere seconds) allow you to ascertain everything worth seeing in the next episode, of something that because of the subject matter is already known, why watch at all?

And I was stating you are overly miffed at the subject, not at what I said. Sorry we can't all agree that it is a horrible thing that shows do, but don't throw silly hissy fits to me, because it just makes you look like an ass.

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RE: Tiny TV Tantrum - 5/1/2013 11:38:26 PM

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And I was stating you are overly miffed at the subject, not at what I said.

I see. I misunderstood you.

And you, me. I said at the outset I don't watch much TV. I asked what the deal is with this new (to me) phenomena of spoiling the show. I was told some astounding stuff, that it was SALESMANSHIP. I asked "How could a sane person arrive at that idea?" And then you began to repeat yourself. I pointed out that you seemed to think you were explaining the origin of this bizarre idea, but that you were not. And THEN you said I was miffed. And that's not true. You also said I was OVERLY miffed. Another error. I assumed incorrectly you were referring to my latest comment when you meant my earliest and replied with that in mind.

To be clear, I am not miffed. I am mystified.

Any happier?

Now then, about pitching fits...

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And I was stating you are overly miffed at the subject, not at what I said. Sorry we can't all agree that it is a horrible thing that shows do, but don't throw silly hissy fits to me, because it just makes you look like an ass.

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