Real0ne
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We do indeed have a well regulated militia, hence the National Guard being units from individual states. I am certain they are indeed background checked, any other "militia" isn't regulated nor are they recognized as anything more than vigilantes. As to the claims of felonies being victimless, not quite true, here are the top 20 crimes considered felonies:
(1) Drug abuse violations 1,841,182 Nope no injury here
(2) Driving while Intoxicated 1,427,494 (aka Felony DUI) Nope no injury here
(3) Property crime 1,610,088 (includes burglary, larceny, theft, motor vehicle theft, and arson.) yep injury here
(4) Larceny-theft 1,172,762 yep injury here
(5) Assault 1,305,693 yep injury here
(6) Disorderly conduct 709,105 unknown usually no injury
(7) Liquor laws 633,654 Nope no injury here
(8) Violent crime 597,447 (including murder, non-negligent manslaughter, forcible rape, robbery, aggravated assault. yep injury here
(9) Drunkenness 589,402 Nope no injury here
(10) Aggravated assault 433,945 yep injury here
(11) Burglary 303,853 yep injury here
(12) Vandalism 291,575 yep injury here
(13) Fraud 252,873 yep injury here
(14) Weapons violations (carrying or possession) 188,891 Nope no injury here
(15) Curfew and loitering 143,002 Nope no injury here
(16) Robbery 126,715 yep injury here
(17) Offenses against family and children 122,812 unknown
(18) Stolen property (buying, receiving, possession) 122,061 yep injury here
(19) Motor vehicle theft 118,231 yep injury here
(20) Forgery and counterfeiting 103,448 yep injury here
All laws that are created by a legislature are under "legislative fiat" fiat in this case only means a decree or sanction, so therefore if within the body of law that governs a state or country, they decide that felons lose their right to carry a weapon, it has standing within that state or country. Your point makes little sense Real, not that I was looking for you to make sense.
yep that is what the kings did, is set law by decree or sovereign prerogative.
anything you did not vote on are police operations, sanctioned under a ficticious sub-sovereign known as the state with the same powers roughly as the old english "estates", (manors). lovely small world.
First a crime was a trespass upon the realm, here the state, it was extended to include private injuries. The usual improper democratic incorporation that removes rights with one shoe fits all decrees and public extortion by licensed privileges.
the national guard does not include all able bodied men and they are a standby army, not a militia.
the present day police forces are domestic armies.
they do not have the lawful authority to ban felons unless stipped in the constitution with an amendment. That is why it is the police state because it extends the meaning of the constitution according to their construction, regardless of constitutionality.
The legislatures have no obligation what so ever to produce so called law that is constitutional, the test is whatever they can push through the government based court system.
in so far as what a police state is, well you can read the redmon case for starters, again our fav usurper marshall on the bench and the best read is cover to cover of 1st through 5th editions of keeton prosser restatement of torts. They make those lines expressly clear.
as you can see felonies include so called crimes that injure no one yet these people having injured no one are being robbed of their "unalienable" right (that means a right that you cannot give up under any circumstances even if you want to) to protect themselves by bullshit unconstitutional policing.
reminds me of a funny story. was in the law library, met this kid who was a paralegal and starting his first year of law school to grow up to be an attorney. He was struggling with the code trying to get a grip on how to get his car back from his previous gf and was ready to give up.
The kid just about fell over when I pointed out the applicable decisions and how to properly bring it into court. he said: "Thats it! Thats exactly what I need! Damn, they never taught any of this stuff my paralegal course".
If you read them from cover to cover even though some things are repeated you will then understand what I talk about in so far as the distinctions that they make. Then we can have fun with equity and trust law next.
cheers.
btw the kid won his case.
and a final thought on this.
do me a favor, this is a standing challenge to anyone who believes they are sharp in law, if you have any facts and evidence that the federal, state, constitutions or municipal charters apply to me (or you for that matter) please post them. and no the 14th stating that I am subject to the jurisdiction is not a probative substantial fact or evidence. I have made this challenge many times and no one regardless of their title or experience has done it yet.
~The house of cards!
< Message edited by Real0ne -- 4/21/2013 3:35:25 PM >
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