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Nosathro -> RE: Some Justice for a family that lost a son (4/6/2013 12:55:33 PM)
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ORIGINAL: Nosathro Just because you can't deal with it does not make in bullshit. I think the article's citation's can stand up to Jenny. Brittanica and the University of Chicage, just for starters, aren't backwater slackers.[53] Encyclopedia Brittanica [67] Baepler, B. "White Slaves, African Masters 1st Edition." White Slaves, African Masters 1st Edition by Baepler. University of Chicago Press [68] "History - British History in depth: British Slaves on the Barbary Coast". BBC. [69] "Malawi Slave Routes and Dr. David Livingstone Trail". UNESCO [70] Steven Mintz. "Digital History Slavery Fact Sheets" Here's another tidbit for your educational benefit. Most of the black slaves who were brought to the Americas would have been slaves no matter where they ended up. They were slaves to start with. And it was overwhelmingly the Spanish, not Northern European Americans, who were engaged in the trade.Myth: Europeans physically enslaved Africans or hired mercenaries who captured people for export or that African rulers were "Holocaust abettors" who were themselves to blame for the slave trade. Fact: Europeans did engage in some slave raiding; the majority of people who were transported to the Americas were enslaved by Africans in Africa. Myth: Most slaves were imported into what is now the United States Fact: Well over 90 percent of slaves from Africa were imported into the Caribbean and South America Source: University of Houston Digital History Project Nor are blacks the only people with a history of slavery to grouse about. White European Caucasians have a long history of being enslaved, continuing right on up to the 19th Century when here in America they were fighting the War Between the States that freed black slaves. Medieval Spain and Portugal were the scene of almost constant Muslim invasion of the predominantly Christian area. Periodic raiding expeditions were sent from Al-Andalus to ravage the Iberian Christian kingdoms, bringing back booty and slaves. In raid against Lisbon, Portugal in 1189, for example, the Almohad caliph Yaqub al-Mansur took 3,000 female and child captives, while his governor of Córdoba, in a subsequent attack upon Silves, Portugal in 1191, took 3,000 Christian slaves.[32] From the 11th to the 19th century, North African Barbary Pirates engaged in Razzias, raids on European coastal towns, to capture Christian slaves to sell at slave markets in places such as Algeria and Morocco.[33][34] The Byzantine-Ottoman wars and the Ottoman wars in Europe brought large numbers of slaves into the Islamic world.[42] From the mid to late 14th, through early 18th centuries, the Ottoman devsirme-janissary system enslaved and forcibly converted to Islam an estimated 500,000 to one million non-Muslim (primarily Balkan Christian) adolescent males.[43] ...Eastern Europe suffered a series of Tatar invasions, the goal of which was to loot and capture slaves into jasyr. Seventy-five Crimean Tatar raids were recorded into Poland-Lithuania between 1474 and 1569.[45] There were more than 100,000 Russian captives in the Kazan Khanate alone in 1551.[46] Now frankly, I don't know why you decided to go for "white guilt" by playing the slavery card. No good reason, I warrant. But when you feel compelled to post ignorant and irrelevant bullshit, I recommend you get used to being called on it. Have a nice day. K. It is still Blacks, some 500,000 plus, enslaved in America no matter what you say or try to change the subject.
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