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LokisBrat -> RE: How to deal in a nilla world? (6/23/2006 7:40:44 PM)

Having to seperate the "nilla" world and the one we walk in can be quite difficult at times.  Being a gemini I am able to move in and out of most situations like this with ease.  This comes from practice and always being considered a bit "odd" by all the people that have ever been in my life.  As for my personal life, very few people have any insight on it, and thats the way I like it.  The best advice I can give is to practice seperating these two worlds and be consistent in the one you are in at that time.  Sounds easy right? Until your boss or coworker pisses you off and you verbally state "hmm that's a paddlin" and you get that look.[sm=whap.gif]


LOKI




Mystique567 -> RE: How to deal in a nilla world? (6/23/2006 7:55:19 PM)

Because of our professions the Dom that I play with and I keep our lives separate. We spend our nilla life apart and just play together. Until him and I am able to deal with it better thats the way it needs to be.




feastie -> RE: How to deal in a nilla world? (6/24/2006 12:27:19 AM)

I realize this is going to come as a shock, but the world is not divided into BDSM and Vanilla.  The world is the world, and the only difference between someone who enjoys a BDSM relationship and someone who doesn't, is that one enjoys a BDSM relationship and the other doesn't. 

Your toy has a name.  Practice using it.  Do you love your toy?  Then when asked about your intentions, say so.  Don't turn the questions into more than they are.  When he performs a "service" for you in front of them, be sure to thank him, lovingly.  People have families; meeting them shouldn't be such a big deal.  It only is if you make it so.




glitterkitty -> RE: How to deal in a nilla world? (6/24/2006 1:16:06 AM)

LOL you remind me a lot of my previous Owner, i was punished for making her stay uncomfortably long at my parents house. The look she gave me when i started a conversation topic that was obviously going to take a while sent a shiver down my spine.

But after the punishment i didnt do it again!




SusanofO -> RE: How to deal in a nilla world? (6/24/2006 1:21:07 AM)

I like LA's comment on learning the art of the 'half' (white) lie. I see nothing wrong with them at all in the situation described by the OP - or in situations where someone is asking things akin to: "Do these jeans make me look fat?" (if they really do make them look fat, but why say that if they: A). Don't really want to know (and you know they don't really want to know, you know 'em well enough to tell) and -

B). It's just going to hurt their feelings if you say: "Yeah, geez you've put on some pounds lately haven't you"?

Most of the time, bottom -line (for me): Who's it hurting? (plus, if I do decide to opt out of  a "white lie" I think could be useful, and be, instead "blunt, or "more honest" (or whatever) - I usually look at my "to-do" list for the day and think: "And just how much time do I want to spend? (after I say whatever), explaining "what I mean by that"?

Unless the topic is extra meaningful to me, that is usually enough to make my decision for me. Lazy of me? Possibly (I do have to ask myself, though, just how much time the other person really would want to hear me opine on their possible weight gain if their jeans really do make them look fat - in the name of my personal quest for more honesty. The answer usually seems to be: Not all that much. So - do I think a "white lie" sometimes completely practical? Almost always.

I have never been in your situation but, as far as your "intentions with their son" you could say something like: "To contribute to his happiness as much as possible - hopefully I'm doing that now - I really love him and want to see him as happy as he can be."

That (I imagine) is true - and the bdsm part of a relationship maybe is not something that's even relevant to answering that. Gosh, currently, almost nobody I know (hardly, sans two people who are not involved in bdsm in anyway, and three that actually are involved in this area of "life-style preference" (sans the people at CM) know I am involved in it. I am not ashamed of it - but it simply doesn't come up as a topic. Well once, with my sister. She knows too, I guess. She doesn't care - I think it was kind of a non-starter for her, as far as being "shocked." 

I am a believer that - whether or not you'd "admit it"  if someone put a gun to your head to get you to discuss them - there really are areas of one's life that really truly are nobody else's business. This might be one of those areas. So I wouldn't feel too "guilty" or not "open enough", etc.  about not "coming clean" or whatever with any of 'em about what it is you two do together. 

As far as getting them to like you - you're likeable, right? What's not to like?
You can: Ask them about themsleves and be a good listener (people love to talk about themselves, I think. Especially sometimes, the quiet ones it seems might not have much to say). I once asked my father-in-law, a WWII POW, about his experiences as a fighter pilot during WWII and he want on for hours. He said things his nuclear family members hadn't known about - ever. He got all esxcited (in a good way) talking about it. Nobody had asked him about it much before, I guess (my husband's family is/was also kind of "quiet", so he never volunteered it, either, I am guessing).

I am no expert, but - sometimes I think people can be somewhat 'blown away' by it if you remember something about them that maybe your significant other has mentioned (somebody has gone back to school, or has had surgery) and you inquire "how it's going" - I think it shows you are at least interested in them. As far as that kind of thing being construed as "phony" - to me, even letting that thought cross one's mind may very well be "hair-splitting" if it is the end result you are concerned with anyway (making them feel good about you).

Maybe you could send some of them little note cards to just say "hi", or "thanks for dinner, enjoyed meeting you" etc. - if you're the kind of person who does that kind of thing (some people don't send cards, but - maybe call them instead, to say thanks for dinner). This can be hard for shyer people or around people one wants to impress somehow (it has been for me, on more than one occasion I know).

I was lucky enough to have in-laws who were/are: A). Sane B). Genuinely nice people. I actually like being around them. Some folks aren't that lucky (my sister, for one).
I have wished on occasion, that side of the family would learn to "talk" more (they don't talk much. Gosh, I was raised by parents who almost never stopped talking...but - my husband's family are all pretty quiet and seem a little insulated (not a put down) - but I think they think I am some kind of anomaly or rare species of human they've never seen before because I like to talk (I've felt that on holidays, for years. Talking is something that I've usually thought is better if more than one person does it in a conversation, but will do monologues if necessary, he, he. But still, they are nice people. Not everyone's likes to talk. Some people (some Bhuddists, for instance, think much of it can be 'frivolous'. But of course, they're not logging on to chat-rooms or websites like this one, I imagine either and that's off the topic here anyway).  

Good luck with this. - Susan  




agirl -> RE: How to deal in a nilla world? (6/24/2006 3:46:49 AM)

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ORIGINAL: feastie

I realize this is going to come as a shock, but the world is not divided into BDSM and Vanilla.  The world is the world, and the only difference between someone who enjoys a BDSM relationship and someone who doesn't, is that one enjoys a BDSM relationship and the other doesn't. 

Your toy has a name.  Practice using it.  Do you love your toy?  Then when asked about your intentions, say so.  Don't turn the questions into more than they are.  When he performs a "service" for you in front of them, be sure to thank him, lovingly.  People have families; meeting them shouldn't be such a big deal.  It only is if you make it so.


I was reading the posts on the thread and found myself thinking rather the same thing.

It's quite expected to a little shy or *held back* when we meet ANYONE at first, whatever the situation.

If you feel reserved around his parents, you may just be accepted as a shy person and you can *come out of your shell* as and when you feel comfortable.

I'm shy around certain people or at certain times and sometimes I'm not. It has nothing to do with M/s. It's ok to be shy and reserved.

agirl




JessieMe -> RE: How to deal in a nilla world? (6/24/2006 4:15:10 AM)

Ok.. first of all... the names question. Old world or not.. I generally find that you call people by whatever name they introduce themselves as. So.. if they introduced themselves as Bob and Susan.. then its Bob and Susan.. if they introduced themselves as Mr and Mrs Toysparents then they are Mr and Mrs Toysparents. The only time I have a block is when they say.. Just call us Mom and Dad.. then I will generally tell them.. It may take some getting used to and I will work on it then I call them whatever is comfortable. LOL

It is not a bad thing to say.. I met your son over the internet through a regional website. You dont have to be specific. LOTS of people do that and the stigma from that is becoming less and less. Have you talked with Toy about what information he IS comfortable with his parents having? Stick with that and have fun with it.. His parents DONT have to approve of you if he is over the age of consent.. Let your  personality shine girl and dont be intimidated. Do you hold down a job? How do you handle the work environment? You dont have to stop being domme just because you are with his folks.. Just dont be BDSM LOL. Let him submit to you. Ask him to do stuff, dont be ashamed. Just dont go over the top. (thinking the cheerleader comment LOL.. gotta love it>  Wouldnt it be funny if all along they suspected their son would be with a strong dominant woman. They raised this child. They may know him better than they let on.

The question of "what are your intentions with our son".. Laugh... even laugh at loud if you want. Tell them.. I intend to keep him in my life for as long as he consents to do so and treats me like a Queen... hehehe.. You will both know what you mean and the only thing his folks will get out of it is that he is good to you..

BDSM is not a vaccuum. There are elements to your relationship I am sure that can be associated with the vanilla.. he is a gentleman in your presence I imagine. He is respectful..He is good to you.. Thank his parents for raising such a well bred man for you.. and grin.. this could be a pretty fun mind fuck all its own..





scratchingpost -> RE: How to deal in a nilla world? (6/24/2006 8:28:53 AM)

JessieMe...ohhh you gave Me some FASCINATING ideas....My poor poor boy <smirks> Its so funny because I have never been in this t ype of situation before My ex had no siblings, and was raised by a single mom...she was from beyond hell and her mere presence, because of her attitude, made it so I did not care one iota her thoughts of Me or what I was doing with/to her son....I also did not care one tenth about him as I do My toy (which is why toy has My collar the first ever I have given) That has to be part of the nervousness, his family matters to him and he matters to Me. To offend, upset or come off looking "odd" to them makes him look bad and I dont want that. I truly enjoy seeuing My toy happy his smile lights up a room and brightens My whole day.





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