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njlauren -> RE: Has Political Correctness Really Come Down to This??? (3/23/2013 1:17:46 PM)
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Yeah, it is, it is also pathetic that a young woman in this society suddenly becomes a blushing victorian woman about ready to faint from witnessing or hearing about some sort of lewd thing *gag*.
I am no Fox News, Rush Limbaugh type, who claim that sexual harassment is a myth, that men are being beaten down, etc, but in this case they are right.
Here is the deal, they were are a conference of python programmers (ya can tell how geeky that is), and yeah, they were having fun with terms like 'dongles' and other things, making sophomoric jokes, like 'doing something to his dongle' or whatever. It is pretty lame humor, but apparently this woman (who is supposed to be a 'software evangelist, whatever that is), decided she didn't like the jokes, and instead of doing what a rational person would do, she turned around, took their picture, and tweeted it to her followers (where it blossomed out from there, of course), basically calling them harassers and pigs for telling 'sexual jokes' or something (yahoo had it as a front page news article on their site).
So it gets even worse/better. One of the guys ended up being fired from his company when they saw the tweet, because they were afraid of a backlash, so over this, a guy with 3 kids lost his job.
Well, the proverbial shit hit the fan, and there was a lot of outrage over this in the tech community, especially in california where this took place. Apparently, the outrage was so large that the twit that did this was fired, because her company was getting all kinds of firms that might be their client, telling them basically to fuck off and die for employing someone so stupid.
The point here is that common sense seemed to be totally oblivious to this twit, who obviously is one of the people who can't go a second without throwing something on a social networking site. Someone with an ounce of common sense would have turned around, and told the guys to put a sock in it, and it would have ended there, but she couldn't resist 'getting them' and such, and karma came back on her.
And despite what I am sure the Gloria Steinhams of the world would claim, this has a lot more to it....
1)This was not in the workplace. Lawyers could argue that if the programmers were at the event, paid for by their employers, that it is an extension of the company, but the key factor is, the woman in question did not work for their firm(s)...(the two guys worked for different companies). This could not be considered workplace sexual harassment, as some idiot commenters on another site said, so the company is on think grounds for firing the guy, hopefully he will find a high profile attorney and bankrupt them, as well as the girl in question.
2)She violated their civil rights, something I am sure a lot of the Facebook/social networking world will find shocking. It is illegal under california law (sadly not federal) to take someone's picture and post it without their consent, it specifically was meant for cases like this, this was not on the street, it was a private facility. She now is subject to both criminal and civil penalties for what she did.
For committing that act alone, her company is justified in firing her, and unlike some of the 'women's rights' lawyers I saw interviewed on this, they can't argue she is being punished for protecting herself, she violated the law.
What is really sad about this is it gives a lot of fuel to the real enemy, the real discrimination that is out there and ignored, and a story like this gives credibility to the Fox News and Rush Limbaugh bloat heads that sexual harassment and discrimination is a myth. I have seen the real things, I have seen investment banker types and traders touching women in inappropriate ways, I have heard them say stuff to them that was demeaning and foul *(rush limbaugh might think some young jackwad grabbing his crouch and saying to a passing admin "Hey, baby want some of this", but then again, the man has been married, what, 4 times?), I have seen floor traders put a used condom in a piece of equipment and ask for a female tech to 'fix it' deliberately, and her bosses saying "oh, you know, they are just having fun, they are letting off steam").....so it is quite real.
But this? Fucking grow up, you twit, this isn't 19th century England, and in that place and time she had the power to get them to stop....among other things, knowing the nerd community only too well, they were just thinking they were being clever, and if she had said boo to them they would have turned white and stopped.
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