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FunCouple5280 -> RE: Obama Honored With Israel`s Presidential Medal of Distinction. (3/22/2013 11:43:51 AM)
Lol, Isreal is so dependant the US.. If we stopped backing them, they would cease to exist in months as nearly ever arab nation would declare war on them. Is the president an enemy of Israel? No. Has he chilled relation between the US and Israel? Yes. Isreal is getting on its knees and doing some necessary sucking to keep the guns and money flowing. Especially with Iran on the verge of nuclear capability. You need to pull your head out of the DNC's ass, and see it for what it is: a stunt.... Why honor previous US presidents? They were funding unconditionally. Obama needed a little ego stroke.

Owner59 -> RE: Obama Honored With Israel`s Presidential Medal of Distinction. (3/22/2013 12:24:04 PM)
He won most of the American Jewish vote and has only gotten guff for his efforts to halt new Israeli building on Arab land......(the only recent president to say so and the biggest issue)) Where`s the stroke and why does he need that? He didn`t announce any grand plan for peace and is not just visiting Israel. The previos prez pretty much said,"you`re the boss,just tell us what to do and please send us the bill" Maybe that`s why the President gets bashed so much for being "anti-Israel"?

FunCouple5280 -> RE: Obama Honored With Israel`s Presidential Medal of Distinction. (3/22/2013 1:22:08 PM)
I am not saying the president isn't justified in some Israeli policies. Just saying, they would prefer things to be like the good'ol days when they asked for a bunker buster they got a bunker buster. Ol directo goes on like Obama is best buds with Israel. He certainly has been a critic to say the least. Just ask yourself. Is Obama the guy Israel, not American Jews, would prefer in the White House? I could care less what Isreal thinks, but I am just keeping it to the topic of the original post.

Owner59 -> RE: Obama Honored With Israel`s Presidential Medal of Distinction. (3/22/2013 2:30:18 PM)
This is good news.... "Netanyahu Apologizes to Turkey for Deadly Ship Raid" A melting of tentions.... http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323419104578376352205848268.html And a sign that the President`s "treat all as equals"(or at least not as completely different,ie. conservative policy)is working.And a sign,in spite of the lefties here,that the President`s ME policy is NOT a continuation of the status quo. The President isn`t emperor of the world. His style has never been to tell our friends and allies what to do. The respect he`s gotten there,from both sides of the political spectrum...... he`s earned.

Yachtie -> RE: Obama Honored With Israel`s Presidential Medal of Distinction. (3/22/2013 2:34:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi Gee and here I thought you were merely passing along some good new about the POTUS. Oh! I though he was passing gas.[8D]

Owner59 -> RE: Obama Honored With Israel`s Presidential Medal of Distinction. (3/22/2013 3:43:37 PM)
Just meting out the humiliation and shame, the guilt ridden come and ask for...... How can I refuse?[:D]

Politesub53 -> RE: Obama Honored With Israel`s Presidential Medal of Distinction. (3/22/2013 4:48:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WantsOfTheFlesh quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle After delivering a glimmer of hope that his Presidency might be a welcome change from the usual US pattern of craven subservience to Zionists in Cairo 2009, his subsequent record of shameful surrender to AIPAC speaks for itself. Perhaps it should be taken as another indicator of the level of malice, hyperbole, paranoia and falsehood that is the stock in trade of Zionists lol maybe a pally supporter looked in tha mirror & mistaked it for tha reflection of a zionist? are tha lies bout tha e1 bisecting a pally state "malicious" too? http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_context=2&x_outlet=10&x_article=2358 Nice, a ProIsraeli reporting organisation, claiming the word accuracy.

Owner59 -> RE: Obama Honored With Israel`s Presidential Medal of Distinction. (3/22/2013 6:05:53 PM)
"Israeli Apology Resets Alliance With Turkey" http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323419104578376352205848268.html

erieangel -> RE: Obama Honored With Israel`s Presidential Medal of Distinction. (3/22/2013 10:28:14 PM)
What I found funny is that every news outlet showed Obama being honored with that medal in Israel...except for Fox. While Obama was being honored in Israel, Fox was airing a commercial for their Hannity special about Obama and his anti-Israeli policies that are helping Israel's enemies. Rachel Maddow did a story on it. She shows what is on CNN, MSNBC and on Fox at the same of time day... http://www.nbcnews.com/id/26315908/#51283068 The entire clip is interesting but the network clips are after the 5 minute mark.

tweakabelle -> RE: Obama Honored With Israel`s Presidential Medal of Distinction. (3/22/2013 11:33:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Politesub53 quote: ORIGINAL: WantsOfTheFlesh quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle After delivering a glimmer of hope that his Presidency might be a welcome change from the usual US pattern of craven subservience to Zionists in Cairo 2009, his subsequent record of shameful surrender to AIPAC speaks for itself. Perhaps it should be taken as another indicator of the level of malice, hyperbole, paranoia and falsehood that is the stock in trade of Zionists lol maybe a pally supporter looked in tha mirror & mistaked it for tha reflection of a zionist? are tha lies bout tha e1 bisecting a pally state "malicious" too? http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_context=2&x_outlet=10&x_article=2358 Nice, a ProIsraeli reporting organisation, claiming the word accuracy. "lies" ????? Here's what respected Israeli newspaper 'Haaretz' had to say on the matter: "East Jerusalem project could bury two-state solution Plans to build in Area E-1 would effectively bisect the West Bank and sever the physical link between the Palestinian territories and Jerusalem." http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/east-jerusalem-project-could-bury-two-state-solution.premium-1.481799 or the UN Secretary-General Ban Ki Moon: " *The project to build new Jewish settlements near East Jerusalem are a "fatal blow" to the hopes of peace*, said the UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon yesterday." http://www.asianews.it/news-en/Ban-Ki-moon:-The-new-Israeli-settlements-kill-peace-26516.html Both of these quotes confirm the content and accuracy of my claims in post #9. I'll leave it readers to decide for themselves whether a prominent independent Israeli newspaper and the UN Secretary General are more credible than a rabidly pro-Zionist propaganda site.

WantsOfTheFlesh -> RE: Obama Honored With Israel`s Presidential Medal of Distinction. (3/23/2013 6:00:28 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Politesub53 quote: ORIGINAL: WantsOfTheFlesh quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle After delivering a glimmer of hope that his Presidency might be a welcome change from the usual US pattern of craven subservience to Zionists in Cairo 2009, his subsequent record of shameful surrender to AIPAC speaks for itself. Perhaps it should be taken as another indicator of the level of malice, hyperbole, paranoia and falsehood that is the stock in trade of Zionists lol maybe a pally supporter looked in tha mirror & mistaked it for tha reflection of a zionist? are tha lies bout tha e1 bisecting a pally state "malicious" too? http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_context=2&x_outlet=10&x_article=2358 Nice, a ProIsraeli reporting organisation, claiming the word accuracy. so ya think all pro israel organisations have to b liars? [8\|]

WantsOfTheFlesh -> RE: Obama Honored With Israel`s Presidential Medal of Distinction. (3/23/2013 6:19:28 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle quote: ORIGINAL: Politesub53 quote: ORIGINAL: WantsOfTheFlesh quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle After delivering a glimmer of hope that his Presidency might be a welcome change from the usual US pattern of craven subservience to Zionists in Cairo 2009, his subsequent record of shameful surrender to AIPAC speaks for itself. Perhaps it should be taken as another indicator of the level of malice, hyperbole, paranoia and falsehood that is the stock in trade of Zionists lol maybe a pally supporter looked in tha mirror & mistaked it for tha reflection of a zionist? are tha lies bout tha e1 bisecting a pally state "malicious" too? http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_context=2&x_outlet=10&x_article=2358 Nice, a ProIsraeli reporting organisation, claiming the word accuracy. "lies" ????? Here's what respected Israeli newspaper 'Haaretz' had to say on the matter: "East Jerusalem project could bury two-state solution Plans to build in Area E-1 would effectively bisect the West Bank and sever the physical link between the Palestinian territories and Jerusalem." http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/east-jerusalem-project-could-bury-two-state-solution.premium-1.481799 lol haaretz aint respected wit all the blowups bout its inaccuracy every few months. quote: or the UN Secretary-General Ban Ki Moon: " *The project to build new Jewish settlements near East Jerusalem are a "fatal blow" to the hopes of peace*, said the UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon yesterday." http://www.asianews.it/news-en/Ban-Ki-moon:-The-new-Israeli-settlements-kill-peace-26516.html Both of these quotes confirm the content and accuracy of my claims in post #9. I'll leave it readers to decide for themselves whether a prominent independent Israeli newspaper and the UN Secretary General are more credible than a rabidly pro-Zionist propaganda site. ban ki moon & tha un always condemned any construction in tha west bank & always said tha same thing about it ending pally hopes of a state. said that for yrs & yet apparently there is still hope of a pally state! pretty weird that. what ban says about it doesnt stand up ta scruteny. tha e1 was part of rabin's plan wit the olso accords & was part of tha clinton plan arafat was going to sign off on also. its a fact tha e1 is 15 km to tha jordan river so cannot bisect a state & it aint all that massive either, check http://www.poica.org/editor/case_studies/Metropolitan%20Jerusalem%20-%201.jpg [image]http://bbcwatchdot.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/map-e1-camera.png[/image]

tweakabelle -> RE: Obama Honored With Israel`s Presidential Medal of Distinction. (3/23/2013 6:27:21 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Owner59 "Israeli Apology Resets Alliance With Turkey" http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323419104578376352205848268.html Obama certainly deserves plaudits for knocking some heads together and reducing one source of tension in a region with more than its fair share of tensions. The cynic in me wonders whether both Turkey and Israel's motives are more about the Syrian situation and the Western push for regime change there than any sincere change of heart .... That said, credit where credit is due and Obama deserves some for his role.

WantsOfTheFlesh -> RE: Obama Honored With Israel`s Presidential Medal of Distinction. (3/23/2013 6:38:07 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle The cynic in me wonders whether both Turkey and Israel's motives are more about the Syrian situation and the Western push for regime change there than any sincere change of heart .... was thinking the same thing bout that, plus netanyahu needed ta give obama some sorta triumph for his visit.

Kirata -> RE: Obama Honored With Israel`s Presidential Medal of Distinction. (3/23/2013 6:56:30 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WantsOfTheFlesh was thinking the same thing bout that, plus netanyahu needed ta give obama some sorta triumph for his visit. I think it was inevitable in any case, because it's likely that Turkey figures into Israel's attack planning for Iran, either for use of its airspace or because of the proximity of Turkey's anti-missle systems to Iran. K.

Real0ne -> RE: Obama Honored With Israel`s Presidential Medal of Distinction. (3/23/2013 7:05:40 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle quote: The purpose of my OP was to snub the anti-Obamites....who seek to paint the President as an anti-Semite and anti Israel ....in the most retarded ways. It's mystifying that any one might feel a need to demonstrate that Obama isn't "an anti-Semite and anti Israel ....in the most retarded ways". After delivering a glimmer of hope that his Presidency might be a welcome change from the usual US pattern of craven subservience to Zionists in Cairo 2009, his subsequent record of shameful surrender to AIPAC speaks for itself. Perhaps it should be taken as another indicator of the level of malice, hyperbole, paranoia and falsehood that is the stock in trade of Zionists ohaha admittedly laughed a few weeks after he was in saying that it was just election rhetoric. There are no laws that these guys are required to keep a promise or even try to do what they claimed. Finally it goes to the treaties and agreements in place. the shit that comes out of their mouths is just that shit. People would know more about whats going on and why if they simply read all the us treaty agreements and concessions etc and let the spinsters spin because that is where the bear shits in the buckwheat. They can say any damn thing then when they get into office the attorneys nah we cant do that.

Real0ne -> RE: Obama Honored With Israel`s Presidential Medal of Distinction. (3/23/2013 7:06:40 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Kirata quote: ORIGINAL: WantsOfTheFlesh was thinking the same thing bout that, plus netanyahu needed ta give obama some sorta triumph for his visit. I think it was inevitable in any case, because it's likely that Turkey figures into Israel's attack planning for Iran, either for use of its airspace or because of the proximity of Turkey's anti-missle systems to Iran. K. israel is a crown proxy in the me

TravellerInLife -> RE: Obama Honored With Israel`s Presidential Medal of Distinction. (3/23/2013 7:33:16 AM)
Let's start with marriage equality. Obama swore an oath to "preserve, protect and defend the Constitution," hopefully other laws as well. He can't willy-nilly change everything on Day One. But judicial review gives him the go ahead to fight against laws he doesn't support. By the way, I believe this is why the President and First Lady gave up their right to practice law, justifying an action on his own legal opinion would be a conflict of interest. He requires outside review. Going into November 2008, some voters thought riches would be offered to them on silver platters. Uh.... no. Obama is not a communist, he believes people should work to succeed. The "hope and change" some claim was not delivered: people who work should not get smacked down because of race, religion, creed; they're welcome to participate in the functioning of this Country, their participation is not ignored.

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