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booklover13 -> RE: The Real and the Fake (3/24/2013 8:29:40 PM)
but my sense is that women in general are less likely to post on a site like this [/quote] Why is that your sense? Because "nice" women aren't into kink? [8\|]

curioushusband -> RE: The Real and the Fake (3/24/2013 8:38:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact Oddly enough, from what I've seen on the site from multiple years of reading threads, I find a number of women who related that a lot of males (no matter which side of the kneel) are considered in the 'fake' category because they are wannabes, fantasists, and using the BDSM angle to get laid. OP, you're not going to attract the cream of the crop here. I had a look at the profile to confirm My suspensions. Married dude, no offer of confirmation from your wife that you're not cheating, and no BDSM or D/s experience. How "real" do you think we're going to believe you are as opposed to 'guy who thought saying he was kinky would get him some strange on the side'? You miss my point Lady, I am not trying to make the case that you should take me seriously. Don't, I don't care (But I grant your point, there is no reason for you to take my profile as it was seriously. I understand that, and don't object to your conclusion).My point in this post is that most of the men on here who express an interest in dominance actually want that and are legit... even if they flake out and vanish, whereas most of the sub woman on here are ex boyfriends or husbands or whatever and not the women that they say they are. What I wonder about is the fakery that generally surrounds the self declared submissive women... most are men is my guess. alas.

curioushusband -> RE: The Real and the Fake (3/24/2013 8:48:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: xssve Sounds like you are really a husband looking for a way out of choices already made. good try, wrong read. life is more complex.

searching4mysir -> RE: The Real and the Fake (3/24/2013 8:57:56 PM)
quote: Men interested in being dominant who for whatever reason Just because they are interested in being dominant doesn't make it so. There are a ton of guys on this site who think that if they merely claim the title that the chicks will drop their panties for them. Being dominant is a character trait. You either are or are not dominant. Skills in topping, however, can be learned.

curioushusband -> RE: The Real and the Fake (3/24/2013 8:58:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: booklover13 but my sense is that women in general are less likely to post on a site like this Why is that your sense? Because "nice" women aren't into kink? [8\|] I wrote less likely, not that it would never happen. I take for granted that nice, nerdy, and dorky girls are into kink as well they should be, thank goodness. My only point is that that... dorky, nerdy, cute, funny... girls who are subs in particular are less likely to be legit (e.g. not their ex boyfriend posting their picture) on a site like this as opposed to dudes who declare their dominance (!!), whatever that means. I have no numbers or stats, but my guess is that the latter type of character are more likely than not real in their expression of interest whereas the former are more likely an angry boyfriend.

curioushusband -> RE: The Real and the Fake (3/24/2013 9:00:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: searching4mysir quote: Men interested in being dominant who for whatever reason Just because they are interested in being dominant doesn't make it so. There are a ton of guys on this site who think that if they merely claim the title that the chicks will drop their panties for them. Being dominant is a character trait. You either are or are not dominant. Skills in topping, however, can be learned. quote: My Fair enough. I get that.

LadyPact -> RE: The Real and the Fake (3/24/2013 9:01:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: curioushusband You miss my point Lady, I am not trying to make the case that you should take me seriously. Don't, I don't care (But I grant your point, there is no reason for you to take my profile as it was seriously. I understand that, and don't object to your conclusion).My point in this post is that most of the men on here who express an interest in dominance actually want that and are legit... even if they flake out and vanish, whereas most of the sub woman on here are ex boyfriends or husbands or whatever and not the women that they say they are. What I wonder about is the fakery that generally surrounds the self declared submissive women... most are men is my guess. alas. There's no way for you to have any relevant facts to back that up. "Piece on the side" isn't necessarily a legitimate interest in BDSM. Lots of guys just figure it's an easier way to get laid so the wife won't find out about it. Of course, My opinion is that, if said married guy really is Dominant, he'd tell his wife of his interests in the first place. A bit off topic, but that's My view. I've met a lot of folks from this joint over the years. (I stopped counting when that number hit 200.) Every munch group I've ever attended had a reasonable percentage of folks that have/had profiles on CM. That's never been terribly lopsided in any particular direction regarding gender or role.

xssve -> RE: The Real and the Fake (3/24/2013 9:06:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: curioushusband quote: ORIGINAL: xssve Sounds like you are really a husband looking for a way out of choices already made. good try, wrong read. life is more complex. So you really are just a curious husband? My bad.

needlesandpins -> RE: The Real and the Fake (3/25/2013 2:23:04 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: curioushusband Sexyred1, It is much less likely that people who pay for a profile on a website are going to be fake. Why? Because they are paying for it... If I can throw up a profile on a website on a whim, for fun, because I am bored... why not? If I have to pay to do so, I probably won't. actually that isn't true. i've been on paid sites where there just as many fakes as there are on here. you underestimate what guys will do to get their jollies.......which is odd seeing as how you are a guy....... most pay sites arn't hugely expencive in comparison to alot of things, so for a years membership they get to perve photos of people, go into chat, and rock their own world for very little per month. when it comes to sex you should never be surprised at what people will do to get that end result. needles

Zonie63 -> RE: The Real and the Fake (3/25/2013 7:09:03 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact "Piece on the side" isn't necessarily a legitimate interest in BDSM. Lots of guys just figure it's an easier way to get laid so the wife won't find out about it. I often read this here, but in my mind, it's hard to fathom. There are actually guys who think it's easier to get laid here than it is just by going into their local bar or walking down the street? I just can't see it. It would seem that they would be adding extra impediments and complications, not making it "easier." If one is looking to just get laid, there are plenty of avenues one can explore - and plenty of women just for that purpose alone, even if they're not into BDSM. I don't know if the OP was correct in his speculation about who is "real" and who is "fake," and the opinion that many of the fakes might be the result of angry ex-boyfriends seems a bit out of left field. As to what motivates a fake, whether they're here just to get laid or some other ulterior motive, that's also difficult to speculate, since no "fakes" have come forward to explain themselves (none that I'm aware of anyway).

OsideGirl -> RE: The Real and the Fake (3/25/2013 8:10:06 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Zonie63 I often read this here, but in my mind, it's hard to fathom. There are actually guys who think it's easier to get laid here than it is just by going into their local bar or walking down the street? I just can't see it. It would seem that they would be adding extra impediments and complications, not making it "easier." It's not really hard to fathom. They think a submissive woman will just do what she is told and do whatever he wants. They get lucky enough on the "meat and greets" (usually newbies) that they keep trying.

LadyPact -> RE: The Real and the Fake (3/25/2013 8:28:58 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Zonie63 I often read this here, but in my mind, it's hard to fathom. There are actually guys who think it's easier to get laid here than it is just by going into their local bar or walking down the street? I just can't see it. It would seem that they would be adding extra impediments and complications, not making it "easier." If one is looking to just get laid, there are plenty of avenues one can explore - and plenty of women just for that purpose alone, even if they're not into BDSM. It's hard for Me to get too, but that also has something to do with Me not having a cheater's mentality. Seems to happen often enough, though. I read more than enough posts on the Ask A Submissive board about what to do if you find out that 'master' is married or the infamous 'we had sex and now master doesn't talk anymore' type of threads. Quite a few mentions of women, particularly those with not a lot of lifestyle experience, that accept the fact that they have never seen the guy's home or that they aren't allowed to ask questions about their personal life. Heck, we had one thread where the chick didn't know the last name of the guy she had been sleeping with for two years. Have you seen the number of threads that come up from men that need ideas for places to play (read as fuck) because they can't host? If I did have a cheater's mentality, I'm thinking kink would be a safer bet than somebody I'd have to be seen with in public much.

Zonie63 -> RE: The Real and the Fake (3/25/2013 10:48:43 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact quote: ORIGINAL: Zonie63 I often read this here, but in my mind, it's hard to fathom. There are actually guys who think it's easier to get laid here than it is just by going into their local bar or walking down the street? I just can't see it. It would seem that they would be adding extra impediments and complications, not making it "easier." If one is looking to just get laid, there are plenty of avenues one can explore - and plenty of women just for that purpose alone, even if they're not into BDSM. It's hard for Me to get too, but that also has something to do with Me not having a cheater's mentality. Seems to happen often enough, though. I read more than enough posts on the Ask A Submissive board about what to do if you find out that 'master' is married or the infamous 'we had sex and now master doesn't talk anymore' type of threads. Quite a few mentions of women, particularly those with not a lot of lifestyle experience, that accept the fact that they have never seen the guy's home or that they aren't allowed to ask questions about their personal life. Heck, we had one thread where the chick didn't know the last name of the guy she had been sleeping with for two years. Have you seen the number of threads that come up from men that need ideas for places to play (read as fuck) because they can't host? If I did have a cheater's mentality, I'm thinking kink would be a safer bet than somebody I'd have to be seen with in public much. Yes, I can see your point. I'm not denying that it happens. Obviously, there are fakes, phonies, and cheaters all over the place, so it clearly does happen. I was just curious as to how someone could think it's easier to get laid on a BDSM site as opposed to the plethora of other sites out there designed specifically for the purpose of meeting and hooking up - not to mention any bar or public venue or any of the old-fashioned pre-internet methods. (Oddly enough, I even remember hearing about single guys who would go to bars wearing wedding bands - because they thought that it would be easier to get laid that way.) I don't have a cheater's mentality either, but maybe they also feel an element of challenge. Perhaps they're not necessarily looking for the easy lay, but if they're already the kind who would cheat, then perhaps they would derive some utility or satisfaction out of tricking and manipulating someone under these circumstances. Not because it's easy, but because it may be seen as more of a challenge. So, there may also be a certain predatory aspect I didn't previously consider. Still, it pays to be wary over the internet, just as much as one should be in real life. People tend to use their computers in comfortable, familiar surroundings, and perhaps it creates a false sense of security when dealing with people over the internet. If people pretended they were in a dark alley surrounded by bums, creeps, and other lowlifes, then maybe they wouldn't be so trusting.

OsideGirl -> RE: The Real and the Fake (3/25/2013 11:04:49 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Zonie63 quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact quote: ORIGINAL: Zonie63 I often read this here, but in my mind, it's hard to fathom. There are actually guys who think it's easier to get laid here than it is just by going into their local bar or walking down the street? I just can't see it. It would seem that they would be adding extra impediments and complications, not making it "easier." If one is looking to just get laid, there are plenty of avenues one can explore - and plenty of women just for that purpose alone, even if they're not into BDSM. It's hard for Me to get too, but that also has something to do with Me not having a cheater's mentality. Seems to happen often enough, though. I read more than enough posts on the Ask A Submissive board about what to do if you find out that 'master' is married or the infamous 'we had sex and now master doesn't talk anymore' type of threads. Quite a few mentions of women, particularly those with not a lot of lifestyle experience, that accept the fact that they have never seen the guy's home or that they aren't allowed to ask questions about their personal life. Heck, we had one thread where the chick didn't know the last name of the guy she had been sleeping with for two years. Have you seen the number of threads that come up from men that need ideas for places to play (read as fuck) because they can't host? If I did have a cheater's mentality, I'm thinking kink would be a safer bet than somebody I'd have to be seen with in public much. Yes, I can see your point. I'm not denying that it happens. Obviously, there are fakes, phonies, and cheaters all over the place, so it clearly does happen. I was just curious as to how someone could think it's easier to get laid on a BDSM site as opposed to the plethora of other sites out there designed specifically for the purpose of meeting and hooking up - not to mention any bar or public venue or any of the old-fashioned pre-internet methods. (Oddly enough, I even remember hearing about single guys who would go to bars wearing wedding bands - because they thought that it would be easier to get laid that way.) I don't have a cheater's mentality either, but maybe they also feel an element of challenge. Perhaps they're not necessarily looking for the easy lay, but if they're already the kind who would cheat, then perhaps they would derive some utility or satisfaction out of tricking and manipulating someone under these circumstances. Not because it's easy, but because it may be seen as more of a challenge. So, there may also be a certain predatory aspect I didn't previously consider. Still, it pays to be wary over the internet, just as much as one should be in real life. People tend to use their computers in comfortable, familiar surroundings, and perhaps it creates a false sense of security when dealing with people over the internet. If people pretended they were in a dark alley surrounded by bums, creeps, and other lowlifes, then maybe they wouldn't be so trusting. As a sub woman, I can tell you the mentality from these guys is that a submissive female is easy prey, especially novices. When I was single and looking, a large chunk of the guys expected to get laid/play the moment we met. Out of the guys I met, even after telling them that I don't play or have sex on the first meeting.....I would say at least half STILL expected to get laid/play that day after making a token public meeting.

sexyred1 -> RE: The Real and the Fake (3/25/2013 11:42:23 AM)
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sexyred1 -> RE: The Real and the Fake (3/25/2013 11:46:36 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sexyred1 quote: ORIGINAL: curioushusband quote: ORIGINAL: booklover13 but my sense is that women in general are less likely to post on a site like this Why is that your sense? Because "nice" women aren't into kink? [8\|] I wrote less likely, not that it would never happen. I take for granted that nice, nerdy, and dorky girls are into kink as well they should be, thank goodness. My only point is that that... dorky, nerdy, cute, funny... girls who are subs in particular are less likely to be legit (e.g. not their ex boyfriend posting their picture) on a site like this as opposed to dudes who declare their dominance (!!), whatever that means. I have no numbers or stats, but my guess is that the latter type of character are more likely than not real in their expression of interest whereas the former are more likely an angry boyfriend. You are really naive or just dense. You claim that men who are online who say they are dominant are real, EVEN if they do not follow through and thst most sub women are fake because someone else posted their photo/profile? Are you serious? There are people all over the Internet, kink or vanilla sites, paid or not and invariably, there will be some who lie. There will also be many who are just not into you. In both cases, these people are real; real liars or really not into married men like you. So stop with the insane speculation that all men are real and really dominant, because many men use that title loosely thinking it will get them laid easier. How do I know this? Because I get emails from men on vanilla sites who saw me here and they act way too excited about the discovery, as of they now know something really dirty about me. Then I see THEM on this site, because now they think it will be an easier score. They don't have a dominant bone in their bodies.

kalikshama -> RE: The Real and the Fake (3/25/2013 12:20:05 PM)
Everyone I've met for coffee, lunch, or dinner has been real.

mnottertail -> RE: The Real and the Fake (3/25/2013 12:26:29 PM)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxVLHaHUI4E

OhPleaseDaddy -> RE: The Real and the Fake (3/25/2013 3:25:55 PM)
Men like to talk about sex. Females get more messages and sexy talk on this website. Men pretend to be women, talk about sex, get off on it. If it's a guy posting his ex's pictures of whatever, then he's just pathetic and should be pitied. He's being told how hot his EX GIRLFRIEND IS while he's on the internet trying to deny his homosexual urges. Whatever. [image]http://i46.tinypic.com/2lx8fg1.jpg[/image]

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