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TheBanshee -> Family Drama (3/3/2013 4:04:49 PM)

I'm not really sure if I'm asking for advice but I need to vent a little anyway -

My mom recently moved near my daughter - a few hours drive from me. Mom is getting up there in age - and getting a little more difficult as she ages. My daughter and mom have become a lot closer since mom moved - when my daughter was younger mom and she did not really get along. My daughter is now married, and has two kids. Her youngest is a toddler who has reached the terrible twos and my daughter works full time, runs after the toddler, takes care of the older child, keeps after her home and her husband (he works two jobs). They don't have it easy. My daughter thought it would be nice to drive up here and maybe relax for a weekend. She didn't anticipate driving with my mom would become an ordeal. The drive should be 3 hours. It turned into over 5 - mom wanted to stop three times for rest stops, wanted to stop at a store before actually getting to my house. The two year old was at this time cranky and crying and wanted out. Finally they get here. My daughter is stressed - wanting to just get settled.
Mom wants to go out to dinner. Casual place down the street? No she doesn't want to go there. Pizza? No. Let's go to the (insert franchise name here), a 15 minute drive away. We get there. A One hour wait. I didn't want to stay but mom wanted to eat there. My daughter didn't want to stay. We pass the time and the toddler wants to run around the waiting area and lying on the floor. My daughter is about ready to have a panic attack - she was just done. We finally get seated. We order. We get the high chair. The child is okay for a short while. My daughter spends most of the dinner trying to entertain the baby (I'm helping too mind you - but she wants her mother at this time). The meal is nice but it is drawn out - salad, soup, entree, the child is overtired and doesn't want to sit and behave.

Then Mom says "I'm just getting to old to deal with this".

First, the baby was not really being bad - she was tired and needed to get to bed. Expecting her to sit through a meal IMO was asking too much of a two year old. My daughter was doing a good job keeping the baby entertained and not bothering other tables but that became her job during the dinner and wasn't able to enjoy the meal at all herself. I too was helping entertaining the baby (although I enjoyed entertaining her I hadn't seen her in a while but my daughter was worried about the baby disturbing other people).

After that comment from Mom there is a LOT of tension but even that passes a bit when we get home. Mom was staying elsewhere so things eased up a bit. My daughter is in tears though - she works hard, her husband is a good guy but he works all the time too and she's got the two kids and the baby is going through the terrible twos. She is a great mom but she had had a particularly rough week. Mom and I were going to be going another family event and I suggested to my daughter - let me take the baby - you go to a movie with your sister, get your nails done, just do whatever for a couple of hours. My daughter was happy with that idea. I wanted her to have a little time for herself.

Mom comes over so we are going to the family event and I tell her I will be taking the baby and she says "Oh, she's going to want her mother after we're there 10 minutes!!"
My daughter gets upset again - "never mind, leave the baby here" Full martyr mode. My mom goes on with her words of wisdom of how she should be handling the two year old.

I love my mom and my daughter. I feel for my daughter - she goes from morning to night and she doesn't get much help.

Mom always means well - she really does - but she will always say the wrong thing and makes it about her. She insisted on going to the restaurant and then was put off because the baby wasn't easy there - but she doesn't get it that it was never a good idea in the first place.

I think I want to move to that moon station sometimes.











Baroana -> RE: Family Drama (3/3/2013 4:10:07 PM)

Why did your mom come with your daughter? It sounded like she needed a break from your mom just as much as she needed a break from everything else. By the way, when you say your mom is "up there," how old are we talking?

Edited to add:

Old people and toddlers. Either they don't mix, or the old folks can't get enough of them. If your mother is in the former category, then proceed accordingly to avoid train wrecks in the future.




TheBanshee -> RE: Family Drama (3/3/2013 4:21:25 PM)

My mom came with my daughter because it was actually a coincidence - my daughter was planning on coming up just to spend a little time with me and mom was coming for the family event - so they thought they'd come together. Also, we didn't want my mom to drive by herself (she is still a good driver but she is almost 80).





Kaliko -> RE: Family Drama (3/3/2013 4:24:30 PM)

"I can't wash my hair at your house. The water in New Hampshire leaves a film on me."

"You know, my friends' children all have second houses and beautiful cars. Where did I go wrong with you?"

"Boy, (my ex-husband's name) looks good. I mean, he looks really good. I mean, wow, I can't get over how great he looks."


Mothers.





Baroana -> RE: Family Drama (3/3/2013 4:26:25 PM)

"Should you be eating that?"




MissToYouRedux -> RE: Family Drama (3/3/2013 4:33:23 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Kaliko


Mothers.





Trust me, older dads have their moments, too. [&:]




Baroana -> RE: Family Drama (3/3/2013 4:35:01 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: TheBanshee

My mom came with my daughter because it was actually a coincidence - my daughter was planning on coming up just to spend a little time with me and mom was coming for the family event - so they thought they'd come together. Also, we didn't want my mom to drive by herself (she is still a good driver but she is almost 80).





That sure does suck!

Of course, you knew from the start what you were in for taking four generations out to dinner. Hopefully in the future you'll have some way to strategically leave one of the generations at home.




Kaliko -> RE: Family Drama (3/3/2013 4:41:08 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Baroana

"Should you be eating that?"



Ha! Yes!!!





angelikaJ -> RE: Family Drama (3/3/2013 4:46:38 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Baroana


quote:

ORIGINAL: TheBanshee

My mom came with my daughter because it was actually a coincidence - my daughter was planning on coming up just to spend a little time with me and mom was coming for the family event - so they thought they'd come together. Also, we didn't want my mom to drive by herself (she is still a good driver but she is almost 80).





That sure does suck!

Of course, you knew from the start what you were in for taking four generations out to dinner. Hopefully in the future you'll have some way to strategically leave one of the generations at home.


Or setting a limit or boundary with mom regarding which restaurant is most likely to be a successful experience for everyone.




LaTigresse -> RE: Family Drama (3/3/2013 4:46:47 PM)

Knowing what others go through makes me glad I have a crazy old lady that only ever thinks about herself and her problems and rarely wants to visit her kids, grandkids, and great grandkids.........for a mother. I've seen her twice (two trips worth, she lives in Colorado near my youngest brother) in 10 years or more.




Baroana -> RE: Family Drama (3/3/2013 4:53:03 PM)

I'm such a little phucker. This is what I would say back to my mom if she handed me that shit:


quote:

ORIGINAL: Kaliko

"I can't wash my hair at your house. The water in New Hampshire leaves a film on me."



The water says ditto back to you.


quote:

ORIGINAL: Kaliko

"You know, my friends' children all have second houses and beautiful cars. Where did I go wrong with you?"




Your friends' children are probably in debt up to their fucking eyeballs. They probably got those things just to make their parents shut the hell up.


quote:

ORIGINAL: Kaliko


"Boy, (my ex-husband's name) looks good. I mean, he looks really good. I mean, wow, I can't get over how great he looks."




Good, mom. I think you should sext him.




Baroana -> RE: Family Drama (3/3/2013 4:55:06 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

Knowing what others go through makes me glad I have a crazy old lady that only ever thinks about herself and her problems and rarely wants to visit her kids, grandkids, and great grandkids.........for a mother. I've seen her twice (two trips worth, she lives in Colorado near my youngest brother) in 10 years or more.



My father's parents were like that.




Kaliko -> RE: Family Drama (3/3/2013 4:57:37 PM)

Naah...I just kind of take it. She's good to me in a lot of ways. But...yeah...she doesn't really have a filter when she talks.

(Though your last suggestion was funny. :)




Baroana -> RE: Family Drama (3/3/2013 4:59:49 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Kaliko

Naah...I just kind of take it. She's good to me in a lot of ways. But...yeah...she doesn't really have a filter when she talks.

(Though your last suggestion was funny. :)



You have the patience of a saint.




Notsweet -> RE: Family Drama (3/3/2013 5:01:30 PM)

I think I've had two out of those three conversations with my mother at some point.

She's been gone two years. I miss the bitch. She would say, "Queen bitch."




LaTigresse -> RE: Family Drama (3/3/2013 5:06:44 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Notsweet

I think I've had two out of those three conversations with my mother at some point.

She's been gone two years. I miss the bitch. She would say, "Queen bitch."


If not for the 'gone two years' I would wonder if you were my daughter....




littlewonder -> RE: Family Drama (3/3/2013 6:46:33 PM)

It sounds like both you and your daughter need to set boundaries with your mom. You both need to tell her that sometimes your daughter has way more to handle than she can sometimes deal with and she needs a break sometimes.

Next time, you both need to say "no...we can't go out far away. The baby is tired, I'm tired and it's been a long drive and we all need to sleep" and stuff like that. Tell her it's the final word and that if she wants to go or do something when you both can't or won't, she is more than welcome to go alone and hand her the keys to the car.

You both need to speak up and let her know how it's going to be. Yeah, she'll get mad for a little bit and pout but she will get over it. It's not all about her.




theRose4U -> RE: Family Drama (3/3/2013 7:15:15 PM)

I'd be super polite & offer a nice warm cup of shut the fuck up!




erieangel -> RE: Family Drama (3/3/2013 7:53:28 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: littlewonder

It sounds like both you and your daughter need to set boundaries with your mom. You both need to tell her that sometimes your daughter has way more to handle than she can sometimes deal with and she needs a break sometimes.

Next time, you both need to say "no...we can't go out far away. The baby is tired, I'm tired and it's been a long drive and we all need to sleep" and stuff like that. Tell her it's the final word and that if she wants to go or do something when you both can't or won't, she is more than welcome to go alone and hand her the keys to the car.

You both need to speak up and let her know how it's going to be. Yeah, she'll get mad for a little bit and pout but she will get over it. It's not all about her.




Ditto

Put your foot down

Sometimes dealing with an old person is similar to dealing with the 2 year old.




DomMeinCT -> RE: Family Drama (3/3/2013 7:58:47 PM)

I think you need to plan for the least common denominator (and I mean that in a good way): Your grandchildren.
After hours of driving, sitting in any restaurant for a protracted amount of time is the last thing a toddler is able to do.
Why not just have dinner ready for the night they get there and if your mom insists on going out, she can drive herself.

"Sorry Mom, we can't go out, I've already made dinner."




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