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Owner59 -> Gun nutter`s "Day of Resistance" Sputters.... (2/23/2013 9:50:32 PM)

http://aattp.org/gun-nuts-fail-to-turn-out-on-day-of-resistance/



"At the “Western New York Day of Resistance,” the turnout was sad enough to make one person shed some tears. The following post could be found on their Facebook page.

“I was very alone in Corning N.Y. today. I honestly thought more people cared about our 2nd Amendment. My Father, who could not attend due to a doctor’s appointment, called and asked how it was going. I sent him a picture of just me standing there. I think he cried a little, I know I did.”

Also on that Facebook page were posts lamenting the poor turnouts in Albany and in Buffalo. This is in a state that just last month passed the nation’s strictest gun control laws.

Down in North Carolina, this video was taken of a bunch of forlorn looking people standing around, waiting for something exciting to happen. Hardly the scene we’d expect to see from a group of freedom and gun-loving patriots!

At the Georgia State Capitol, a reported 4 people showed up.

On the National Protests Against Obama Facebook page, were posts like these…

“No one showed here in MT, well except for me!”

“I stood in Olympia Washington by myself for like an hour”

“A little over a dozen in Colorado”

“Wife and I drove 30 miles to St. Paul MN. Only a few people were there at 11:15 a.m. Depressing.”

“I drove to Oklahoma City, no one there. So disappointed.”




Kirata -> RE: Gun nutter`s "Day of Resistance" Sputters.... (2/23/2013 11:03:35 PM)


Never even heard about it. But while a very fast search failed to find Olympia or St.Paul (mentioned in your link) on the official list of locations, it did find stories of people turning up elsewhere...

Florence, KY
More than 1,000 attended in Florence...
Bakersfield, CA
Hundreds of anti-gun control activists gathered...
Houston, TX
Hundreds gathered...
Clarksburg, WV
The Progressive Women's Association of Harrison County was filled with people joining in...
Sevierville, TN
Hundreds of people attended...

Shrug.

K.




Owner59 -> RE: Gun nutter`s "Day of Resistance" Sputters.... (2/23/2013 11:27:01 PM)

The reports says "hundreds"......in KY.

What other rallies are the nutty-gunners exaggerating?



This was an epic fail as are your attempts at obfuscation





Owner59 -> RE: Gun nutter`s "Day of Resistance" Sputters.... (2/23/2013 11:32:00 PM)

The anti-Obama clown parade also reveals the gunner-nut`s neurosis....


This has nothing to do who happens to be the president and pre-dates President Obama




igor2003 -> RE: Gun nutter`s "Day of Resistance" Sputters.... (2/24/2013 12:25:01 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59

The reports says "hundreds"......in KY.

What other rallies are the nutty-gunners exaggerating?



This was an epic fail as are your attempts at obfuscation




Can you cite which "reports" you are referring to which say there were "hundreds" in Kentucky? I looked at the site you linked to and didn't see any mention of Kentucky, and I looked at the site Kirata listed and it definitely said "over 1000". I'll admit it is late and I'm tired and my eyes are burning and I may have missed something.

I did notice that the link you posted was very "anti-gun" slanted and even included a photo of a guy holding a PhotoShopped sign to try to stress their point. Seems to me like if there is any "obfuscation" going on it isn't on the part of Kirata.

And, here is a link to a local news item about what took place in the state capitol building rotunda in Boise, Idaho today (I didn't know any rallies were taking place today until I saw this on the evening news.). http://www.kivitv.com/news/local/192777021.html




Nosathro -> RE: Gun nutter`s "Day of Resistance" Sputters.... (2/24/2013 2:33:06 AM)

Let's see so the US population is at about 313,914,040 and okay I'll generous say 3,000 showed up that puts it at about 0.09% yep that is really well attended.[:D]




Moonhead -> RE: Gun nutter`s "Day of Resistance" Sputters.... (2/24/2013 4:08:07 AM)

Maybe the more paranoid NRA elements were worried that The Man would take their guns if they turned up for one of these things?




Kirata -> RE: Gun nutter`s "Day of Resistance" Sputters.... (2/24/2013 5:21:21 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Nosathro

Let's see so the US population is at about 313,914,040 and okay I'll generous say 3,000 showed up that puts it at about 0.09% yep that is really well attended.[:D]

Yep yep yep, that's really good arithmetic.

K.




Nosathro -> RE: Gun nutter`s "Day of Resistance" Sputters.... (2/24/2013 6:37:17 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Kirata


quote:

ORIGINAL: Nosathro

Let's see so the US population is at about 313,914,040 and okay I'll generous say 3,000 showed up that puts it at about 0.09% yep that is really well attended.[:D]

Yep yep yep, that's really good arithmetic.

K.



Thank you and I bet they were all bused into Bakersfield too[;)]




Kirata -> RE: Gun nutter`s "Day of Resistance" Sputters.... (2/24/2013 6:59:31 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Nosathro
quote:

ORIGINAL: Kirata

that's really good arithmetic

Thank you

Dunning-Kruger.

K.




TricklessMagic -> RE: Gun nutter`s "Day of Resistance" Sputters.... (2/25/2013 9:55:29 AM)

I would never show up for one of these. It's a waste of time with the Internet making for a better source of organizing and operating. I can reach out to more people who are like minded through the internet then shouting and holding up signs at some march or get-together. Plus I had to work and make money. There are too many players trying to do too many things. Signing petitions about not voting for 2nd Amendment betraying politicians has more of an effect than standing in a group and chanting. No matter what cause it is for, it just looks silly nowadays. Holding luncheons and workshops about Pro-2nd Amendment topics and efforts is more effective. I am actually holding several workshops with attendance completely booked at fifteen people workshop (anymore and i probably wouldn't get much good done) and am focusing them on explaining the NFA and the current proposed anti-2nd Amendment attempts. Going to one's public library and borrowing a room for a three hour workshop and then letting folks know through the internet is an effective focus. Marches are a waste of time.




Owner59 -> RE: Gun nutter`s "Day of Resistance" Sputters.... (2/25/2013 10:10:09 AM)

This was a demonstration.....that,was the purpose.Not what you`re talking about.

I`m not sure though that getting the extreme NRA types together for finger sandwiches is going to convince or influence normal moderate Americans, not to vote for or suport stricter gun rules.

I mean really......how is chanting "Obama gonna take our guns" and other assorted personal insults of the president, going to sway anyone toward them?




Fellow -> RE: Gun nutter`s "Day of Resistance" Sputters.... (2/25/2013 11:44:52 AM)

Glass half full. Good news is some people showed up. The result is what one would pretty much expect. The US population is generally considered politically disorganized, in bad health, mentally and physically weak. Even people on this discussion board (who I respect) think the Constitution is just a historical artifact. Way to go Comrades, welcome to USSA.




TricklessMagic -> RE: Gun nutter`s "Day of Resistance" Sputters.... (2/25/2013 12:13:15 PM)

The three I held last year did not have NRA extreme types show up. Only two of the forty-five in total people I worked with were NRA members. Although I signed up twenty people to the NRA (I am NRA Certified Firearms Instructor), most were basic people with little to no knowledge of firearms. There were ten or so types that were flat out anti-gun and tried to have an argument with me and I politely explained they were welcome to their opinion but I wasn't going to stop what I was doing no matter how loud they yelled and one event i was forced to call the police because the anti-gunner nut made several concerning comments. Of the forty-five in total I helped eight get their concealed weapons permits so I really only brought eight into the fold so to speak and most of them were going to vote Obama anyways as they told me. They wanted guns to protect themselves but weren't ready to vote lockstep with Republicans to keep their rights, I smiled and took their money and spent it on reloading materials.

Demonstrations are useless once again at this time in our society. The Occupy Movement proved so many "quote" liberals and progressives are little more than useless lazy bums that use drugs and commit rape, bent on destroying property and robbing businessnes. All the Tea Party did was leave the sites they attended cleaner and in better order than when they arrived.

I prefer to work on projects, that while currently legal, show that any attempt at disarmament of the Americans would be a complete failure. And then distribute these tutorials to like minded people. Mind you those tutorials are hobbyist firearm based. In my purely fictional novels, which I freely distribute, I write about simple homemade IEDs. I explained to one workshop how easy it was to make an easy ANFO (Ammonium Nitrate Fuel Oil, simple stuff, although methyl nitrate would likely have to be added to it to make it sensitive enough to be detonated completely by a potassium chlorate primer) based IED out of instant ice/cool packs,nails, potassium chlorate (made with bleach and potassium chloride [easily purchase salt substitute]), the red phosphorus from the back of a matchbook, some acetone, and a very basic 9 Volt powered kitchen timer with a simple bulb from a christmas tree light set. They couldn't believe it was that easy, and I could only laugh and explain to them that that was the easiest one to make from a simple visit to the grocery store. I've never made one but the reality is right there. It would take a forty pound charges to accomplish anything but still a few tossed into the homes of traitors, or staged for traps and ambushes of pro-tyrannical forces and quislings, would be quite interesting. Only for the purposes of entertaining fiction, assuredly. Like my brother the liberals and progressives, we should happily embrace our chains and servitude Sieg Heil Mein Fuhrer.

Thank god most of the nuts out there like Chris Dorner have no imagination, balls, or follow-through. Most of the little bitches just ice themselves once things get tough, they don't even go out with a suicide vest, they just shoot themselves. Lets pray things don't get so bad that the real dangerous people are forced to act.




bossman777 -> RE: Gun nutter`s "Day of Resistance" Sputters.... (2/25/2013 12:33:16 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: TricklessMagic

I would never show up for one of these. It's a waste of time with the Internet making for a better source of organizing and operating. I can reach out to more people who are like minded through the internet then shouting and holding up signs at some march or get-together. Plus I had to work and make money.



Thanks for writing this. I really appreciate what you're saying. I was around and organized oppostion to the gun ban efforts back in the Clinton years when the internet was brand new. We used the old methods to organize and lobby our representatives. I think you're right, the internet has fundamentally altered the game. I always did feel that protests at the capitol on weekends (so people who worked could actually attend) were largely fruitless. Unless the anti-gun newsmedia gave you coverage, no one would even notice. I mean, look at the "Million Mom March" which had like only 100,000 show up, and some weeks before, the promise keepers had a rally in the same location with over half a million... the MoM got tons of coverage but no one ever heard of the much larger promise keeper rally.




DaNewAgeViking -> RE: Gun nutter`s "Day of Resistance" Sputters.... (2/25/2013 1:42:11 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Nosathro

Let's see so the US population is at about 313,914,040 and okay I'll generous say 3,000 showed up that puts it at about 0.09% yep that is really well attended.[:D]

Actually, the correct number would be 9.557 -6 - or .0000009557%. Even if it was ten times the 3000 you quote, the proportion is still so small as to be statistically unmeasurable by all the opinion polls. Just goes to show how much real support the fringe absolutists have compared to what they claim in their fever-dreams.
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freedomdwarf1 -> RE: Gun nutter`s "Day of Resistance" Sputters.... (2/25/2013 1:55:29 PM)

~FR

Seems to me there were far more people protesting on the streets in the Wall Street demonstrations than showed up for supporting the right to bear arms. [:D]




Kirata -> RE: Gun nutter`s "Day of Resistance" Sputters.... (2/25/2013 3:34:34 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: DaNewAgeViking
quote:

ORIGINAL: Nosathro

Let's see so the US population is at about 313,914,040 and okay I'll generous say 3,000 showed up that puts it at about 0.09% yep that is really well attended.[:D]

Actually, the correct number would be 9.557 -6 - or .0000009557%.

Actually...

9.557e-6 * 100 = 9.557e-4

K.




lovmuffin -> RE: Gun nutter`s "Day of Resistance" Sputters.... (2/25/2013 3:35:25 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1

~FR

Seems to me there were far more people protesting on the streets in the Wall Street demonstrations than showed up for supporting the right to bear arms. [:D]



Seems to me I recall a massive Republican victory in the House of Representatives because of Clinton's Assault Weapon Ban and ever since, the Dems seem to shy away from the issue of gun control. Even now and even after Sandy Hook the Dems seem to be gun shy. I can see the probability of shoring up background checks and bringing mental health into it but I would doubt much else.


Then there is a development in the last few days of an internal justice department memo obtained by the NRA pondering the notion that the only way to get all the guns is to implement universal background checks and registration as a first step and then a massive gun buy back. The NRA is now using it in their add campaign. Far be it for me as a pro gun extremist to think a registration scheme could ever lead to confiscation.




JeffBC -> RE: Gun nutter`s "Day of Resistance" Sputters.... (2/25/2013 4:17:24 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1
Seems to me there were far more people protesting on the streets in the Wall Street demonstrations than showed up for supporting the right to bear arms. [:D]

There were... and there were also VASTLY more than reported in the media. If I was going to guess I'd say roughly 2 orders of magnitude more. So honestly I'm a bit mistrustful of media reports like this. But it hardly matters. I think sooner or later the tea party and the occupiers are going to find out they are on the same side fighting the same fight against the same enemy.




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