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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

as distasteful as it may be, it works like this.

the government only has authority over the entities it created.

So it can say that any company or corporation formed under it like a hospital has to hire and use who ever is available, however privately you have the right to discriminate all you want against whom ever or whatever you want.

Its called the freedom to choose.

this whole thread to me glows in the dark with ignorance..

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ORIGINAL: RacerJim

My, my, my...whatever happened to pro-choice?

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl
Depending on the ability of the hospital to staff their maternity ward and NICU to accommodate the request, I think it should have been allowed. If there was always a racially diverse staff anyway, then, what's the problem? I would have much rather you included that part where I stated that had there been an inconvenience to the hospital, I could easily see the patient being charged more.
Charge more? This isnt about money on that end. And what insurance company will cover that extra charge? In order to accommodate his request, the hospital now has to amend their chedule to aldo include racial as well as the knowledge base?

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So we now have to racially profile the nursing staff, respiratory therapy, lab, house keeping, dietary... this isnt just about the nursing staff.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl
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On a personal note. I cannot, for the life of me, fathom why a nurse with the same credentials as me, the same training, who took and passed the same nursing exam as me, who is equally as trained as I am, would be inferior simply because of his/her skin color.

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Yes, charge more. I can't see an insurance company covering the extra charge, either. Thus, it would fall upon the patient.

Should the hospital be forced to go out of its way to fill the requests of racial discriminators? No. But, if there was already a diverse nursing staff, this would easily have been accommodated. If there isn't a diverse nursing staff, than this patient was SOL. Hospitals should continue to follow their quality guidelines with regards to hiring. If that request couldn't be filled, then someone would have to make him understand the reality of the situation.

Was it an unreasonable request? IMO, absolutely. Was it made by some fuckstick? Again, I think so. Should the hospital *have* to comply? No. If the hospital could have complied without scheduling and/or hiring changes, then, it could have complied if it wanted to.

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If that's what you think I said, you're way the fuck wrong.

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ORIGINAL: SadistDave

By law you cannot discriminate based on race, sex, or religion, etc.. However women are not forced to have male doctors or nurses. Muslims are not forced to have Jewish doctors or nurses. Therefore there is clearly a precident that suggests that discrimination is perfectly acceptable in some cases.

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One in three doctors in a 2007 survey said they felt patients believed they got better care if they matched their doctor's race. Patients' requests were more likely to be honored if the request came from someone who was female, non-white or Muslim, according to a report on the survey written in part by a University of Michigan researcher.

But just how often hospitals receive requests based on race is unclear.

Vickie Winn, a spokeswoman for Children's Hospital of Michigan, said the hospital may try to accommodate a patient's request for providers with a certain religion or gender, but a request for a doctor based on race is different, she said.

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ORIGINAL: SadistDave
From page 2 of the OPs article:

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One in three doctors in a 2007 survey said they felt patients believed they got better care if they matched their doctor's race. Patients' requests were more likely to be honored if the request came from someone who was female, non-white or Muslim, according to a report on the survey written in part by a University of Michigan researcher.
But just how often hospitals receive requests based on race is unclear.
Vickie Winn, a spokeswoman for Children's Hospital of Michigan, said the hospital may try to accommodate a patient's request for providers with a certain religion or gender, but a request for a doctor based on race is different, she said.

(Emphasis mine)
According to Vickie Winn, her hospital picks and chooses which discriminatory requests her hospital will honor. So, legal or not it is common practice, at least in some Michigan hospitals. Now... I emphasized part of that because apparently Miss Winn feels it's perfectly acceptable to grant these race based requests to everyone except males, or those belonging to special religions. So clearly her hospital already has bigoted policies. Honoring a request by a white person based on race is really not a different thing at all no matter how much she claims that it is... It's apparently acceptable practice to 1/3 of the states doctors. The long and short of it is that her hospital gets away with being bigoted against white males of certain religions by refusing to grant their requests as often as non-whites of special religions because no one will call her on it.
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"Mr. Fuckwit, we understand your request, however, we are unable to honor it within our normal staffing. However, private nurses can be brought in meeting your requirements, and they will cost you $2000 a day, and we doubt your insurance will cover it, so you must pay in advance weekly. If you are unable to do that, then I'm sorry, we will not be able to honor your request."