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RE: Is it true that coating eggs in mineral oil will ma... - 2/6/2013 12:43:24 PM   
mnottertail


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Status: offline 		mineral oil is not toxic, not all constituents of petroleum are toxic.

Mineral oil is a gentle laxitive among other uses.

Sodium is toxic. Cloride is toxic.  Table salt is not.

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RE: Is it true that coating eggs in mineral oil will ma... - 2/6/2013 12:57:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		Waterglass, sodium silicate, was used to keep eggs fresh. My grandmother had a large crock full of waterglass and several dozen eggs in their kitchen. At the time the family raised chickens for eggs and meat, selling most of the output on an 'egg route'

From Wikipedia: Sodium silicate was also used as an egg preservation agent in the early 20th century with large success. When fresh eggs are immersed in it, bacteria which cause the eggs to spoil are kept out and water is kept in. Eggs can be kept fresh using this method for up to five months. When boiling eggs preserved this way, it is well advised to pin-prick the egg to allow steam to escape because the shell is no longer porous.

There are varieties of food grade Mineral Oil. Mostly used for cutting boards and butcher blocks. But it is also used in some food.
Again from Wikipedia: it is occasionally used in the food industry, particularly for candy. In this application, it is typically used for the glossy effect it produces, and to prevent the candy pieces from adhering to each other. It has been discouraged for use in children's foods, though it is still found in many candies, including Swedish Fish. The use of food grade mineral oil is self-limiting because of its laxative effect. The maximum daily intake is calculated to be about 100 mg, of which some 80 mg are contributed from its use on machines in the baking industry.

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RE: Is it true that coating eggs in mineral oil will ma... - 2/6/2013 1:01:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		I rarely get egg shells into my pan or griddle, no. If the problem was then the yolks running across the oiled surface, i'd use lard, or I'd break open only one end of the egg and have everything run out the ass of the egg. Or just not worry about it super much lol.




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So, you're capable of never letting the the interior of the egg touch the egg shell when you crack them and you never get egg shell in anything that you're making......



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RE: Is it true that coating eggs in mineral oil will ma... - 2/6/2013 1:28:17 PM   
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Well I'd think that a bit of oil in my egg would be the least of my worries if doomsday volcano zombies were knocking about outside.


I aint so much worried about zombies, since they are undead, and there is no way to reanimate a corpse.

I have prepared in my own way for anything that is actually survivable. Considering the half life of nuclear weapon fallout, if a nuclear war happens, we all be screwed.

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RE: Is it true that coating eggs in mineral oil will ma... - 2/6/2013 2:12:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		There are people with plans in place for that. Fall out shelters are one, portable tents made specifically to cover and protect from fall out particulates.
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I have prepared in my own way for anything that is actually survivable. Considering the half life of nuclear weapon fallout, if a nuclear war happens, we all be screwed.


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RE: Is it true that coating eggs in mineral oil will ma... - 2/6/2013 2:15:05 PM   
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Sense the maximum ash fall where I live would be about a centimeter or less, with negligible health impact, I aint too concerned.

As far as climate change after such an eruption, I am too far south for anything more than a cooling of climate rather than year round snow.

The depth of ashfall in Texas would be dependent on the precise location of the jet stream and prevailing winds and air masses at the time of the eruption. Anything within 1000 miles of the caldera can expect significant accumulations of ash.

As to the eruption winter, you would expect it to last, worldwide, for 2 to 5 years. Krakatoa, which was at least an order of magnitude smaller, resulted in a ruined growing season across the enitre planet. It might not snow but it would make growing crops impossible, little to no sunlight, for several years.

This is why preppers make me laugh. Anything severe enough to take out the human civilization long term is not survivable by a few hardy souls living on a years supply of freeze dried food. At minimum you'd want 5 years of food for your group plus the same amount of livestock feed (and the actual livestock), basic farming equipment and sufficient non hybrid seeds to plant at least the first 2 to 3 years of crops. So basically tons of supplies per person.

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RE: Is it true that coating eggs in mineral oil will ma... - 2/6/2013 5:31:13 PM   
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You are already eating the menstrual product of a hen anyway so really.....can it get any grosser?

http://evolvecampaigns.org.uk/evolve/health.aspx?cat=eggs

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RE: Is it true that coating eggs in mineral oil will ma... - 2/6/2013 6:05:42 PM   
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Best to keep them in a safe and secure place while you're at it, lest the zombies get a hankering for some oily eggs.


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RE: Is it true that coating eggs in mineral oil will ma... - 2/9/2013 10:08:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		Maybe, but I'm not going to try it. No matter how good you are at cracking eggs you are still going to get mineral oil in your eggs. YUCK!

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RE: Is it true that coating eggs in mineral oil will ma... - 2/10/2013 2:55:45 AM   
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Maybe, but I'm not going to try it. No matter how good you are at cracking eggs you are still going to get mineral oil in your eggs. YUCK!

I swear this is how you guys make breakfast.

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RE: Is it true that coating eggs in mineral oil will ma... - 2/10/2013 3:40:03 AM   
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RE: Is it true that coating eggs in mineral oil will ma... - 2/10/2013 3:54:16 AM   
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There are people with plans in place for that. Fall out shelters are one, portable tents made specifically to cover and protect from fall out particulates.
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I have prepared in my own way for anything that is actually survivable. Considering the half life of nuclear weapon fallout, if a nuclear war happens, we all be screwed.


What the hell good are TENTS against nuclear fallout? It's not the contact that kills you, it's the RADIATION, finer particles in the air are still going to find a way in, and then you get that tingly, itchy, nauseated feeling. Even if you don't DIE your subsequent children are going to end up with severe limb deformities. Chernobryl showed us that.

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RE: Is it true that coating eggs in mineral oil will ma... - 2/10/2013 4:27:00 AM   
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I saw this little tip on a show called doomsday preppers, and the lady was showing how to preserve food to last longer than it normally would.


The best thing to do aside from freezing them in a larder or root cellar with snow/ice thrown in, would be DEHYDRATE the eggs, grind into a powder (not sure if they need to be COOKED first or what). I could see where a homesteader with hens might want to save the eggs, but preserving the raw product for other uses is a lot of work and the average person could just BUY powdered eggs which would have a much longer shelf-life. http://beprepared.com/product.asp?pn=FS%20D120&sid=GOOGLELA&EID=GLAFS%20D120&gclid=CN2U3NrXq7UCFYWo4AodqD8Atw

Considering that eggs are high in cholesterol (bad for you if eaten every day) and relatively low in protein, I'd rather put My efforts into preserving something healthier to carry Me through a longer period, such as fish, soybeans, etc, along with vitamin & mineral-rich vegetables and fruits.




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RE: Is it true that coating eggs in mineral oil will ma... - 2/10/2013 9:41:20 AM   
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Status: offline 		There are many different substances you can coat an egg with. Lard was the most accessible during the colonial period. Dip them in melted lard, allow to harden, redip a couple more times. Store in a root cellar.

And that's the most essential thing, a cellar dug into the ground which will remain at ground temperature during the winter, approximately 45 degrees. The further north you are, the closer your cellar comes to freezing.

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RE: Is it true that coating eggs in mineral oil will ma... - 2/10/2013 9:49:17 AM   
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I suppose some could leak through to the egg itself, but be it lard or mineral oil, I don't plan on eating the eggshells, so it shouldn't be a problem.
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Mineral oil is a petroleum product. Do you really want that on your food?


So, you're capable of never letting the the interior of the egg touch the egg shell when you crack them and you never get egg shell in anything that you're making......


Well I'd think that a bit of oil in my egg would be the least of my worries if doomsday volcano zombies were knocking about outside.

Because nothing says pre-zombie meal like a fresh omlette?? Wow

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RE: Is it true that coating eggs in mineral oil will ma... - 2/10/2013 10:57:48 AM   
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you actually use a stuff called 'isinglass' which you used to be able to get from pharmacies...............google it. It may still be around. Otherwise, try vaseline.................on the eggs I mean
Rob

Islinglass is made from fish bladders and it used to clarify beer and wine. You can find it at brew stores, but I doubt anywhere else.


And again, Vaseline is Petroleum Jelly.....a petroluem product.

Honestly, if you're going to rub oil on your eggs, there are better products to use than petroluem based products and they're just as cheap.

Yes, I understand that small amounts of mineral oil are considered okay to ingest, but for me it falls under the category of "Just because you can, doesn't mean you should".

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RE: Is it true that coating eggs in mineral oil will ma... - 2/10/2013 11:59:01 AM   
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And here's a link to how the pioneers preserved eggs.






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RE: Is it true that coating eggs in mineral oil will ma... - 2/10/2013 2:43:13 PM   
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Mineral oil is a petroleum product. Do you really want that on your food?

I was going to say, seems like Olive oil should work just as well.

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RE: Is it true that coating eggs in mineral oil will ma... - 2/10/2013 3:07:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		They're made out of special high tech material meant to protect you, they're not tents, like when you think camping crappy nylon tent. And then of course they'd put on radiation hazmat suits.
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What the hell good are TENTS against nuclear fallout? It's not the contact that kills you, it's the RADIATION, finer particles in the air are still going to find a way in, and then you get that tingly, itchy, nauseated feeling. Even if you don't DIE your subsequent children are going to end up with severe limb deformities. Chernobryl showed us that.

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RE: Is it true that coating eggs in mineral oil will ma... - 2/10/2013 3:11:29 PM   
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