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kdsub -> RE: I have a solution to the legal and illegal gun problem. (1/27/2013 10:03:49 AM)

If you want the absolute solution to federal gun laws just move to Missouri. Our state legislature is putting on the voting docket a new law that makes all new Federal gun laws illegal in the State of Missouri...

Simple solution by the simple minded Republican congress of Missouri... I am a proud resident of hillbilly heaven Mo.

Butch




kdsub -> RE: I have a solution to the legal and illegal gun problem. (1/27/2013 10:10:16 AM)

HERE

Butch




imdoingitagain -> RE: I have a solution to the legal and illegal gun problem. (1/27/2013 1:31:17 PM)


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ORIGINAL: kdsub

If you want the absolute solution to federal gun laws just move to Missouri. Our state legislature is putting on the voting docket a new law that makes all new Federal gun laws illegal in the State of Missouri...

Simple solution by the simple minded Republican congress of Missouri... I am a proud resident of hillbilly heaven Mo.

Butch


"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."




Real0ne -> RE: I have a solution to the legal and illegal gun problem. (1/27/2013 1:42:20 PM)


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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

It is actually a three stage plan.

1) Repeal The Posse Comitatus Act

2) Ban all legally purchased civilian guns.

3) Put federal troops on every street corner in every town and city.

Now granted this has some drawbacks, becoming a police state and all, but hey, considering the absurdly stubborn stand anti gun proponents have taken, this seems to be the only logical solution.



aw too bad Jeff but you missed it.

The police state has been created over 200 years ago with the creation of the constitution, or at least says John Marshal.

You must be talking about the prison state that is well under way this very moment while everyone is still sleeping.




Real0ne -> RE: I have a solution to the legal and illegal gun problem. (1/27/2013 1:45:56 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: kdsub

If you want the absolute solution to federal gun laws just move to Missouri. Our state legislature is putting on the voting docket a new law that makes all new Federal gun laws illegal in the State of Missouri...

Simple solution by the simple minded Republican congress of Missouri... I am a proud resident of hillbilly heaven Mo.

Butch



the state was created UNDER the and BY the approval of the United States and they think they have something that is enforceable?

bow wow wow! puppy chow!

good luck with that!




papassion -> RE: I have a solution to the legal and illegal gun problem. (1/27/2013 2:31:43 PM)

You want a solution to individuals owning guns? Just call your representatives and tell you want to change our government system. Tell them you want a system like Nazi Germany, communist Russia, China, etc. They won't allow anyone to own a gun. Problem solved!




thishereboi -> RE: I have a solution to the legal and illegal gun problem. (1/27/2013 3:42:27 PM)

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ORIGINAL: imdoingitagain


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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1
#3 - why bother with that? If there aren't the dangers with so many guns around, the odinary policeman can patrol his beat properly and efficiently.

The police wouldn't need guns either - for most crimes they can chase the criminals and use their night-sticks and handcuffs.
Police wouldn't be afraid of raiding known gangs either.


Wow, criminals and "known gangs" are quite accommodating in this proposed utopia...


Well I am sure when the cops show them their billy clubs they will all drop their guns and surrender [8|]





Just0Plain0Mike -> RE: I have a solution to the legal and illegal gun problem. (1/27/2013 4:19:41 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: kdsub

If you want the absolute solution to federal gun laws just move to Missouri. Our state legislature is putting on the voting docket a new law that makes all new Federal gun laws illegal in the State of Missouri...

Simple solution by the simple minded Republican congress of Missouri... I am a proud resident of hillbilly heaven Mo.



Unfortunately I suspect that will work just about as well as states voting to make drugs legal. There's already several vendors of medical marijuana under arrest by the feds, the latest Sandusky having been given 10 years earlier this month, even though they violated no state laws, and many others have been threatened with asset seizure.




BamaD -> RE: I have a solution to the legal and illegal gun problem. (1/27/2013 5:38:14 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Kirata


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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

I am not sure, but you seem to be describing a sci fi movie I saw once.

Ya think?

K.


That is how the reevers were created in Serenity




BamaD -> RE: I have a solution to the legal and illegal gun problem. (1/27/2013 5:43:38 PM)


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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1


quote:

ORIGINAL: jlf1961

It is actually a three stage plan.

1) Repeal The Posse Comitatus Act

2) Ban all legally purchased civilian guns.

3) Put federal troops on every street corner in every town and city.

Now granted this has some drawbacks, becoming a police state and all, but hey, considering the absurdly stubborn stand anti gun proponents have taken, this seems to be the only logical solution.


Here's a slightly modified idea -

#1 - yep, I agree with that.
#2 - change that to include ALL guns, legal or otherwise.
#3 - why bother with that? If there aren't the dangers with so many guns around, the odinary policeman can patrol his beat properly and efficiently.

And as I've said in another thread, there are those who will create hell because they can't go target shooting or hunting. Let them justify just one or two appropriate guns to do that with and let them keep the guns locked in a secure safe at the club.
And by 'appropriate', I mean a single-shot or semi-auto rifle. a similar hand gun or a shotgun.
Effectively, nobody would be allowed to keep guns at home.
Hunting? Go get the guns from the club, sign them out, sign a release certificate, go hunting, sign the gun back in at the club. Maximum of 5 days.

The police wouldn't need guns either - for most crimes they can chase the criminals and use their night-sticks and handcuffs.
Anyone caught with a gun without having a valid release certificate - instant arrest and 6 months in jail with no parole; the gun would be destroyed. Nobody goes hunting in the towns or cities so anyone caught with a gun within 2 miles of the town/city limits - same sentence.

Nasty critters in your garden??
Ring your local wildlife centre, zoo or local sheriff to come and deal with it.
There is no need to shoot it so no guns are necessary no matter where you live.

The only place you should ever see any other type of gun would be inside a military establishment.

The main and essential difference between that solution and what you have now is that no guns are allowed anywhere in/on the streets and you won't be allowed to keep guns at home.
That would also kill any problems with what safe to have for guns at home or how far your responsibility goes if they are stolen - quite simply, you shouldn't have guns at home, not even an air rifle!


There... problem solved.
No 'police' state.
No infringement of the 2nd.
No guns on the streets.
People can still legally own licensed guns for specific purposes.
Police wouldn't be afraid of raiding known gangs either.
Customs can still x-ray all imports to stop guns coming into the country.
The gun manufacturers can still make guns and keep some people employed.


Total destruction of the 2nd




jlf1961 -> RE: I have a solution to the legal and illegal gun problem. (1/27/2013 5:46:14 PM)

What I proposed was a total destruction of the 2nd, and dictating what kinds of weapons such as single shot shotguns is bull shit.




jlf1961 -> RE: I have a solution to the legal and illegal gun problem. (1/27/2013 9:34:21 PM)

Besides there are some extremists on both sides that actually think a police state is a good thing, on the right they include the ownership of guns, and on the left they eliminate the ownership of guns.

However once a perfect a handheld railgun that is not regulated under any law, the fun begins.




imdoingitagain -> RE: I have a solution to the legal and illegal gun problem. (1/27/2013 11:08:32 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


quote:

ORIGINAL: Kirata


quote:

ORIGINAL: jlf1961

I am not sure, but you seem to be describing a sci fi movie I saw once.

Ya think?

K.


That is how the reevers were created in Serenity

Finally, this thread gets interesting! Shiny.




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