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Linux - 1/12/2013 8:17:03 AM   
euroluv


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Status: offline 		Hi,
I am using Linux mint LMDE 64 bit and i love to be in the videochat and i cant use my cam and cant figure out how to work it tried several things but none work so i would love some help with this tY
greets euroluv
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RE: Linux - 1/12/2013 9:49:04 AM   
outlier


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Status: offline 		Welcome euroluv,

Since Mint is built on Ubuntu have you checked for anyone having
similar issues in the Ubuntu support pages and forums?


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RE: Linux - 1/14/2013 12:20:51 AM   
euroluv


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Status: offline 		no i have not thx for this tip am new on linux so am trying to figure it all out :) and am getting there but just not this part so any tip or solution is great ty so much .
quote:

Welcome euroluv,

Since Mint is built on Ubuntu have you checked for anyone having
similar issues in the Ubuntu support pages and forums?

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RE: Linux - 1/14/2013 6:25:37 AM   
euroluv


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Status: offline 		hi ,
thank You for the replay but the version mint i use is LMDE stands for linux mint debian edition so therefor not compatible with Ubuntu however i dont expect this site to provide technical help on these issues . and quit willing to seek support in the appropriate forums how ever i do not wish to name this site and there for my lifestyle aka privacy can someone give me information as to which software is being used .for the videochat and on what they run it on .or better still a vanilla vide ochatbox alternative .i am also willing to give feedback for other Linux users regarding this issue .
greets euroluv

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RE: Linux - 1/14/2013 11:52:05 AM   
outlier


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Status: offline 		Hello Again,

There are some things about linux and the way it is structured you need
to understand.  To simplify, Linux is a free operating system (a kernel) that
anyone can write code for to produce an operating system to fit their needs
and purposes.  These are called distributions and each has it's own name with
varying degrees of support structure. There are hundreds of them.

You can see them here: http://distrowatch.com/ 

Also from that website concerning linux Mint :

"Linux Mint is an Ubuntu-based distribution whose goal is to provide a more complete out-of-the-box experience by including browser plugins, media codecs, support for DVD playback, Java and other components. It also adds a custom desktop and menus, several unique configuration tools, and a web-based package installation interface. Linux Mint is compatible with Ubuntu software repositories." (emphasis added)

Now as to the relationship between Ubuntu and Debian this is from the Ubuntu site:

http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/ubuntu-and-debian

"Ubuntu and Debian are closely related.


Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian's architecture and infrastructure, but has a different community and release process.

About Debian


Debian is 'the rock upon which Ubuntu is built'...."

So you see Debian is the foundation, Ubuntu is built on Debian and Mint is built on Ubuntu.
The advantage of Ubuntu is that it is heavily financed and supported and has a LARGE
worldwide support community.  It is by far the most used distribution. And it is the distribution
that Mint is built on.  That is why I sent you to the Ubuntu support community. 


Send me an email on the other side and we can take this discussion off site.







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RE: Linux - 1/14/2013 12:51:23 PM   
outlier


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Status: offline 		One more thing that will probably be the most help.

If you go to the community section of the Mint website you will
find that there is a Linux Mint Nederland page.  It is here:

http://www.linuxmint.com/community.php?id=7

There you can contact local Mint users who are much more
likely to be able to help you than we are.  Best of luck!


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RE: Linux - 1/14/2013 7:44:09 PM   
MalcolmNathaniel


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Status: offline 		Welcome to the world of linux! There is a bit of a learning curve, but once you grok it, it's pretty straightforward.

So to make diagnosing the problem easier we need to know some information. I'll start with the hardware:

What brand and model of computer (assuming it's not a box built out of spare parts?)
Which camera?
Which video card?

Software: which version of mint are you using?
You find out this by typing "cat /etc/*-release"

Without the quotes.

The next step is to find out if the camera is even being recognized by the operating system.
To do this you type in "lsusb"

That stands for "LiSt USB devices."

You should see something that stands out as a camera. Maybe, depends on the model.

The next step is to tell us which program you are using for video chat. Without this information we are just grasping at straws as to how to fix your problem.

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RE: Linux - 1/15/2013 6:48:16 AM   
stellauk


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Status: offline 		Hi Euroluv

I'm a Linux user myself (Ubuntu 12.04 LTS) and I switched from Linux Mint because of compatibility issues with my graphics card.

Linux is its own operating system like Windows and Mac and it has its pros and cons. One of the pros is that you never have to look for a driver for your hardware, but one of the cons is that not all hardware is supported by Linux. If you've ever installed a Linux system and tried to hook up a Lexmark inkjet printer, you will know what I'm writing about here.

I'm not an expert, but I can make perhaps a few suggestions as an experienced Linux user.

It might be a hardware issue
You didn't say whether you can use your webcam with other applications, such as Skype, Cheese or VLC Media Player.

If you can't use your cam with anything, you might want to check both your cam and graphics card against the Linux Mint Hardware List which lists all the hardware which is compatible with the system.

http://community.linuxmint.com/hardware/search

If it's not listed, chances are that your cam isn't compatible with Mint, or with your flavour of Mint - which flavour are you using? LXDE? KDE? Gnome?

I'm assuming that your graphics card is compatible. In this case, you can either replace your cam with one from the list which is compatible, or you can reinstall your system from the Live DVD (assuming you installed from the Live CD) opting for LXDE or KDE which supports more hardware.

It's a similar situation with me in Ubuntu. I have an nVidia graphics card which gives both Linux Mint and the newer versions of Ubuntu problems, but with Ubuntu 12.04 LTS (long term support) my graphics card runs just fine.

You might be missing a library or dependency
I'm talking about a lib file. Your cam might be compatible with your version of Linux Mint, but there's an unresolved dependency (a missing file) or missing library which your system needs to point it to your cam.

If you haven't already, you might want to install the packages for Cheese and/or VLC Media Player from your Software Centre. The chances are that in installing these packages, the lib file needed will be part of the dependencies, and your webcam will start working.

Alternatively you could go into your Synaptic Package Manager, do a search for 'webcam' and see what comes up.

Before you do this however it's usually good to open up a terminal and as 'root' (or superuser) type in the following command:

$ sudo apt-get update

This will update all the packages in the repository.

It could be your browser
What browser are you using for the Internet? Have you tried to use your cam with a different browser? I'm finding Firefox resource hungry, so I tend to use Opera or Epiphany. Different browsers behave differently with your system.

I don't want to suggest ditching Mint unless you really feel you have to or want to, because it's one of the best Linux distros out there today. I'm only on Ubuntu because I need the multimedia capabilities which I have without needing to shell out for a Mac.

There are a couple of really good alternatives though such as Fedora and PCLInuxOS which I used a couple of years back and which was very stable and compatible with lots of hardware.

< Message edited by stellauk -- 1/15/2013 6:49:02 AM >

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RE: Linux - 1/15/2013 9:24:12 AM   
outlier


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Status: offline 		Not to Hijack,  but Stellauk are you aware of Ubuntu Studio?

'Ubuntu Studio is a variant of Ubuntu aimed at the GNU/Linux audio, video and graphic enthusiast
as well as professional. The distribution provides a collection of open-source applications available
for multimedia creation."  

In case you are interested here is the homepage.
http://ubuntustudio.org/

OK, back to the original issue.





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RE: Linux - 1/15/2013 9:54:53 AM   
stellauk


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[Note to Mods - thread title is Linux and I feel that my response to Outlier here might be beneficial to other Linux users or others interested in multimedia]

I have tried Ubuntu Studio back when I was using Ubuntu 9.04 but didn't find it useful partly because I couldn't have both Kdenlive and OpenShot (both non-linear video editing programs) installed on the same system. Partly this was down to the developers of Openshot and Kdenlive sharing the same MLT system but having incompatible versions, and also there were problems with FFmpeg and Flash.

The other problem was that I record some video using analogue video (I have an 8mm camcorder and also a Fuji Hi8) and there was no way of getting images onto the computer.

Ubuntu Studio is probably better for graphic artists and photographers.

I did discover AVLinux which worked better, although it is geared more towards audio and music - if you're a musician or DJ then I strongly recommend AVLinux.

In the end quite by chance I found that by installing Ubuntu and then on top of it Mythbuntu I could run both Kdenlive and OpenShot and also transfer analogue video via a TV tuner card through Mythbuntu and convert it to MPEG.

However, back to the schedule...

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RE: Linux - 1/29/2013 12:39:40 PM   
aquinasmaster


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Status: offline 		Ok I think it's time to put my sub out her misery ( well maybe just 10 minutes longer hahahah )

Hi all
I am euroluv's Master and I think it's time I pick up this thread and make some things clear to you wonderful people. Thank you all for trying to help her.

1 - MINT LMDE ( 32 or 64 bit ) stands for Linux Mint Debian Edition and I refer to website
quote:

LMDE is compatible with Debian, which isn't compatible with Ubuntu.

Telling someone using it to use Ubuntu drivers may work but may cause a very nasty rash which could have subby running to Master in tears

For those of you interested, it is very fast and fully compatible with Debian testing
LMDE

2 - I have LMDE installed on 5 pc's which are all different hardware and both 32 and 64 bit versions inc desktops Gnome 2 , Gnome 3 , Cinnamon and mate. All can use Skype, Tinychat, Google hangouts and all other types of web and non based audio and video software in multiple web browsers with the exception of video chat in collarme.

I would like to suggest that we all give up looking at hardware and operating system issues here and to start to direct our whips towards the collarme classic video chat software, although I have a horrible feeling it's just going to "flash" us and hide behind adobe.

3 -
quote:

There you can contact local Mint users who are much more .
likely to be able to help you than we are. Best of luck!


Hummmm So how would that work .....
quote:

Hi Linux mint users, I wonder if anyone can help me. I can't get my web cam to work when I go into a BDSM chat room. I can see loads on men wanking online but I can't show them my cunt.......does anyone have an ideas how to fix this problem ?


What we need to know here is either the name of the software collarme uses for the video chat on it's own servers or another web site ( like a gardening help site ) which uses the same software.
Being a frequent poster on the mint forum I'm quite sure I can find some help

4- I have used many distros over the years and as a recording musician I would love to move over to Linux full time. Unfortunate the one program I love most is not yet available for Linux but I'm trying to see if we can get a version working in wine unfortunately that's quite a way off at the moment.
Ohm studio

As for everything else well once you have mastered Jack tools ( also available for Windows ) then I'm quite happy with LMDE as a AV distro. It is also rolling distro so no need to reinstall EVER ( well that's unless we screw it up )
BTW I use a version of normal mint on my eeepc called Peppermint which is small ( only has a 4Gb drive ) and fast and very user friendly.
To just get back to the thread here .
......we need to know what collar me uses as video software and stop dmesging ourselves into submission and before it becomes terminal!


Thank you all
fellow lifestyle Penguins.

Aquinas

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RE: Linux - 1/31/2013 2:53:12 PM   
aquinasmaster


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Status: offline 		My clever little sub has done it!
I'll post the solution asap,

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RE: Linux - 1/31/2013 5:37:19 PM   
LookieNoNookie


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quote:

ORIGINAL: euroluv

Hi,
I am using Linux mint LMDE 64 bit and i love to be in the videochat and i cant use my cam and cant figure out how to work it tried several things but none work so i would love some help with this tY
greets euroluv


I've used Linux in the past but the IDa35 synchratic list values have an errant effect on databases (but you can use delude67/id24.exe if that creates a vacuum in the line below 17wsa...you can find this query on www.ifssanytigb.com/variant).

If you use Linux 3.788645 (on a whorl) you'll always be subject to drops on the 7 or 16th iterim.

Occasionally the 4th, but that's only if you use sequel server on the first batch....the second batch always comes out with unique links and then you have to find an appropriate way to connect them via network systems (assuming you can do so by way of the batch system that always leaves most directives wanting).

So, I prefer to go with a variant that ends up putting the second phase into a locked scenario, largely because those actions tend to produce the best results.

(Unless of course you're using C++ with a codified detriment....then...pretty much all bets are off).

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RE: Linux - 2/10/2013 1:02:49 PM   
aquinasmaster


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LookieNoNookie
You could just switch Flash on !

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RE: Linux - 2/20/2013 3:45:19 PM   
Queen1Sheba


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RE: Linux - 2/20/2013 6:04:27 PM   
LookieNoNookie


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quote:

ORIGINAL: euroluv

Hi,
I am using Linux mint LMDE 64 bit and i love to be in the videochat and i cant use my cam and cant figure out how to work it tried several things but none work so i would love some help with this tY
greets euroluv


I hear ya...

I used to use Unix until I found Ubu....but the teranox equinator always threw me for a loop until I discovered ubbix273 which has a terminus at the buss (few know you can do that unless you actually go inside the format system with a 12dv annex device...but I digress....).

Yeah...I get it.

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RE: Linux - 2/21/2013 4:02:53 AM   
aquinasmaster


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Status: offline 		I completely agree with the original post!

It is a shame there is no tech help within the forum.

Imaging asking for outside help.

"I'm having a tech issue with a web site "collarme" . Can someone please make an account there and help me out" ?

I wonder how many would do it ???????

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RE: Linux - 2/21/2013 4:29:38 AM   
taylormaid4Mastr


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Status: offline 		ooooh...i love techie talk!

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RE: Linux SOLVED - 2/21/2013 8:44:58 AM   
aquinasmaster


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Status: offline 		For those of you using Linux that can't get your camera to work in the classic video chat here on CM then this is probably why.

Once upon a time a company called Adobe decided it would try to Dominate the internet media streaming world and created and thing called “flash”.
Now I'm not quite sure how it became a poly standard but it did.
However a small but growing group of Penguins and Apples decided that it was not the kind of play they wanted and voiced there displeasure.
Of course they were told to just bow to the mighty Adobe and sent to huddle in the corner.
But as everyone knows it you disrespect the people below and allow them to communicate then you can expect an uprising.
BRING OUT THE HTML 5 AND WHIP THAT ADOBE BITCH!!!
While vindictive Dominate Apple has resources to beat Adobe into total submission the Linux community showed their more caring side and tried to comfort the now submissive Adobe and even invited them to munch. But alas after countless efforts to make a date Adobe never showed although they continued to promise they would and sometimes came up with some options for 32 but never for 64.

So if it doesn't work in linux and it uses flash then just accept Adobe don't give a shit and go on to tell all your Mac/windows/linux friends that The gimp is comparable to photo-shop, works on all platforms and is FREE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ok to make your web cam work in CM classic video chat do this

Look in you menus for the adobe flash player preferences
open it
Click on the Camera and Microphone settings by Site

look for www.collarme.com in the list and change the access to Allow

“Is that it” ?

YES

Thanks to Adobe this does not happen automatically nor are you asked to “allow” when you visit the site like you should be..

This has been tested on Linux Mint LMDE 32 and 64 bit on Desktops Cinnamon and mate.
Works on web browsers Chromium, Firefox, Opera, Midori and probably all the others as well.

I think this info should be in a separate thread or section in the forum so it is easily found .....
Tech support is not something I have found to be much help here in CM


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