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If having a chip on your shoulder about an ethnic group is a mental health issue, then Bernard Manning belonged in a secure unit rather than on stage.
Or was everybody who's making that excuse for a ridiculous sow murdering somebody in cold blood perfectly cool with the Fallujah attack and associated body desecrations because the evil muslims who did that were clearly raving mad?

I have no problem with her having a chip on her shoulder.  People can hate others if they want to. 

It is the actions that are the problem. 

This woman does not know right from wrong. 

There was something that happened recently here in the US.  Since then there has been a lot of discussion about mental health.  And for Americans to receive help with their mental issues.  I judge this woman to be criminally insane.  I think a mental institution rather than a prison would be safer for everyone. 




What happened in Fallujah took place within a different cultural venue.  Not the same. 

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If having a chip on your shoulder about an ethnic group is a mental health issue, then Bernard Manning belonged in a secure unit rather than on stage.
Or was everybody who's making that excuse for a ridiculous sow murdering somebody in cold blood perfectly cool with the Fallujah attack and associated body desecrations because the evil muslims who did that were clearly raving mad?

I have no problem with her having a chip on her shoulder.  People can hate others if they want to. 

It is the actions that are the problem. 

This woman does not know right from wrong. 

There was something that happened recently here in the US.  Since then there has been a lot of discussion about mental health.  And for Americans to receive help with their mental issues.  I judge this woman to be criminally insane.  I think a mental institution rather than a prison would be safer for everyone. 




What happened in Fallujah took place within a different cultural venue.  Not the same. 

It isn't your responsibility to judge this sow (or anybody else) criminally insane. That can wait until the cunt's tried, can't it? Whereupon, it'll be a judge and jury's call whether she's criminally insane, or merely a fuckwit who can expiate her sin within the criminal system like everybody else.

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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

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If having a chip on your shoulder about an ethnic group is a mental health issue, then Bernard Manning belonged in a secure unit rather than on stage.
Or was everybody who's making that excuse for a ridiculous sow murdering somebody in cold blood perfectly cool with the Fallujah attack and associated body desecrations because the evil muslims who did that were clearly raving mad?

I have no problem with her having a chip on her shoulder.  People can hate others if they want to. 

It is the actions that are the problem. 

This woman does not know right from wrong. 

There was something that happened recently here in the US.  Since then there has been a lot of discussion about mental health.  And for Americans to receive help with their mental issues.  I judge this woman to be criminally insane.  I think a mental institution rather than a prison would be safer for everyone. 




What happened in Fallujah took place within a different cultural venue.  Not the same. 

It isn't your responsibility to judge this sow (or anybody else) criminally insane. That can wait until the cunt's tried, can't it? Whereupon, it'll be a judge and jury's call whether she's criminally insane, or merely a fuckwit who can expiate her sin within the criminal system like everybody else.

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verb (used with object)

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to pass legal judgment on; pass sentence on (a person): The court judged him guilty. 7.
to hear evidence or legal arguments in (a case) in order to pass judgment; adjudicate; try: The Supreme Court is judging that case. 8.
to form a judgment or opinion of; decide upon critically: You can't judge a book by its cover. 9.
to decide or settle authoritatively; adjudge: The censor judged the book obscene and forbade its sale. 10.
to infer, think, or hold as an opinion; conclude about or assess: He judged her to be correct.

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Possibly, but there's no way of telling just yet. Claiming that she's mentally ill before any investigation has started is as ridiculous as trying to blame the murder on media scaremongering.

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Re: the accused woman's "obvious" mental illness.

Were each and every member of the Nazi Party in Germany "obviously" mentally ill, or were their actions based on years of propaganda and indoctrination?

If the accused turns out to be someone who constantly watches Fox-"News" and constantly listens to Rush Limbaugh and/or Glenn Beck, her Islamophobia might be the result of 12 years of indoctrination and propaganda, and not necessarily mental illness.

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Re: the accused woman's "obvious" mental illness.
Were each and every member of the Nazi Party in Germany "obviously" mentally ill, or were their actions based on years of propaganda and indoctrination?
If the accused turns out to be someone who constantly watches Fox-"News" and constantly listens to Rush Limbaugh and/or Glenn Beck, her Islamophobia might be the result of 12 years of indoctrination and propaganda, and not necessarily mental illness.

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should we call her actions a "pre-emptive strike" in the "war against Islam"?

Or should she be locked up in a prison cell for the rest of her life?

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Whether she's crazy or not isn't the point. Bottom line, she's violent and dangerous. Maybe they can 'cure' her, or maybe not, but she needs to get put away until we can be sure she is no longer a threat.

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Re: the accused woman's "obvious" mental illness.
Were each and every member of the Nazi Party in Germany "obviously" mentally ill, or were their actions based on years of propaganda and indoctrination?
If the accused turns out to be someone who constantly watches Fox-"News" and constantly listens to Rush Limbaugh and/or Glenn Beck, her Islamophobia might be the result of 12 years of indoctrination and propaganda, and not necessarily mental illness.

You're clueless about Beck and Rush, unless they change their messages when I'm not listening. Neither one of them would ever support any kind of violence against another based on religion, skin color, etc. They may warn against Islamic extremists, but they'll have no problem supporting the belief that the extremists are a small percentage of all Muslims.

Violence is not a staple of Fox News, the Tea Party, Rush, or Beck. I don't give a fuck what you think of them or those organizations. Just represent their stands and statements accurately.

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Randolph Linn was “no better than the terrorists or extremists” that he said he was fighting against when he drove from his Indiana home to Islamic Center of Greater Toledo and set flames to the place of worship, a federal judge said today.

“When you went through that door, you did not attack extremists or terrorists. Instead, you attacked the place where families come to pray,” Judge Jack Zouhary said. “…Ironically, it’s your own violence that was sinful and evil.”

Linn, 52, of St. Joe, Ind., pleaded guilty in U.S. District Court to with one count each of intentionally defacing, damaging, and destroying religious property; using a fire to commit a felony; and using and carrying a firearm to commit a crime of violence. As part of a binding plea agreement accepted in court, he will be ordered to serve 20 years in prison when sentenced April 16 and will be required to pay restitution to the mosque.

Linn admitted he set fire to the rug in the prayer room at the mosque on Sept. 30 after walking through the building with a gun to check for people in each room. HE SAID HE WAS MOTIVATED TO DRIVE THE NEARLY TWO HOURS FROM HIS INDIANA HOME TO THE PERRYSBURG MOSQUE “TO GET SOME PAYBACK” FOR AMERICANS WHO HAD BEEN KILLED.

When questioned by Judge Zouhary, Linn acknowledged that HE PERSONALLY DID NOT KNOW ANYONE OF THE ISLAMIC FAITH BUT SAID HE BELIEVED WHAT HE SAW ABOUT EXTREMISTS ON FOX NEWS PROGRAMS.

“I KNOW THEY DON’T BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST AS THE SAVIOR,” HE TOLD THE JUDGE.

“THERE ARE OTHERS WHO DON’T BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST,” JUDGE ZOUHARY RESPONDED.

“THEY’RE NOT GOING AROUND KILLING US,” LINN SAID.

Authorities said Linn drove his vehicle containing several firearms and three gas containers into Ohio. He stopped at a gas station in Ridgeville Corners to fill the containers and then continued on to the mosque on Schneider Road.

Once there, Linn walked around the building in an attempt to gain entry. He found a door open and, with a gun in his hand, entered the building and checked all the rooms, Assistant U.S. Attorney Ava Dusten said in court.

After walking through the building, Linn went to his vehicle to retrieve a gas can and returned to the prayer room where he poured gasoline on the rug.

“He then set fire to the prayer rug,” Ms. Dusten said.

Linn said he had drunk 45 beers over a period of six or seven hours before he “jumped up” and drove to Ohio. He told the judge that he “definitely did not think about it.”

Ms. Dusten countered that about two weeks prior to the incident, Linn had threatened to burn the mosque in a conversation with his 20-year-old son. She added that when he was arrested on Oct. 2, in Fort Wayne, Ind., Linn told the arresting officer, said to an officer, “[EXPLETIVE] THOSE MUSLIMS” and that “THEY WOULD KILL US IF THEY GOT THE CHANCE.”

Eight members of the Islamic Center appeared in court today to watch the proceedings. Mahjabeen Islam, president of the center, said the charges and resulting sentence “send a very loud message to future criminals … that our society will not tolerate hate and violence.”

Dr. Islam said that the community has opened its hearts to those who lost their place of worship and that they continue to meet and pray. The school has also been relocated.

She said that it was “heart wrenching” to hear Linn speak, especially about his views on the Islamic faith.

“His hate was palpable,” she said. “He pleaded guilty but he didn’t seem contrite.”

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Here is a disturbing report from a local news broadcast in Toledo, Ohio. An Indiana man pleaded guilty to arson for having set fire to an Islamic Center in Toledo. He was sentenced to 20 years today and, in an exchange with the judge, revealed his motivation.

The judge asked him if he knew any Muslims or what Islam is. He said “NO, I ONLY KNOW WHAT I HEAR ON FOX NEWS.”

The producers at Fox must be so proud of the prejudice they inspire with their overtly hateful coverage of any subject that deals with Muslims. Their scandal mongering a couple of years ago about the Park-51 Islamic Center in Manhattan was evidence of just how biased the network is against Muslims. And numerous Fox anchors and guests have engaged in the slander that all Muslims are terrorists, or that all terrorists are Muslim…

It should not be surprising that one of their loyal viewers decided to commit what he thinks is an act of patriotism. After driving into their heads the notion that Muslims are America’s enemies, even when they are American citizens, congressmen, or soldiers, Fox’s audience has become indoctrinated by the prejudice that gushes from the network’s broadcasts. Now we know that a member of that audience has taken the next step in manifesting the hate that Fox manufactures. And it cannot be explained away as a legal tactic to avoid responsibility because he already pleaded guilty.

This is not the first time something like this has happened either. There was the story about a woman who threatened to fire all of her black employees if they voted for Obama, and she wrote “KKK” on their time cards. Her excuse? “I THINK I GOT CRAZY WITH FOX NEWS, WATCHING TOO MUCH FOX NEWS.”…

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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

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If having a chip on your shoulder about an ethnic group is a mental health issue, then Bernard Manning belonged in a secure unit rather than on stage.
Or was everybody who's making that excuse for a ridiculous sow murdering somebody in cold blood perfectly cool with the Fallujah attack and associated body desecrations because the evil muslims who did that were clearly raving mad?

I have no problem with her having a chip on her shoulder.  People can hate others if they want to. 

It is the actions that are the problem. 

This woman does not know right from wrong. 

There was something that happened recently here in the US.  Since then there has been a lot of discussion about mental health.  And for Americans to receive help with their mental issues.  I judge this woman to be criminally insane.  I think a mental institution rather than a prison would be safer for everyone. 




What happened in Fallujah took place within a different cultural venue.  Not the same. 

It isn't your responsibility to judge this sow (or anybody else) criminally insane. That can wait until the cunt's tried, can't it? Whereupon, it'll be a judge and jury's call whether she's criminally insane, or merely a fuckwit who can expiate her sin within the criminal system like everybody else.

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I notice that you repeatedly refuse to back up your claim that anyone here has said she should be adjudicated not guilty...

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25 years to life...no mental ward...regular prison...just like all violent criminals.

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Re: the accused woman's "obvious" mental illness.

Were each and every member of the Nazi Party in Germany "obviously" mentally ill, or were their actions based on years of propaganda and indoctrination?

If the accused turns out to be someone who constantly watches Fox-"News" and constantly listens to Rush Limbaugh and/or Glenn Beck, her Islamophobia might be the result of 12 years of indoctrination and propaganda, and not necessarily mental illness.

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I notice that you repeatedly refuse to back up your claim that anyone here has said she should be adjudicated not guilty...

Given that I never claimed any such thing, I'm not obliged to back up something I didn't say.
I was taking issue with the several posters claiming that the woman's "obviously" mad and so belongs in an institution rather than the criminal justice system.

As for this:
"...because I hate Hindus and Muslims ever since 2001 when they put down the twin towers I've been beating them up..."
flakier views of reality are displayed in here on a daily basis. Do you want to see a bunch of your peers declared mentally incompetent because they talk shit?