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LookieNoNookie -> I don't want to hear from Microsoft "haters" because.... (11/30/2012 6:33:58 PM)

You're just fucking stooopit.....all you wanna do is hate/bash Msft.

What I want to hear from is from people who have ACTUALLY tested Windows 8....really truly....

Anyone?

I've heard from the Illuminati that, it's a rocking OS and it ain't that difficult to learn....from others....it's too complicated.

What's the REAL story?

Please don't comment unless your panties are NOT in a wad.




littlewonder -> RE: I don't want to hear from Microsoft "haters" because.... (11/30/2012 8:03:40 PM)

I used virtual Windows 8 last year before it was available. We had to use it in my Cisco class and I actually liked it. I felt it was easy to navigate and just simpler overall and I liked the possibility for virtualization. If I bought any new computer gadgets I would make sure it had Windows 8 installed.





Missokyst -> RE: I don't want to hear from Microsoft "haters" because.... (11/30/2012 9:25:52 PM)

Ok.. the real deal is it is basically like using your phone only larger. They use applications just as you might find on any apple or android. Touch here, go to the net; touch there, play some games. All in all if you buy a tablet and you already are used to phone applications you will be fine. Honestly this is where the direction is headed so best to jump in before you are one of those people still using a Betamax. Now the bad part. If you are used to using windows from a laptop or desktop, getting to a screen you are used to seeing is tricky at first (usually hidden in the right side and won't open until you deliberately click there). Laptops and desktops usually do not have a touch display screen so you will need to get to the regular windows interface to make things doable. Once there though, you are pretty much set, it runs like windows 7 when you can find that display.




JeffBC -> RE: I don't want to hear from Microsoft "haters" because.... (11/30/2012 11:09:02 PM)

It is a great OS. The user interface is new and so undoubtedly has some rough corners to knock off it but generally reviewers are saying positive things about it. If you already have Windows 7 it's not worth the upgrade. If you have Vista or earlier it is. If I was getting a new computer I'd put Windows 8 on it assuming I was doing a windows based PC.

edited to add
Most people probably won't care about this but under the covers Microsoft has loaded yet more DRM crap into it and it is a step towards Microsoft making it's own "walled garden" as Apple has done. So for those into IP issues or with concerns about getting locked in it's not such a good move. My comments above apply to the average user.




snappykappy -> RE: I don't want to hear from Microsoft "haters" because.... (11/30/2012 11:13:09 PM)

I got a new laptop with I 8 on it and it took a little getting used to like getting my email and of couse outlook express is not compatible with it other than that doin ok with it

and I had trouble getting on the internet isp but got that figured out




crazyml -> RE: I don't want to hear from Microsoft "haters" because.... (11/30/2012 11:17:19 PM)

Oh it's really really good.

I'm not sure I'd upgrade to it though, my next l/top will be a Windows 8 machine for sure.

Unless I can afford a Macbook Pro - which would be fucking awesome.




theSwan -> RE: I don't want to hear from Microsoft "haters" because.... (11/30/2012 11:23:23 PM)


I have a full copy of Windows 8 running on my laptop currently.
I want to state up front that, while I am not a 'Microsoft hater', I do my fair share of programming.
I am aware of the upsides and downsides of Windows and Linux (Apple and I aren't so well acquainted) and I prefer to be entirely honest about the pros and cons of everything I talk about.
So while I won't spew any directionless complaining, I will mention a few problems the operating system has currently.

But first, the nice things.

For one, you still have access to your Windows 7-style desktop. I setup a shortcut on the Metro home screen - Click that and you're there.
After that, you can just ALT+Tab whenever you want to get back.
So, if there aren't good Metro applications for certain functionality or if you want to run certain things more traditionally on your machine, you can just hang out on the regular desktop perpetually if you'd like.

The Metro interface is beautiful.
While people used to traditional Windows control schemes will have to learn the Metro setup.
They will either learn quickly due to familiarity with smartphones.
Or, they will kill two birds with one stone and learn how to work with smartphones and Windows 8 at the same time.

You can sync a Microsoft account as your login to your operating system.
I didn't have a Microsoft account before this operating system but for the functionality it offered, I went for it.

The installation process behind adding new applications from the Microsoft store is so much nicer than traditional program installation.
There are plenty of free programs as well, so ignore any complaints people have about things costing so much money now.
The Market allows smaller developers to get in and offer a products to consumers at small prices.
Programs, including games, specifically for PCs have traditionally retailed higher than a few dollars here and there because they have often been the realm of both larger companies and physical medium production.
Smaller companies allowed to offer digital downloads = Lots of nice application for less than five dollars.

It's nice to see this aspect of phone economy move to a full operating system.

The annoying error sound from Windows has been replaced with a softer bell sound.
Actually, all of the sounds have been changed to be more pleasing.
That small difference has meant a lot to me.

Now, a handful of issues..

Because I got an early copy and moved it to an non-new machine, I had some driver issues in the beginning.
This will likely not be the case for others.

Also, a lot of the applications for Windows 8 from the store just aren't good yet.
Once again, with time, I imagine this will improve. But a lot of applications from the Market (and even from Microsoft themselves) just don't seem fully up to spec yet.
Messaging, as it comes from Microsoft, only allows MSN.
The eMail client built in is a bit buggy when working with gMail still.

There can be some confusion with same programs running in separate environments.
For example, I have a Google Chrome browser in my Windows-7-style desktop.
And I also have the Google Chrome Metro application.
These are not the same program at all.
When I change the settings on one, it doesn't affect the other.

That's something to keep in mind when doing initial configuration.

Currently, the default Windows picture viewer doesn't scroll through pictures in the directory with arrow keys.
Before, you could double-click and image and just press left and right to see the next picture.
Now, even though I think the image viewer looks nicer, it doesn't have that functionality.
I've discovered that 'Previewing' the images (right-click and select 'Preview') brings back the original image view-style from Windows 7.
Looking forward to when navigation with the Windows 8 Image Viewer is improved.

Closing Metro applications involved clicking the top of the window of the application and dragging down the bottom of your screen.
Excellent for touch screen, slightly awkward for non-touch screen.
But it's not nearly as bad as a lot of people would say.
What took me the longest was just figuring out that dragging down was the way to close the window.

If you have any specific questions, you can always Inbox me and I'll be happy to assist.




KingVictory -> RE: I don't want to hear from Microsoft "haters" because.... (11/30/2012 11:34:18 PM)

Windows 8 is not worth upgrading to if your running windows 7 or unless you have a windows 8 mobile phone. It's okay update but I prefer windows 7. I Have MacBook Pro a gateway with dual boot windows 7 and ubuntu distro and dell running windows 8. I stick to the windows 7 the most.




OsideGirl -> RE: I don't want to hear from Microsoft "haters" because.... (12/1/2012 3:15:37 AM)

Windows 8 is not compatible with the airline res system, so I bought a Windows 7 machine the night before 8 came out.




JstAnotherSub -> RE: I don't want to hear from Microsoft "haters" because.... (12/1/2012 5:22:32 AM)

I have it at work, and love it. Just took a while to figure out, and if it is good enough for me to not have to call tech about, any dummy should be able to use it!




wandersalone -> RE: I don't want to hear from Microsoft "haters" because.... (12/1/2012 6:38:11 AM)

looks around in fear

who are these people and what language are they speaking

eyes glaze over and Wanders faints

probably why my brother who works in something to do with computers has never told me what he actually does as he says I barely know how to turn my computer on let alone anything about operating systems. I will try to impress him by asking his thoughts though




PeonForHer -> RE: I don't want to hear from Microsoft "haters" because.... (12/1/2012 11:44:47 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: wandersalone I will try to impress him by asking his thoughts though


Just tell him you 'preferred the German-flanged architecture of the prototype'. The phrase is completely meaningless, but he won't know that and won't want to look ignorant by asking. If he does, though, just laugh and tell him to stop toying with you, expert that he is.

The same phrase will work in pretty much any situation where you want to impress an engineer of any kind.

I hope that helps.





wandersalone -> RE: I don't want to hear from Microsoft "haters" because.... (12/1/2012 12:19:37 PM)

laughs, thanks for that Peon.

He isn't a computer engineer though (well I don't think he is because he never went to uni), he started learning and then teaching people how to use computers when they first started becoming more mainstream and was working in IT before it was even a phrase.

He builds and designs and tests ummmmm stuff, and goes to minesites to make sure that the stuff is enough to do ....stuff

He has also been known to tell his bosses that their ideas are not going to work but that he is happy to do as they say as he will still get paid regardless

impresses myself with my knowledge




MercTech -> RE: I don't want to hear from Microsoft "haters" because.... (12/2/2012 9:20:08 AM)

For you Win8 users... did they fix the problem that Win7 blocks sharing with non Win7 hardware?




JeffBC -> RE: I don't want to hear from Microsoft "haters" because.... (12/2/2012 9:28:58 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MercTech
For you Win8 users... did they fix the problem that Win7 blocks sharing with non Win7 hardware?

*blinks* Uh huh?

I've been using Win7 day to day since early beta. I have never observed it to "block sharing with non Win7 hardware". I've shared with other windows devices of all stripes and with non-windows platforms via a variety of different means. Do you have a specific use case in mind?




Missokyst -> RE: I don't want to hear from Microsoft "haters" because.... (12/2/2012 9:45:41 AM)

Ditto to that question above. The best thing that happened with 7 was the ease of sharing. It found every computer on my network with ease, found the network printer and the external storage devices without my having to dig for anything.




LookieNoNookie -> RE: I don't want to hear from Microsoft "haters" because.... (12/2/2012 8:01:19 PM)

Interesting.

I had heard the OS was going to fail miserably because it was such a departure.

I think I'll keep win7 on the office computers for another 18 months or so.




Missokyst -> RE: I don't want to hear from Microsoft "haters" because.... (12/2/2012 9:34:41 PM)

7 is great for computers. And 8 won't fail by any means. The world is headed toward applications. Microsoft is only falling in line with the trend that began with phones. I will stick with 7 for as long as I can.




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