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I really think Dr. Phil is a ratings shill but.... - 11/24/2012 2:43:07 PM   
LookieNoNookie


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Status: offline 		This one caught me by surprise....

It's aimed towards women but....I've done the same thing....where he says "STOP!....Walk away!!!!"

Most attackers are pussies....I've never been bigger than attackers in the past (or at least...in that moment, I didn't think so but....this vid gives some decent advice....especially for girls).

http://www.aol.com/video/why-your-walk-may-attract-predators/517543077/?icid=maing-grid7|main5|dl4|sec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D237059

I remember this one time I was in Kansas, running in between conferences....some guy was walking towards me (behind us) and my (female) guest very fast, she must have been aware of it (I certainly was...maybe she was hoping I was capable....I didn't ask later....took me about 2 hours to calm down...I was chill of course LOL) and I turned around and told the fellow "you better walk across the street NOW because I'm about to stop and head your way!"....and thank God he did.
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RE: I really think Dr. Phil is a ratings shill but.... - 11/24/2012 5:06:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		I agree about Doctor Phil and his connection to the Doctors' show... I will say first I find him attractive and he has charisma.....I have watched Dr. Phil on occasion but he is such a shill like you say that it makes me doubt anything he says...of course the percentage he is right is a percentage but......The things that have a firm psychological basis yes...but he is a show man and you have to keep that in mind..the whole thing with him and his wife when they leave the show at the end is so corny and laughable.

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RE: I really think Dr. Phil is a ratings shill but.... - 11/24/2012 5:29:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		This is one of the reasons why I've never been afraid to walk in bad neighborhoods even as a small woman. I've lived in many cities, I've lived with the "bad boys", drug pushers, violent people, etc...so I have always known how to react on the streets. I have given this advice to several women....and even some men. Walk tall, walk with confidence, make a little eye contact (just enough to acknowledge their presence), give a little nod and smile and you will find they rarely ever will bother you. If you show you are meek and weak, they yeah, they're going to completely take you for just that and they will see you as prey. The minute you show fear is the minute you can count on them attacking you.



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RE: I really think Dr. Phil is a ratings shill but.... - 11/25/2012 5:36:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		Dr. phil is a CROCK OF SHIT! How many lawsuits has he been involved in? Conflicts of interest etc, etc and so on. This is the kind of asshole that gives me nightmares. There is practically nothing that separates him from the thug on the street, except he has a tv show and people believe in and trust him.



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RE: I really think Dr. Phil is a ratings shill but.... - 11/25/2012 6:05:22 AM   
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However, scientists who study kinetics (body language) agree that how you walk *can* attract predators.

There as aspects of body language and facial expression that are universal across cultures (and some are universal across species). Dominance display among mammals look the same as they do in humans, with some variety of course.

A huge variable is the individual person's ability to read body language a/o facial expression. So MOS's advice to walk tall and confident is valid if your potential attacker can read that body language, and I would say most can.

If your potential attacker is a strung out junkie or crack addict, they may be so befuddled they can't correctly read body language, in which case how the potential victim walks is of no consequence.





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RE: I really think Dr. Phil is a ratings shill but.... - 11/25/2012 6:39:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		The advice on how to walk confidently and as though you are aware of your surroundings is sound, and has nothing to do with Dr. Phil. A predator wants to get his objective as smoothly as possible, he doesn't want any problems. If you look as though you will put up a fight, attract notice in any way, or cause damage to himself, the predator moves on to another, easier target. He's looking to get something, and wants it as least cost to himself. So be engaged with what you are doing, and where you are going, look up, walk tall, look as though you will yell and fight back or cause some blip on the radar.

Even a small dog can cause problems if bigger dog picks a fight. The confidence and willingness to attract attention won't always protect you, but it does the job of having the predator move on from selecting you to begin with much of the time.

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RE: I really think Dr. Phil is a ratings shill but.... - 11/25/2012 7:40:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		Im not sure about the make eye contant at all. I once was in a bar, went to sit down at a table across from her. I made breif eye contact and grinned slighltly, she said "WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU LOOKING AT?"
I said "Excuse me?" She said " I SAID WHAT THE FUCK YOU LOOKING AT"
I said " WELL BITCH IM LOOKING RIGHT AT YOU, WTF you think IM looking at"
She didnt say another word.
lol. She felt challenged or something in her drunken stupor. Shrugs shoulders.

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RE: I really think Dr. Phil is a ratings shill but.... - 11/25/2012 9:03:24 AM   
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Im not sure about the make eye contant at all. I once was in a bar, went to sit down at a table across from her. I made breif eye contact and grinned slighltly, she said "WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU LOOKING AT?"
I said "Excuse me?" She said " I SAID WHAT THE FUCK YOU LOOKING AT"
I said " WELL BITCH IM LOOKING RIGHT AT YOU, WTF you think IM looking at"
She didnt say another word.
lol. She felt challenged or something in her drunken stupor. Shrugs shoulders.

Or, she had left her pistol in tha car...

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RE: I really think Dr. Phil is a ratings shill but.... - 11/25/2012 5:35:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		She was drunk....whole different ballgame.

Drunk and stoned people are another type with a different type of body language that you have to give off. For one thing, if they talk to you in that way, you don't answer. You get off your stool and walk away or scoot down a few empty ones and continue your night. If they continue, you make sure the barkeep sees what is happening and they tend to take care of it. If they don't, then surround yourself with your friends, especially a male or two.

But most times the first way works from my experiences as both the aggrieved party and the drunk.

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RE: I really think Dr. Phil is a ratings shill but.... - 11/26/2012 5:19:07 PM   
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The advice on how to walk confidently and as though you are aware of your surroundings is sound, and has nothing to do with Dr. Phil.


Yes, I remember this being covered when I was in the Girl Scouts more than 30 years ago.

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RE: I really think Dr. Phil is a ratings shill but.... - 11/26/2012 5:23:13 PM   
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The advice on how to walk confidently and as though you are aware of your surroundings is sound, and has nothing to do with Dr. Phil.


Yes, I remember this being covered when I was in the Girl Scouts more than 30 years ago.


You've reminded me...I remember this being covered when I was in the Girl Scouts more than 30 years ago.

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RE: I really think Dr. Phil is a ratings shill but.... - 11/26/2012 9:00:44 PM   
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The advice on how to walk confidently and as though you are aware of your surroundings is sound, and has nothing to do with Dr. Phil.


Yes, I remember this being covered when I was in the Girl Scouts more than 30 years ago.


You've reminded me...I remember this being covered when I was in the Girl Scouts more than 30 years ago.

Nookie we got paperwork from girl scout corporate, they asked that you stop wearing the uniform without underpants around the cookies

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RE: I really think Dr. Phil is a ratings shill but.... - 11/27/2012 8:34:00 AM   
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You've reminded me...I remember this being covered when I was in the Girl Scouts more than 30 years ago.


Now Lookie,is that supposed to be "when I was in the Girl Scouts.." or "when I was in a Girl Scout..."?




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RE: I really think Dr. Phil is a ratings shill but.... - 11/27/2012 5:21:24 PM   
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You've reminded me...I remember this being covered when I was in the Girl Scouts more than 30 years ago.


Now Lookie,is that supposed to be "when I was in the Girl Scouts.." or "when I was in a Girl Scout..."?





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RE: I really think Dr. Phil is a ratings shill but.... - 11/27/2012 7:02:54 PM   
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That's right. I said Dr. Phil wears three socks.

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RE: I really think Dr. Phil is a ratings shill but.... - 11/27/2012 8:30:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		An old friend once told me the best thing for a victim who has been kidnapped to do is act like they're severely retarded. Some attackers are turned on by victims who try to fight back. Others prefer tears and begging. Very few, if any, have a fetish for the mentally disturbed.

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RE: I really think Dr. Phil is a ratings shill but.... - 11/28/2012 12:07:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		When it happened to me, the best thing I did was simply to be nice to him, talk to him, try to get as much information out of him as possible and give him better options that I thought may have sounded better to him. I listened and watched him to find out what it was he was hoping to accomplish, why he did it, etc...I didn't freak out, I didn't cry or beg or anything like that. I stayed as calm as possible, especially because I was pregnant and didn't want to chance losing her in any way possible.

Thankfully it worked and he let me go eventually.


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RE: I really think Dr. Phil is a ratings shill but.... - 11/28/2012 4:18:08 PM   
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An old friend once told me the best thing for a victim who has been kidnapped to do is act like they're severely retarded. Some attackers are turned on by victims who try to fight back. Others prefer tears and begging. Very few, if any, have a fetish for the mentally disturbed.


I've never understood this stuff but....I've never been a chic.

I can't imagine what it's like to be the candy store....24/7.

Do you feel like you're the candy store when you walk down the street?

As much as I'd like to believe all things (and people) are equal....I know better.

All this shit about it's a man's world and....women own the game (and both sides concur)....all this shit....there are times when I wish (selfishly) that I was born a woman (just so I could experience that multiple thing), times I'm glad I was born a man (so I can lord it over all the women on the planet and crush them like little bugs (just kidding)....I'm serious....just kidding.....

It's completely different. Please help me grasp this...I'm seriously interested....I suspect this question hasn't been asked in this depth before.

I wish I could completely grasp what it's like....but I see girls walking down the street....now 54...looking aside....('cause I don't want to be construed as a perv)...and I wonder....

I saw an old woman walking down the street today....downtown Seattle...and for an instant, I thought "well she's not going to be hunted tonight..." and then I thought...."yeah she will...she's an old woman..."

I'd like to ask an honest question

As a woman....what's it like to be....a woman....at any age....

(I feel awful now not understanding.....because I can't)....

I don't even know how to appropriately ask the question.

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