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Spiritedsub2 -> RE: How was your first munch? (11/19/2012 9:47:16 AM)


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ORIGINAL: descrite

LaT nailed it. I will ditto.

That's disappointing to hear. The Sacramento munches are lousy?




mysouldesire -> RE: How was your first munch? (11/19/2012 1:22:23 PM)


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Boring.

Pam



Me too.

I even tried again and again.
Being on the introvert side did not help..... but I found NO ONE who was extending themselves on account of a new body in the room.

Sorry Milwaukee fans.




Missokyst -> RE: How was your first munch? (11/19/2012 1:33:47 PM)

The one I went to wasn't lousy. It was too crowded though. Lot's of people in a small place and a bit scattered. Sacramento munches are best for the younger crowd, imo.
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ORIGINAL: Spiritedsub2


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ORIGINAL: descrite

LaT nailed it. I will ditto.

That's disappointing to hear. The Sacramento munches are lousy?





metamorfosis -> RE: How was your first munch? (11/19/2012 11:00:23 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mysouldesire
I even tried again and again.
Being on the introvert side did not help..... but I found NO ONE who was extending themselves on account of a new body in the room.


For me, it wasn't that. I went with friends, so I wasn't alone, and I suspect people would've still talked to me if I had been (alone). It was also huge, there must have been at least 200 people. It's just it was, after all, one big, long meeting and a bunch of boring small talk by people I felt I had nothing in common with. To be fair, I wasn't trying to be social or fit in, so it was much my own fault if I was bored. It just didn't seem worth it to make an effort.

Pam




descrite -> RE: How was your first munch? (11/20/2012 8:47:13 AM)

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Sacramento munches are best for the younger crowd, imo.


This, very much. The parties are awesome, and welcoming. But the munches are a little...off-putting.




MissCake -> RE: How was your first munch? (11/20/2012 8:55:29 PM)

I think the biggest problem to fear with a munch is that it will be boring. It helps to be outgoing. Do introduce yourself to the oldest old lady there and have her introduce you around. She'll probably be protective if she sees anyone trying to be piggish with you.




kalikshama -> RE: How was your first munch? (11/21/2012 11:46:16 AM)

Nelee, have you looked on fetlife for a TNG (The Next Generation (of kinksters)) near you? Some of the negatives expressed above won't be as prevalent with the under 35 crowd.

I liked my first munch. It was a big one, over 50 people, and had a theme. I don't remember the theme of the first one, but later John Warren, author of The Loving Dominant, gave a talk and did a book signing.

I normally have anxiety about going to new places myself, but I wasn't nervous because I was familiar with the restaurant and went with my (now ex) husband.

At every munch I've been to in MA and FL, there's been someone on the lookout for new people and are very welcoming.




LadyPact -> RE: How was your first munch? (11/21/2012 11:56:20 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Spiritedsub2


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ORIGINAL: descrite

LaT nailed it. I will ditto.

That's disappointing to hear. The Sacramento munches are lousy?
I just checked with clip to verify. According to him, he would say no.

If I remember correctly, it was Michael who cleared the way for him. Since clip only made it to three, perhaps asking Michael would be a good resource.


ETA - Sorry. I didn't answer the original.

I had a pretty good impression from My first munch. I didn't really have any expectations, which tends to make the event more positive. I will tell you that it was just a few folks, so not overwhelming. I had no clue of what was really going on around Me, but I had a good time.





Nelee -> RE: How was your first munch? (11/21/2012 12:01:32 PM)

I did do a search, but it seems we only have a group called "The Red Chair" that has been around for a while, and is mostly an older crowd (which is kind of great, since they seem very experienced and down to earth, and there are a fair number of new people like me as well). I had NEVER heard of them before now, but apparently it's downtown near a place I hang out quite often.

Being in Alabama, finding a "younger" group of people into legitimate BDSM (as in, they're mature and realize the difference between being an abusive pile of shit and being dominant, and the difference between being an abuse sponge and being submissive, etc) is like trying to find rave events that aren't filled with underaged kids trying to score drugs: If you want it legit, and you want to keep it legit, you probably only have a small, established group and you don't advertise often. So it just starts with finding the right people. I'm not very good at finding people, haha.




LadyPact -> RE: How was your first munch? (11/21/2012 12:16:36 PM)

How close are you to the AL/GA border? If you aren't far off, I can throw some recommendations your way.




Delilya -> RE: How was your first munch? (11/21/2012 12:32:45 PM)

I attended my first munch a few months ago. I was nervous going, but was met by some really nice people. It took till the second one for me to loosen up and relax and I've had a blast since then. Munches led to events, events led to my first time playing in public. It has been a wonderful experience for me.

Wishing you the best.




vield -> RE: How was your first munch? (11/21/2012 12:42:17 PM)

Good topic!

I can not remember my 1st Munch, I do not think the term had yet been coined in those days. But the group had a public outreach in a public restaurant, where one could agree to join the group, then one got directions to the location of the discussion or demo main meeting, and later many went out to dinner in a semi-private room or a restaurant which liked our business.

I had been to a number of kinky socials or "meet and greet" events before that.

As a submissive, walking into a new (to me) event always feels like stepping off a platform blindfolded, hoping the drop is only a couple of inches. That feeling always goes away shortly, and will not be present if I am attending with someone I have some connection or friendship with.

As a dominant, walking into a new (to me) event is a bit exciting, but I try not to have expectations of what will result from the event. That way I enjoy whatever goes down.

Often if it is a new event to me, I walk in as a switch with some of both sets of feelings.

I have made a lot of friends through Munches and other events. I recommend new folks to try the events near them, because at least when one is talking to someone in person one can get a LOT better idea of their actual age, gender, intelligence, hygiene, and at least a bit more idea about whether or not they know what they are talking about. On line too many are hiding their real self behind a keyboard, then if they even show up for an in-person meeting the contrast between who they claim to be and who they are can be shocking.

Here in Wisconsin we have a LOT of meetings, Munches, events, classes, and discussion groups. The majority of the groups have people looking out for newbies, to welcome them, introduce them and make them feel safe. Many of the best known groups are pan-sexual, welcoming those of all (consenting adult) preferences, so often there is a rich mixture of ideas.

In ALL cases though it is our own responsibility to keep ourselves safe. If anyone pushes us in any direction we are not open to or ready for we need to tell them "no thank you" and if attentions persist, to ask a group officer or leader to help. If you do not know the organizers or leaders, look around and go to someone who is the center of attention for several people and politely ask them for assistance.

I highly recommend making acquaintances, then friends before agreeing to become partners with anyone. That way you have a back-up network to help you find what you seek.

If there is a choice in your area, I suggest attending groups with little or no "protocols of behavior". Some of the high protocol groups can be extremely exciting to be a member of, but not until you understand what you are getting into and you decide that you do want this.

I also suggest you at least try groups who are open to all ages and all genders and all consensual practices. Your own personal kinks may end up best served by a very limited focus group eventually, but it is much more likely that you may find friends or teachers or mentors in a group of wider interests.

It is also a point that if you make friend with people who are NOT seeking the same things you are, you may not find yourself in competition with someone you thought was a friend!

Be safe & happy!




Spiritedsub2 -> RE: How was your first munch? (11/21/2012 1:19:40 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Spiritedsub2


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ORIGINAL: descrite

LaT nailed it. I will ditto.

That's disappointing to hear. The Sacramento munches are lousy?
I just checked with clip to verify. According to him, he would say no.

If I remember correctly, it was Michael who cleared the way for him. Since clip only made it to three, perhaps asking Michael would be a good resource.


Michael mentioned in a recent post in a unrelated thread that he thinks the Sacramento bdsm community is dysfunctional, but he didn't elaborate (apologies if I am misquoting Michael)..




SacredDepravity -> RE: How was your first munch? (11/21/2012 1:31:35 PM)

I drank some sweet tea, chatted about pets and hobbies with strangers, and learned a few new cool recipes that are simply delicious. I took the opportunity to meet a new contact there. Most had dinner, some just stopped by for a few minutes. They were a bunch of normal people having normal conversations and doing normal things. I was nervous about it until I got there and started talking to people. I'd love to go again if life and schedules will allow.

I know there are all kinds of groups with all kinds of levels of protocol and expectations. I'd advise learning as much as you can about the group before going to be sure you are in compliance. I always ask before approaching someone new, ask before hugging, kissing, or touching in any way. If they have specific limits, I respect them. It's like going to any other new group.

SD




Missokyst -> RE: How was your first munch? (11/21/2012 8:30:08 PM)

It used to be more dysfunctional than the current population, mostly due to several groups and old alliances. As the older groups fell by the wayside there seems to be less clashing. Now, as I stated before, it is best for the younger set. TNG is HUGE in Sac now. But, because there are so many it can be difficult to find a place that will hold such large numbers. And by large I mean about 50 or so dedicated members. Finding a location that is kink friendly and can hold that size of a group is hard to do in Sac.




descrite -> RE: How was your first munch? (11/22/2012 12:34:19 AM)

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I just checked with clip to verify. According to him, he would say no.

If I remember correctly, it was Michael who cleared the way for him. Since clip only made it to three, perhaps asking Michael would be a good resource.



Uhhhh....just out of curiosity: why the rampant enthusiasm (to the point of distraction, such that you forget to answer the thread title question, and are willing to offer hearsay) for a fight in which you have no dog?

You bored or something?




LadyPact -> RE: How was your first munch? (11/22/2012 6:52:45 AM)

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ORIGINAL: descrite
Uhhhh....just out of curiosity: why the rampant enthusiasm (to the point of distraction, such that you forget to answer the thread title question, and are willing to offer hearsay) for a fight in which you have no dog?

You bored or something?
We'll put the fact that I've answered the question in prior threads aside for the moment.

I wouldn't describe it as rampant enthusiasm. What I would call it would be the point that different people can have a completely different experience in the same location, sometimes with the very same people. Since My own submissive had very good things to say about the events that he went to there, I felt it fair to share that information, rather than just have people hear the negative remark. Especially after hearing good recommendations about people in the area from (Simply) Michael a few years back. Anybody who knows Michael knows that he doesn't blow smoke up anybody's ass if he feels the groups in a certain city suck, so that was just another reason to feel the positive should be mentioned.

In fact, it was Missokyst who already mentioned the points on how to make a munch experience more likely to be a positive one. Most people forget or don't employ the advice she mentioned. Often, it can make the difference in how well people are received at a munch. That's the better part of the thread. Not a dinner that I went to fifteen years ago.





descrite -> RE: How was your first munch? (11/22/2012 7:29:05 AM)

Well, it is good that you, personally, feel so strongly about someone else's opinion from "a few years back." I am sure that data is quite valuable and helpful. You are saving the cyberwebnets from negativity. Good job. 




LadyPact -> RE: How was your first munch? (11/22/2012 9:14:31 AM)

Are you saying you wouldn't value your submissive's opinion? Two-three years is generally not a severe change.

I'd have to ask Michael how many years he was/is associated with the scene there.




SimplyMichael -> RE: How was your first munch? (11/22/2012 9:48:10 AM)


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Well, it is good that you, personally, feel so strongly about someone else's opinion from "a few years back." I am sure that data is quite valuable and helpful. You are saving the cyberwebnets from negativity. Good job. 


I know the sacramento scene rather intimately, I am one of the major founders of it. I created what used to be, while I ran it, the largest group in sac, PleasureBound. When I ran it, we held amazing munches at The HardRock Cafe, now they hold it in the back of a pizza joint. I made sure the group supported other groups, its now very insular, sad and pathetic really.

The current playspace was run into the ground by someone who helped most groups, mine included get started but who always ended up alienating people. She is also thevreason sac is run by almost all tng groups. Her playspace is now owned by a man who loathed her with what used to be undying hate for a reason nobody knows.

There are some fucked predators who are only now welcomed after I left but are banned from other communities.

That said, as your average participant with the typical tng views and experience, its no worse than.most communitues. Except most of the older participants have bailed so its often the clueless mentoring the clueless.

There are a few bright spots. Sydistic does The Dominance Factor and he is a good guy. MsRebecca does fun events. Leather in Common, a womans group I used to support by letting them make custom padfles in my shop does a lot of cool events. The playspace is nice. Very active young crowd. And if you are sadistic, mention my name and watch certain peoples heads spin off.





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