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RE: Medical wait times by country - 11/18/2012 4:29:53 PM   
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What do your patients who have palliative care get???
when they are so full of cancer, they cant operate....when its as termianl as it can be, without actually killing them until it kills them, do you not give them morphine or other drugs to deal with the pain??
We had this discussion a while ago about LCP if you care to do a search on it... Search for Palliative too. look up feeding those in a coma. Or unable to eat...
Mistakes happen, families canot deal with the reality of deaths, its not pretty to see, its not pretty to deal with.
But seriously if you think that sedating a terminally ill patient doesnt happen in the good old USA< then you are not seeing facts.
Its called palliative care for a reason.

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RE: Medical wait times by country - 11/18/2012 5:23:12 PM   
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The question your parliament is now addressing in the case was where certain patients were heavily sedated and then deliberately keep from food or water with the motive of causing their deaths, and this was done without the information or consent of the patients, the patient's family or representatives, or even a doctor.

The reports claim, and it was legislatively discussed, that minor administrative functionaries in NHS made the decisions administratively in numbers of the studied cases, said to be in the hundreds.

However it might be viewed in the United States, this would be a criminal homicide here, and all involved in the "healthcare" would be severely punished.

It is also claimed that women outnumber men in the cases where this "treatment" is given.

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RE: Medical wait times by country - 11/18/2012 5:51:16 PM   
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http://www.nhs.uk/news/2012/11November/Pages/What-is-the-Liverpool-Care-Pathway.aspx

http://www.collarchat.com/m_4148065/mpage_1/tm.htm
http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-news/regional-news/2012/11/15/people-behind-the-controversial-liverpool-care-pathway-lcp-speak-out-in-its-defence-99623-32234356/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/9654565/The-Liverpool-Care-Pathway-leads-away-from-pain.html

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RE: Medical wait times by country - 11/18/2012 8:17:29 PM   
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quote:

However it might be viewed in the United States, this would be a criminal homicide here, and all involved in the "healthcare" would be severely punished.


YN, where is "here"?

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RE: Medical wait times by country - 11/18/2012 9:12:15 PM   
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Costa Rica.

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RE: Medical wait times by country - 11/18/2012 9:21:31 PM   
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¨La vida es inviolable"

If they can afford it, they simply go to Switzerland where they can have it done legally as a tourist.

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RE: Medical wait times by country - 11/18/2012 9:40:33 PM   
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From a Global News Article this week:

TORONTO - A new report says that over the last five years, the number of doctors in Canada has increased at a rate three times faster than that of the population.The Canadian Institute for Health Information says there were more than 72,500 physicians caring for patients in 2011, a rise of 14 per cent since 2007.The Canadian population grew 4.7 per cent over the same time period.Nova Scotia, Newfoundland and Labrador, and Quebec had the highest physician-to-population ratios, while Saskatchewan and Prince Edward Island had lowest.In 2011, 51 per cent of Canada’s doctors practised family medicine, while 49 per cent were medical and surgical specialists.The report also found that more doctors are practising in rural Canada compared to five years earlier, including 15 per cent of the country's general practitioners."The encouraging news is that the gap between the number of urban and rural family physicians is decreasing," Geoff Ballinger, CIHI's manager of health human resources, said Thursday in a statement."Many regions have implemented programs to persuade new graduates to work in rural areas. These initiatives encourage doctors to practise in communities where physician access would otherwise be difficult."Yet despite improvements, some rural communities continue to face doctor shortages.For instance, 3,000 residents of Enderby, B.C., will soon have only one doctor. Five doctors were practising in the northern Okanagan community until June, when two retired and one moved to Vancouver — and now a fourth is moving to Saskatchewan.The doctor shortage has forced closures or reduced hours at hospital emergency departments in several rural B.C. communities.The CIHI report also found a growing proportion of doctors are female. Last year, about 36 per cent of Canada’s doctors were women — a jump of 23 per cent from 2007. Over the same period, the number of male physicians rose by just nine per cent.At a provincial level, Quebec and New Brunswick had the highest percentages of female physicians last year, at 42 per cent and 36 per cent respectively. Prince Edward Island, at 28 per cent, and Saskatchewan and Manitoba, both at 32 per cent, had the lowest proportions of female doctors."Today, we have more physicians than ever before," Jean-Marie Berthelot, vice-president of programs at CIHI, said Thursday in a statement. "However, while numbers are increasing, they don’t tell the whole story."Better understanding of the organization of care, patient needs and physician workload will help determine whether or not increased physician numbers are translating into improved access to health care for all Canadians," he said.Read it on Global News: Global News | Number of doctors up, more practising in rural Canada, more women: report 

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RE: Medical wait times by country - 11/18/2012 9:59:41 PM   
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TORONTO - A new report says that over the last five years, the number of doctors in Canada has increased at a rate three times faster than that of the population.

The walk in clinic i used to go to had a few immigrant doctors working there, from South Africa.. If a doc has been trained in the countries with approved training (on the Canadian govt list), they are welcomed in Canada.. I expect those Doctor immigrants are part of the increase..

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RE: Medical wait times by country - 11/18/2012 10:10:41 PM   
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tj, I cannot tell you how many South African doctors we have in town now, but it must be over a dozen now. And, a few of them are just sexy as hell....

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RE: Medical wait times by country - 11/18/2012 10:17:16 PM   
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tj, I cannot tell you how many South African doctors we have in town now, but it must be over a dozen now. And, a few of them are just sexy as hell....

I know!!! I totally love their accent too, I would melt when they would talk, especially the redhead..

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