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RE: Dear Leader's Pack of Lies on Benghazi - 10/26/2012 8:27:50 PM   
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Firm,
Your article was nearly as interesting as the one underr it!

http://www.9news.com/news/story.aspx?catid=346&storyid=111490&odyssey=obinsite

Much more interesting!

Really would like to know what the sex toy was, to cause all that damage!

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RE: Dear Leader's Pack of Lies on Benghazi - 10/26/2012 8:30:47 PM   
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Firm,
Your article was nearly as interesting as the one underr it!
http://www.9news.com/news/story.aspx?catid=346&storyid=111490&odyssey=obinsite

Much more interesting!


That sounds like one of OUR fallen Soldierettes... I'll ready a pair of flag-draped granny panties ... no g-string for her for a while.
Lucy... we better conduct a roll-call.

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RE: Dear Leader's Pack of Lies on Benghazi - 10/26/2012 8:44:56 PM   
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The state department sent emails to all agencies including the White House situation room that an attack by an militant group with ties to al Qeida within 4 hours of the attack. They watched it happen in real time via video from a drone in the sky. Then for 2 weeks that lying scumbag went around telling us that it was just a protest of some video that had been on the Internet for 3 months.

Come on. Only a partisan hack wouldn't know the President of The United States lied.

Reelected!!?? He should be tried for treason and executed

You wouldn't have something to back that wouldya Mr Sock puppet?

Until there's someting to back it up, it's just more partisan asswipe.

I dunno, Hill.

Something stinks about the entire episode.

I don't know all the facts, and neither do you.

But Watergate took months to gain traction. It was ignored and belittled for a long time.

What I have found confounding is why would the Administration make up some crap (protest caused by a video), and why didn't any help get to the Americans holding off the attack for 7 hours, especially when it seems that the Administration was aware of it at the highest levels?

I can think of no good, honest reason for either of those events, especially with the continuing details that are dribbling out.

And Biden and his comments to the grieving family when their dead son's body is coming back to US soil .... that is so inappropriate, especially for a supposed experienced politician to lead me to believe that there is something else causing pressure on him, so that his equilibrium is off-kllter.

This entire thing just smells to high heaven.

Firm


Oh they looked into it, firm.....I know you heard about it......

"When House Republicans called a hearing in the middle of their long recess, you knew it would be something big, and indeed it was: They accidentally blew the CIA’s cover.
The purpose of Wednesday’s hearing of the Oversight and Government Reform Committee was to examine security lapses that led to the killing in Benghazi last month of the U.S. ambassador to Libya and three others. But in doing so, the lawmakers reminded us why “congressional intelligence” is an oxymoron"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/dana-milbank-letting-us-in-on-a-secret/2012/10/10/ba3136ca-132b-11e2-ba83-a7a396e6b2a7_story.html

AND.................


But Issa didn't bother to redact the names of Libyan civilians and local leaders mentioned in the cables, and just as with the WikiLeaks dump of State Department cables last year, the administration says that Issa has done damage to U.S. efforts to work with those Libyans and exposed them to physical danger from the very groups that had an interest in attacking the U.S. consulate.

"Much like WikiLeaks, when you dump a bunch of documents into the ether, there are a lot of unintended consequences," an administration official told The CableFriday afternoon. "This does damage to the individuals because they are named, danger to security cooperation because these are militias and groups that we work with and that is now well known, and danger to the investigation, because these people could help us down the road."
One of the cables released by Issa names a woman human rights activist who was leading a campaign against violence and was detained in Benghazi. She expressed fear for her safety to U.S. officials and criticized the Libyan government.

"This woman is trying to raise an anti-violence campaign on her own and came to the United States for help. She isn't publicly associated with the U.S. in any other way but she's now named in this cable. It's a danger to her life," the administration official said."


http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/10/19/issa_s_benghazi_document_dump_exposes_several_libyans_working_with_the_us



One thing that hasn`t been explained or justified yet is the premise that the administration had any clear political reason or advantage to gain by claiming the attack was tied to the video as opposed to a pre-planned assault.

You know this is mostly all bullshit firm......You`re just pretending ignorance...

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RE: Dear Leader's Pack of Lies on Benghazi - 10/26/2012 9:17:54 PM   
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One thing that hasn`t been explained or justified yet is the premise that the administration had any clear political reason or advantage to gain by claiming the attack was tied to the video as opposed to a pre-planned assault.

I agree.

Oh, I've seen "explanations", but I'd like more proof before I jump onto the bandwagon.

It was either normal bureaucratic screwup, or it was intentional.

If it was a screwup, then fine ... but why the WH kept up the untrue story for two weeks in a compounding of a "normal bureaucratic snafu" is beyond me. It would have been a doubling, or triple-downing on a bad situation. If true, this doesn't reflect well on the WH.

If it was intentional ... then, well, damn. I hope the floodgates of hell open up on the Administration, because they would deserve it.

Either way, I see no positive side for Obama. Do you?

Firm

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RE: Dear Leader's Pack of Lies on Benghazi - 10/26/2012 9:19:59 PM   
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Firm,
Your article was nearly as interesting as the one underr it!

http://www.9news.com/news/story.aspx?catid=346&storyid=111490&odyssey=obinsite

Much more interesting!

Really would like to know what the sex toy was, to cause all that damage!

Firm

The accident was reported to local fire and rescue personnel about 1:30 a.m. on March 7, from an address on Rogers Drive. The man who made the 911 call said he had placed a sex toy over a saber saw blade, and then used the power tool on his partner, but the blade cut through the plastic and injured the woman.

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RE: Dear Leader's Pack of Lies on Benghazi - 10/26/2012 9:34:33 PM   
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The accident was reported to local fire and rescue personnel about 1:30 a.m. on March 7, from an address on Rogers Drive. The man who made the 911 call said he had placed a sex toy over a saber saw blade, and then used the power tool on his partner, but the blade cut through the plastic and injured the woman.


Ouch!

Darwin award?

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RE: Dear Leader's Pack of Lies on Benghazi - 10/26/2012 9:40:53 PM   
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Yeah, my thanks to the seal for his service, and the old man is a whiny fucking bitch.


When did sister Mary Gibberish return Ron?

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RE: Dear Leader's Pack of Lies on Benghazi - 10/26/2012 9:41:56 PM   
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One thing that hasn`t been explained or justified yet is the premise that the administration had any clear political reason or advantage to gain by claiming the attack was tied to the video as opposed to a pre-planned assault.

It's always struck me that if we had spec ops guys hot on the heels of the scum that attacked our guys sowing some disinformation in the media, like we had no clue what had actually happened, it might improve theit safety and effectiveness but what the hell I wouldn't have pointed out a CIA base on a map during a public hearing.

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RE: Dear Leader's Pack of Lies on Benghazi - 10/26/2012 10:06:56 PM   
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If someone is going to start out with a premise that someone else is lying,.....they should have at the very least,a lie and proof of a lie and a plausible scenario to explain the motivations....

So far....nothing...

Just a lot of childish screaming and shouting and then........... running away and hiding ............like children.

C`mon kids......tell us what the big deal is?

Make pretend like no one believes a single word you say about Benghazi and that you have to convince us.

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RE: Dear Leader's Pack of Lies on Benghazi - 10/27/2012 6:45:47 AM   
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If Obama had done everything exactly as he has but instead of being a left-wing "Progressive" Democrat, he was a Conservative Republican you'd be screaming for his impeachment, you and I both know it. It's the way of you communist influenced "progressives" who have hijacked the once great Democrat Party.

As for the reelection of this catastrophic mistake you call Obama, it'll be fun talking to you and your ilk on November 7th! When you were still pooping your diapers (or maybe before) remember the last left-wing America hating "progressive" mistake called Jimmy Carter, he was leading by 8% 10 days before the election, and we all know how that worked out!! Reagan 409 EC votes Carter 49 EC votes!

Get used to hearing it: Mitt Romney, President of The United States! It's 10 days away!

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RE: Dear Leader's Pack of Lies on Benghazi - 10/27/2012 7:33:21 AM   
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LOL, the regressives are hot out of the Minneapolis Airport Bathroom with a load of fresh horseshit.

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RE: Dear Leader's Pack of Lies on Benghazi - 10/27/2012 8:08:51 AM   
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http://www.breitbart.com/system/wire/upiUPI-20121025-091455-9448

Meanwhile, a firestorm is still brewing over the release of diplomatic emails sent from the consulate as it was under attack. U.S. Ambassador to Libya Christopher Stevens and three other diplomatic staffers were killed. The debate over who knew what when about the Sept. 11 assault took another twist, when one of the more explosive emails may have been found to be inaccurate, CNN reported.

The emails, released late Tuesday, invigorated an already heated debate about when the Obama administration learned that the attack was the work of terrorists, not a protest over a U.S.-made anti-Muslim video that turned deadly.

An email with the subject line, "Update 2: Ansar al Sharia Claims Responsibility For Benghazi Attack," said in the body that "Embassy Tripoli reports the group has claimed responsibility on Facebook and Twitter and has called for an attack on Embassy Tripoli."

However, an examination of Ansar al-Sharia of Benghazi's known Facebook and Twitter accounts doesn't indicate any such claim of responsibility, Aaron Zelin, a research fellow at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy who tracks jihadist websites, told CNN.

Zelin said he was unaware that any such claim was posted on the official Facebook page or Twitter feed of Ansar al-Sharia in Benghazi.

Zelin said a posting referred to a news conference the al-Qaida-affiliated group had in Benghazi in which it denied any role in the assault. Among other things, the posting said, "Ansar al-Sharia brigade did not officially participate as a military body, nor received any orders directed from the brigade."

Before the possible contradiction in the spot report email and what was posted online by the organization, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz,, and two other Republican senators wrote Wednesday to Obama, saying: "These emails make clear that your administration knew within two hours of the attack that it was a terrorist act and that Ansar al-Sharia ... had claimed responsibility for it."

But wait...theres more
http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012/10/benghazi-libya-state-emails

There's only one problem—well, actually, there are many, but one big one: The email appears to have been incorrect. Ansar al-Sharia in Benghazi, the group suspected of attacking the consulate, never claimed responsibility for the assault. In fact, according to Aaron Zelin, a fellow at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy who monitors jihadist activity online, Ansar al-Sharia in Benghazi didn't post about the attack on its Facebook or Twitter page until September 12, the day after the attack. They expressed their approval of the incident, but they didn't take credit; they did imply members of the group might have been involved, according to Zelin, stating, "Katibat Ansar al-Sharia [in Benghazi] as a military did not participate formally/officially and not by direct orders." The statement also justifies the attack by implicitly alluding to the anti-Islam video linked to unrest in other parts of the Middle East, saying, "We commend the Libyan Muslim people in Benghazi [that were] against the attack on the [Muslim] Prophet [Muhammad]."

"It is possible staffers were mistaken in the heat of the moment," wrote Zelin in an email to Mother Jones. "Not only was there no statement from ASB until the following morning, but it did not claim responsibility." (Zelin provided Mother Jones with screenshots of AAS's Twitter feed and Facebook page, which he also provided to CNN. It's possible the posts could have been deleted, but there's no way to prove that.)

Even if the State Department email had been accurate, conservatives pounced on it eagerly without underlying corroboration, thereby providing a pretty good example of how complicated intelligence analysis can be and why it's a bad idea to simply jump on a piece of information that fits your preconceived biases. The email was just one piece of information gathered in the aftermath of the attack. While the White House's initial explanation that the attack had begun as a protest turned out to be wrong, the email itself doesn't bear on two of the major remaining questions: what role the video played and whether the attack was planned or spontaneous.

You'd think that this would be obvious, but in the future it's a good idea to remember that just because someone posts something on Facebook, that doesn't necessarily mean it's true. Even better: Just because someone said someone posted something on Facebook doesn't mean it's true. Even if you really, really want it to be.



And more
Less than a day after conservatives definitively called a set of emails from the State Department hard evidence that the Obama administration misled the public over the Sept. attack against a U.S. diplomatic mission in Libya, the accuracy of the emails’ content is coming under scrutiny.
While many on the right have labeled the email, which says that the Ansar al-Sharia militia had claimed credit for the assault in Benghazi on Facebook and Twitter, as a
“smoking gun,” the truth may be more complex than that. Aaron Zelin, Richard Borow fellow at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, extensively tracks jihadist groups’ presence on the Internet. In an interview with CNN, Zelin indicated that he’s seen no evidence that backs up the email’s claim that Ansar al-Sharia had taken responsibility for the attack:
http://thinkprogress.org/security/2012/10/25/1086871/doubts-smoking-gun-benghazi-emails/

and just to add to the fray....
http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/24/doubts-surface-over-e-mail-on-claim-of-responsibility-for-benghazi-attack/?iref=allsearch

Doubts surface over e-mail on claim of responsibility for Benghazi attack

Fox news say.....ooooooh nothing....

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RE: Dear Leader's Pack of Lies on Benghazi - 10/27/2012 9:10:29 AM   
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The hope by our extremist-rightists is that they can get a "scandal" going and scare enough folks with really vile mis-information that it`ll sway the election....


But as amature con-men(and women).....they`ve not done well and don`t have anything to work with......If they did,we`d have seen it by now....


So the strategy is to proclaim the President is lying(no need to say about what) and then demand Answers and a very high pitch and level of hisyorionics....


Scream ""FOUR AMERICANS DIED" a whole bunch.............. instead of explaining what these "lies" are or wtf it is they`re talking about..... 


Then run away like a child, after being caught cursing in front of mom and dad.....


Got one of these nutter-cons playing this schtick at my lunch place....I calmly asked him what the "lies" were....he couldn't`t say exactly....but he`s sure there there.


There was a back and forth about the "lies" about a half dozen times till I started bitch slapping him (politely of course) about how he`s been mis-lead by hannity(the main source of this fake scandal/tragedy-abuse) and fucks-news.


It ended with him stomping away(running away, like the con-children do here)without anything to say.


Cons want so much to have a scandal.....a real scandal, with a life of it`s own......Like Reagen, selling high-tech weapons to the Iranian Revolutionary Guard...Ya know...a crime...


But alas......they have to make one up.......and then play make pretend while no one listens.

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RE: Dear Leader's Pack of Lies on Benghazi - 10/27/2012 9:25:46 AM   
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Benghazi is history. Finished. Kaput.

Get over it.

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RE: Dear Leader's Pack of Lies on Benghazi - 10/27/2012 9:56:20 AM   
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Benghazi is not finished. It is just getting started. President Obama will sooner or later be forced to come clean with the truth. What did he know and when did he know it ?  

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RE: Dear Leader's Pack of Lies on Benghazi - 10/27/2012 9:58:25 AM   
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I thought you guys had that all figured out.

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RE: Dear Leader's Pack of Lies on Benghazi - 10/27/2012 10:10:22 AM   
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Benghazi is not finished. It is just getting started. President Obama will sooner or later be forced to come clean with the truth. What did he know and when did he know it ?  


You have`nt even told us what the lie is, yet....

Hundreds of opportunities and yet nothing.....nada..zilch,zero,bupkis,fuckle,-o-,didly-squat,nunya ,zip,
jack-shit ...............


So AGAIN....with all the freedom and time and space to tell us......

What were the lies......?



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RE: Dear Leader's Pack of Lies on Benghazi - 10/27/2012 10:33:19 AM   
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Benghazi is not finished. It is just getting started. President Obama will sooner or later be forced to come clean with the truth.

Why? He'll be out of power in a month or so, won't he?
Sounds like somebody forgot to take their koolaid this morning...


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RE: Dear Leader's Pack of Lies on Benghazi - 10/27/2012 10:57:12 AM   
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Benghazi is not finished. It is just getting started. President Obama will sooner or later be forced to come clean with the truth. What did he know and when did he know it ?  


Been almost an hour.....

Still waiting.......

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RE: Dear Leader's Pack of Lies on Benghazi - 10/27/2012 11:35:10 AM   
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Darwin award?

Firm


Darwin awards are only for killing yourself, not maiming somebody else.
(It helps if the story's an obvious urban myth as well, come to that...)

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