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thompsonx -> RE: Colin Powell (10/25/2012 4:54:50 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr

I would follow Gen. Powell to the very gates of Hell. I'd certainly vote for him!



Peace and comfort,



Michael



I would not follow that lying two faced piece of shit across the street to get to a free whore house.




DaddySatyr -> RE: Colin Powell (10/25/2012 4:56:12 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam
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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr
I would follow Gen. Powell to the very gates of Hell. I'd certainly vote for him!



Peace and comfort,



Michael


Likewise. He was (and is) a great leader. He WORKED to get what he has. He knows what it is to be a common man.


Not to mention that; as a general, he was trained to put aside his ego and delegate authority to the benefit of the mission. I wanted him in '08. I want him, now. Hell, I wanted him in 2000 and '04, too.

I have to admit that I would have been conflicted, had he run in 2000, though as I was a HUGE supporter for another (also ran) candidate.



Peace and comfort,



Michael




LookieNoNookie -> RE: Colin Powell (10/25/2012 4:59:08 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DomYngBlk

Last nail hitting mittens coffin


Ya know what? No matter who wins....that's my President, as Gore should have been.

Let's just pray that if one side wins more votes than the other, as Gore did....that the electoral college doesn't carry the day.

And if it does....I hope all you dumbasses who actually believe your vote means something....stands up and changes the gig.




thompsonx -> RE: Colin Powell (10/25/2012 5:04:12 PM)

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Not to mention that; as a general, he was trained to put aside his ego


A general officer in the u.s. army has no ego?[8|]




SadistDave -> RE: Colin Powell (10/25/2012 5:08:58 PM)

As a matter of fact, in 2009 Powell did an interview on Larry King and said that Obummers race was a factor in his endorsement. In response to Kings question about whether the belief that Powell had voted for Barry-O because he is black upset him, Powell said this:

"I didn't endorse him simply because he was black. I felt this was, you know, something to take into consideration."

Then he spoke briefly about his friendship with McCain, and added

"In the end, I cannot say I was totally colorblind, but in the end I convinced myself, based on the facts as I saw them, that he was a better choice for this time in our nations history."

Then they talked about how Powell had cried on election night, not because we had elected the right president for this time in our nations history, but because we elected a black president.

Now... I respect Colin Powell. I have his autobiography and frankly I found it very inspirational. However, his continued endorsement of the Liar in Chief is not news. It's not a game changer. It's not a revelation. It really wasn't a surprise or a revelation 4 years ago when he supported the Bamster, in part, because he is black. The only "news" about this is that a man as intelligent as Colin Powell doesn't realize that we simply elected the wrong black man.

-SD-




dcnovice -> RE: Colin Powell (10/25/2012 5:11:36 PM)

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Since he has failed to come up with any substantive facts to back up his assertions one is left with the obvious.

Until he does there will be 40 feet of snow in furnace creek before I apologize for stating the obvious.

He said clearly and concisely that he views General Powell as a liberal. Your disagreement with that view is not evidence of racism.

I can't, though, say I'm surprised by your refusal to apologize. Doing so takes integrity and maturity.


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thompsonx -> RE: Colin Powell (10/25/2012 5:21:02 PM)


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ORIGINAL: dcnovice

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Since he has failed to come up with any substantive facts to back up his assertions one is left with the obvious.

Until he does there will be 40 feet of snow in furnace creek before I apologize for stating the obvious.


He said clearly and concisely that he views General Powell as a liberal. Your disagreement with that view is not evidence of racism.


He views him as a liberal but fails to substantiate his "opinion" with any facts to support his "opinion"

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I can't, though, say I'm surprised by your refusal to apologize. Doing so takes integrity and maturity.



To apologize for stating the obvious shows a lack of integrity and maturity.





thompsonx -> RE: Colin Powell (10/25/2012 5:29:15 PM)

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I can't, though, say I'm surprised by your refusal to apologize. Doing so takes integrity and maturity.


In the six years that you and I have shared discussion this is the first time that you have been less than civil to me.
What is the cause of this lapse in your normal attitude of polite discussion?




dcnovice -> RE: Colin Powell (10/25/2012 5:38:38 PM)

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In the six years that you and I have shared discussion this is the first time that you have been less than civil to me.
What is the cause of this lapse in your normal attitude of polite discussion?

You publicly accused another poster of racism. When asked for evidence, you offered nothing but the illogical leap that his not spelling out to your satisfaction why he considered Powell a liberal was somehow "obvious" proof that he was motivated by race.

I think your unsupported charge of racism was both (a) a deeply unfair personal attack on another poster and (b) a trivialization of an important wound in the American body politic. That's the sort of thing that frays even my civility.




thompsonx -> RE: Colin Powell (10/25/2012 5:52:20 PM)

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ORIGINAL: dcnovice

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In the six years that you and I have shared discussion this is the first time that you have been less than civil to me.
What is the cause of this lapse in your normal attitude of polite discussion?

You publicly accused another poster of racism. When asked for evidence, you offered nothing but the illogical leap that his not spelling out to your satisfaction why he considered Powell a liberal was somehow "obvious" proof that he was motivated by race.

I think your unsupported charge of racism was both (a) a deeply unfair personal attack on another poster and (b) a trivialization of an important wound in the American body politic. That's the sort of thing that frays even my civility.


I would sugest you reread my posts concerning this subject. I have not "charged" anyone with racism. I have in fact questioned a posters position and so far that poster has yet to defend his position.
Your civility has not been frayed but ripped asunder. When weighed against your long and ,heretofore, unblemished history of civility it is stark and unsettling.




LookieNoNookie -> RE: Colin Powell (10/25/2012 5:55:50 PM)


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ORIGINAL: SadistDave

As a matter of fact, in 2009 Powell did an interview on Larry King and said that Obummers race was a factor in his endorsement. In response to Kings question about whether the belief that Powell had voted for Barry-O because he is black upset him, Powell said this:

"I didn't endorse him simply because he was black. I felt this was, you know, something to take into consideration."

Then he spoke briefly about his friendship with McCain, and added

"In the end, I cannot say I was totally colorblind, but in the end I convinced myself, based on the facts as I saw them, that he was a better choice for this time in our nations history."

Then they talked about how Powell had cried on election night, not because we had elected the right president for this time in our nations history, but because we elected a black president.

Now... I respect Colin Powell. I have his autobiography and frankly I found it very inspirational. However, his continued endorsement of the Liar in Chief is not news. It's not a game changer. It's not a revelation. It really wasn't a surprise or a revelation 4 years ago when he supported the Bamster, in part, because he is black. The only "news" about this is that a man as intelligent as Colin Powell doesn't realize that we simply elected the wrong black man.

-SD-


Gawdamn that was well presented!




FMRFGOPGAL -> RE: Colin Powell (10/25/2012 6:28:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: absolutchocolat

powell probably doesn't want the intense public scrutiny into his private life and anything he's said/done in the past. and who could blame him?

running for president is like the movie apocalypto...you run for miles dodging arrows and wild animals, only to survive and land into the hands of an even bigger challenge.


I think Powell would make a terrific President. But what I honestly think has happened is that he's a whole lot more of an independent operator than the GOP can handle. He'd  want to do his job and lead a nation. And they just want someone who won't veto them.




FMRFGOPGAL -> RE: Colin Powell (10/25/2012 6:34:46 PM)

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

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Not to mention that; as a general, he was trained to put aside his ego


A general officer in the u.s. army has no ego?[8|]


My guess is that you were in the army and he wasn't.




FMRFGOPGAL -> RE: Colin Powell (10/25/2012 6:40:32 PM)

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

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ORIGINAL: FMRFGOPGAL

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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Why, Because he is a liberal .He can say he's a republican or a moderate all he wants. He is a liberal.


Do you even know what a conservative is?


I want to put $5 down that says his answer is "Ceasar".



My money is on attila the hun.



Too Middle class... keep in mind who Tazzy asked.




dcnovice -> RE: Colin Powell (10/25/2012 6:43:52 PM)

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Then they talked about how Powell had cried on election night, not because we had elected the right president for this time in our nations history, but because we elected a black president.

That doesn't entirely surprise me. Against the backdrop of African-American history, the election of a black President did seem like a big milestone. I'm sure I'll mist up if any openly gay candidate wins the White House in my lifetime.

A favorite hymn puts it better than I could:

Stony the road we trod, bitter the chastening rod,
Felt in the days when hope unborn had died;
Yet with a steady beat, have not our weary feet,
Come to the place for which our fathers sighed?




FMRFGOPGAL -> RE: Colin Powell (10/25/2012 6:44:49 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

Well, one thing we can garner from this thread.

We have, yet another, shining example of what is wrong with the GOP.

And it ain't Colin Powell.

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FMRFGOPGAL -> RE: Colin Powell (10/25/2012 6:47:49 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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Why, Because he is a liberal .He can say he's a republican or a moderate all he wants. He is a liberal.


Do you even know what a conservative is?

He knows what the Kool-Aid delivery service tells him is a conservative.


Hilarious that I never got an answer!


But we had a great time wagering on the outcome.
[:D]




thompsonx -> RE: Colin Powell (10/25/2012 6:51:30 PM)


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ORIGINAL: FMRFGOPGAL

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

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Not to mention that; as a general, he was trained to put aside his ego


A general officer in the u.s. army has no ego?[8|]


My guess is that you were in the army and he wasn't.



I was never in the army, which is probably why I am still alive.




thompsonx -> RE: Colin Powell (10/25/2012 6:53:46 PM)


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ORIGINAL: dcnovice

That doesn't entirely surprise me. Against the backdrop of African-American history, the election of a black President did seem like a big milestone. I'm sure I'll mist up if any openly gay candidate wins the White House in my lifetime.



I would vote for barny frank




FMRFGOPGAL -> RE: Colin Powell (10/25/2012 7:18:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


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ORIGINAL: FMRFGOPGAL

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

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Not to mention that; as a general, he was trained to put aside his ego


A general officer in the u.s. army has no ego?[8|]


My guess is that you were in the army and he wasn't.



I was never in the army, which is probably why I am still alive.



My Dad (Navy liason officer in Korea) was and he frequently talks about the egos in the military.
What you said reminded me of that.




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