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Mezrem -> Man Fires Veteran for Being “Disabled Veteran” (10/24/2012 6:57:28 AM)

http://us-infantry.com/worst-person-in-the-world-man-fires-veteran-for-being-disabled-veteran/

"The former employee, Jonathan Brown, was a Marine that suffered wounds in service to our nation, in Operation Iraqi Freedom, that left him with a disability to his vision. The disability required him to go to the VA for treatment. It seems that Moreno felt that his needing to attend medical appointments just wasn’t working out, despite Brown making up the time he was missing, and fired him stating his being a disabled veteran as the reason."


I believe Moreno gets my vote for douche bag of the year. I would have to think twice before doing business with a company who would do this to a veteran.




Marc2b -> RE: Man Fires Veteran for Being “Disabled Veteran” (10/24/2012 7:09:22 AM)

Well, at least the son of a bitch was honest. Most dicks would have made up some bullshit excuse like "persistent tardiness," or something.




RacerJim -> RE: Man Fires Veteran for Being “Disabled Veteran” (10/24/2012 7:14:55 AM)

Of course the ACLU is hot on this case...not.

Time for a pistol dual at 20-paces. My bet is on the Veteran, even with his bad eyes.




DesideriScuri -> RE: Man Fires Veteran for Being “Disabled Veteran” (10/24/2012 7:31:44 AM)

FR,

Damn.




Moonhead -> RE: Man Fires Veteran for Being “Disabled Veteran” (10/24/2012 8:59:33 AM)


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ORIGINAL: RacerJim
Of course the ACLU is hot on this case...not.

You're sure of that? There's no mention of who is (or isn't) paying for the lad to sue his former employers in the OP's link or any of the additional sources that connects to.




FatDomDaddy -> RE: Man Fires Veteran for Being “Disabled Veteran” (10/24/2012 9:07:02 AM)

FR

I am a Veteran. I am a Veteran (USMC) with a 30% disability connected to my service, if true it is appalling.

But in the large general picture (I do not know the specifics in this case but I suspect the management flack in this case f-ed up royally ) simply being a Veteran does not entitle one to a free pass.

This case will settle no doubt and the Marine will be able to save his house with luck.





culareD -> RE: Man Fires Veteran for Being “Disabled Veteran” (10/24/2012 9:43:11 AM)

Semper Fi devil dog!

Veteran here too...sickens me to see this happen. I don't think this will go over well with the masses.

Ooh Rah!




Lucylastic -> RE: Man Fires Veteran for Being “Disabled Veteran” (10/24/2012 9:55:52 AM)

but but I thought the meme was employers dont NEED employees, they are doing them a favour....
*tongue buried in cheek*
good luck in droves to the Veteran




kalikshama -> RE: Man Fires Veteran for Being “Disabled Veteran” (10/24/2012 10:21:27 AM)

http://www.wistv.com/story/19881174/lawsuit-claims-former-marine-fired-for-being-disabled-veteran

...Brown said his boss, Jonathan Moreno, told him the reason he had to fire him was because he was a disabled veteran and wouldn't allow any discussion of his decision. "His mind was made up by the time he was even walking into the building," Brown said.

Brown said he was willing to work nights and weekends in order to make up the lost time, but said Moreno wouldn't entertain the arrangement. It was something Brown was already doing after working an arrangement out with his previous manager, "I stayed a lot later. Usually I'm supposed to be done by seven. I wouldn't leave the gym until easily nine or 10 o'clock, just to make sure I had everything straightened up and ready to roll for the next day."

"I have not seen a case that is so spelled out in black and white and is so clear a violation of the law, and obviously they need an education," Brown's attorney James Smith said. Smith, an Iraqi War veteran himself, filed the lawsuit for Brown in September. Smith said employers are required to make "reasonable accommodations" for employees with disabilities and argues that Brown's willingness to make up lost time was fair to both sides. "Those are reasonable accommodations, which must be made by an employer and they just need to understand that. Apparently they don't," Smith said.

We went to Moreno, who works at Gold's Gym in Lexington after leaving New Life Fitness World a few weeks after he fired Brown, for his side of the story. Moreno calls the claim that he fired Brown because he's a "disabled veteran," "horse [expletive]." Moreno's signature is at the bottom of the form, approving Brown's firing, which is marked, "disabled veteran."

Moreno told WIS the reason he fired Brown was because of customer service complaints, the gym was not clean and that Brown was not meeting his sales goals. Moreno declined an on camera interview to explain his decision to fire Brown. Brown's final pay check shows the gym paid him $150 in bonuses for meeting production, sales and membership goals. Moreno referred us to his former bosses for comment.

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Hillwilliam -> RE: Man Fires Veteran for Being “Disabled Veteran” (10/24/2012 10:48:02 AM)

Tongue HEAVILY in cheek here.

Maybe all the conservatives who are all for an employer's right to do as they like and that boycots are unjust because they just hurt the little guy won't like this.

I think this case needs a lot more local publicity. I'm sure there are other gyms in the area that would love the business. Possibly a boycott?




tazzygirl -> RE: Man Fires Veteran for Being “Disabled Veteran” (10/24/2012 10:48:49 AM)

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But in the large general picture (I do not know the specifics in this case but I suspect the management flack in this case f-ed up royally ) simply being a Veteran does not entitle one to a free pass.


Him being a veteran gave the story a push. Fact is, the man is protected under the Disability Act.

An employer is required to make a reasonable accommodation to the known disability of a qualified applicant or employee if it would not impose an “undue hardship” on the operation of the employer’s business. Reasonable accommodations are adjustments or modifications provided by an employer to enable people with disabilities to enjoy equal employment opportunities. Accommodations vary depending upon the needs of the individual applicant or employee. Not all people with disabilities (or even all people with the same disability) will require the same accommodation. For example:

A deaf applicant may need a sign language interpreter during the job interview.
An employee with diabetes may need regularly scheduled breaks during the workday to eat properly and monitor blood sugar and insulin levels.
A blind employee may need someone to read information posted on a bulletin board.
An employee with cancer may need leave to have radiation or chemotherapy treatments.

An employer does not have to provide a reasonable accommodation if it imposes an “undue hardship.” Undue hardship is defined as an action requiring significant difficulty or expense when considered in light of factors such as an employer’s size, financial resources, and the nature and structure of its operation.

An employer is not required to lower quality or production standards to make an accommodation; nor is an employer obligated to provide personal use items such as glasses or hearing aids.

An employer generally does not have to provide a reasonable accommodation unless an individual with a disability has asked for one. if an employer believes that a medical condition is causing a performance or conduct problem, it may ask the employee how to solve the problem and if the employee needs a reasonable accommodation. Once a reasonable accommodation is requested, the employer and the individual should discuss the individual's needs and identify the appropriate reasonable accommodation. Where more than one accommodation would work, the employer may choose the one that is less costly or that is easier to provide.


http://www.eeoc.gov/facts/fs-ada.html




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