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RE: faux-news Loses It!...After Ryan Gets Stomped.... - 10/13/2012 6:37:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'm still waiting for an explanation as to how Biden's smirk is close to being as irksome as the prior empty suit's smirk as well, come to that.

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RE: faux-news Loses It!...After Ryan Gets Stomped.... - 10/13/2012 6:48:11 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ask yourself this, Moon.....was Biden's a simian smirk?  There will be the crux of the resolution to this vexing question.  

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RE: faux-news Loses It!...After Ryan Gets Stomped.... - 10/13/2012 6:50:49 AM   
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That is an amazing response to someone that just said they hoped the cancer they had didn't return before being able to qualify for medicare on retirement. Amazing.



No, what was an amazing response was for someone to launch an emotional appeal about their personal health issues, when confronted with an argument of Democrat incompetence, on a thread about debate coverage.

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RE: faux-news Loses It!...After Ryan Gets Stomped.... - 10/13/2012 7:12:09 AM   
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Status: offline 		Considering our relationship to the great apes, as hominids ourselves, is it possible to have a non-simian smirk? By definition, any smirk we have is 'simian'

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RE: faux-news Loses It!...After Ryan Gets Stomped.... - 10/13/2012 7:29:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		It may not be the case that we wear our uncle's own smirk. That is all.



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RE: faux-news Loses It!...After Ryan Gets Stomped.... - 10/13/2012 8:03:25 AM   
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It's great that Biden kicked Ryan's ass. I'd like to see President Obama do the same to Romney. Unfortunately, President Obama didn't appear to be that good at debate the first round. Unless that changes, I'm concerned that Romney will win. If he does, I dread what the Supreme Court will be like once he picks right-wing extremist justices. Unlike Presidents, there are no term limits for Supreme Court Justices. Healthcare and the Supreme Court are far too important to be in the hands of Republican extremists.


I'm concerned that either of them will win.

Too bad there isn't a choice for "empty chair".

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RE: faux-news Loses It!...After Ryan Gets Stomped.... - 10/13/2012 9:09:40 AM   
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Ask yourself this, Moon.....was Biden's a simian smirk?  There will be the crux of the resolution to this vexing question.  

More smug, than simian, I suppose.
Are you saying that the Repukes resent Biden's smirk because it made his face look more like a human being than a chimpanzee that's just popped you a good one with a handful of its shit?

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RE: faux-news Loses It!...After Ryan Gets Stomped.... - 10/13/2012 9:17:36 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Krondool
Considering our relationship to the great apes, as hominids ourselves, is it possible to have a non-simian smirk? By definition, any smirk we have is 'simian'


You kind of make a good point but I am not sure that being hominids makes us simians, necessarily. I think monkees/apes are simians and we're humans.

According to the American Heritage dictionary as posted under Yahoo reference, I am correct. The definition for simian says nothing about humans; only monkees and apes.



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RE: faux-news Loses It!...After Ryan Gets Stomped.... - 10/13/2012 9:29:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think the simian tag was something that was invented specifically to put a gap between the human race and the rest of the great apes.

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RE: faux-news Loses It!...After Ryan Gets Stomped.... - 10/13/2012 9:33:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		Fwiw, Merriam-Webster (scroll down to the noun definition) and Wikipedia do include humans as simians.

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RE: faux-news Loses It!...After Ryan Gets Stomped.... - 10/13/2012 9:49:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		Actually, "simian" is from the Latin word that means "ape". It's not a modern construct as in "invented during the Scopes Monkee trial".

On the bottom of the page is the etymology of the word. Latin's been a dead language for quite a while so, it's doubtful that the word has changed much.
The Wiki Page on "Humans" shows the Human Zoological tree as:

Kingdom: Animalia

Phylum: Chordata

Class: Synapsida

Class: Mammalia

Order: Primates

Family: Hominidae

Tribe: Hominini

Genus: Homo

Species: Homo sapiens

The Wiki on Apes gives:

Kingdom: Animalia

Phylum: Chordata

Class: Mammalia

Order: Primates

Suborder: Haplorrhini

Infraorder: Simiiformes

Parvorder: Catarrhini

Superfamily: Hominoidea

So, apparently, even modern scientists don't think humans are very simian. The last thing we share in common with apes would be our "order" (primates).

I don't know that I would classify Biden's condescending, "I'm-a-better-human-being-than-you" smirk as "simian" but, I think he certainly wanted to give the impression that he was a different "breed" (presumably of person) than Mr. Ryan.

The "holier-than-thou" attitude is pervasive in quite a few politicians and Biden is well-practiced, obviously.



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RE: faux-news Loses It!...After Ryan Gets Stomped.... - 10/13/2012 10:00:13 AM   
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RE: faux-news Loses It!...After Ryan Gets Stomped.... - 10/13/2012 11:34:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		If I'm reading this Smithsonian taxonomy right, it seems to include Hominoidea (the superfamily that includes Homo sapiens) within the infraorder of Simiiformes.

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RE: faux-news Loses It!...After Ryan Gets Stomped.... - 10/14/2012 6:18:20 AM   
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That is an amazing response to someone that just said they hoped the cancer they had didn't return before being able to qualify for medicare on retirement. Amazing.



No, what was an amazing response was for someone to launch an emotional appeal about their personal health issues, when confronted with an argument of Democrat incompetence, on a thread about debate coverage.


The hits just keep on coming. Why do you hate Americans so much?

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RE: faux-news Loses It!...After Ryan Gets Stomped.... - 10/14/2012 7:06:59 AM   
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Why do you hate Americans so much?



Refresh my memory, DYB. Where was it that you spent your time in the service?


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RE: faux-news Loses It!...After Ryan Gets Stomped.... - 10/14/2012 7:49:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		Looks like I was mistaken about the taxonomical usage (simian is a more recent classification than anthropoid, but doesn't seem to have been adopted for the reason I thought), but I'd question Latin's deadness in the sense you mean. It's no longer widely spoken, but the meanings in taxonomy and other scientific classification systems are frequently revised, replaced or added to, and with the Pope's encyclicals being translated into Latin for the Vatican archives, there's been quite a few years where there have been more neologisms in Latin than in ostensibly still living but completely ossified languages like French.

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RE: faux-news Loses It!...After Ryan Gets Stomped.... - 10/14/2012 3:05:27 PM   
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Why do you hate Americans so much?



Refresh my memory, DYB. Where was it that you spent your time in the service?




Deference to your thoughts but....what has your comment got to do with his?

He didn't mention any military service....that was your issue.

Stay on topic.

If you want to teach someone....stay on topic.

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RE: faux-news Loses It!...After Ryan Gets Stomped.... - 10/14/2012 4:28:24 PM   
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Why do you hate Americans so much?



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Refresh my memory, DYB. Where was it that you spent your time in the service?




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Deference to your thoughts but....what has your comment got to do with his?

He didn't mention any military service....that was your issue.




It goes to whether my appropriate response to his extremely offensive and personal ad hominem attack is that he needs to shove it, or that he needs to shove it sideways, and dry.

Clear as mud, Lookie?

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RE: faux-news Loses It!...After Ryan Gets Stomped.... - 10/14/2012 5:01:27 PM   
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If he can't handle a smirking Joe Biden then how does he aspire to be a heartbeat away from the most powerful office in the world and have to deal with REAL nutcases like "ArmoredDinnerJacket"?

Will FOX be there to change his diaper and give him a clean binkie?



Why do you think he is a nutcase?

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RE: faux-news Loses It!...After Ryan Gets Stomped.... - 10/14/2012 5:03:58 PM   
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Lets see how the states are lining up.

Yep! The Willard campaign is in panic mode.



In 6th grade civics they teach the workings of the electoral college...the votes of the people are irrelevantand always have been.

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