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Obama Sets New Fundraising Record, Crushes Romney In Ad... - 9/21/2012 7:44:46 AM   
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/21/barack-obama-mitt-romney-fundraising_n_1902407.html?utm_hp_ref=elections-2012

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RE: Barack Obama Sets New Fundraising Record, Crushes R... - 9/21/2012 7:49:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		So you find it outstanding that Obama has to spend so much to beat Mitt Romney... lmao.

Think about it Owner... Your guy has to spend record amounts of money to beat a GOP candidate that no one really likes... What does that say about President Obama?

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RE: Barack Obama Sets New Fundraising Record, Crushes R... - 9/21/2012 7:50:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well, Obama will not get anywhere near the superPAC money that has been raised by the corporate capitulists ruining this country.

LMAO, party on rob.

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RE: Barack Obama Sets New Fundraising Record, Crushes R... - 9/21/2012 8:05:03 AM   
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Well, Obama will not get anywhere near the superPAC money that has been raised by the corporate capitulists ruining this countr.

LMAO, party on rob.

From my far away vantage point, this seems to be the only potential black spot on Obama's horizon. He's leading in virtually all the polls, and the trend is that the gap is increasing. Romney's campaign seems to be a series of gaffs joined together by a cold remote candidate who doesn't communicate well, or persuade people to like him.

So it seems that the only thing preventing an Obama victory could be massive spending by the private PACs in an attempt to buy the election. My hope is that whatever the politics of it, the super rich don't like throwing away money on losers and so may not contribute the massive amounts I initially feared.

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RE: Barack Obama Sets New Fundraising Record, Crushes R... - 9/21/2012 10:37:33 AM   
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has to spend so much to beat


If that's your feeling, then you must really think the Republican Party a incredible bunch of losers, since they are both the minority party in terms of national numbers and consistently have outspent Democrats by wide margins.

Not to worry. There's plenty of time for mega super-PAC money to post surprise bullshit yet.

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RE: Barack Obama Sets New Fundraising Record, Crushes R... - 9/21/2012 12:18:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		This certainly tells a different story than the DNC fund-raising letters and e-mails that bewail how Romney is out-spending Obama. Hmmmmm

I wonder if politicians are being dishonest with us?



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RE: Barack Obama Sets New Fundraising Record, Crushes R... - 9/21/2012 12:24:45 PM   
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RE: Barack Obama Sets New Fundraising Record, Crushes R... - 9/21/2012 1:38:15 PM   
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Well, Obama will not get anywhere near the superPAC money that has been raised by the corporate capitulists ruining this countr.

LMAO, party on rob.

From my far away vantage point, this seems to be the only potential black spot on Obama's horizon. He's leading in virtually all the polls, and the trend is that the gap is increasing. Romney's campaign seems to be a series of gaffs joined together by a cold remote candidate who doesn't communicate well, or persuade people to like him.

So it seems that the only thing preventing an Obama victory could be massive spending by the private PACs in an attempt to buy the election. My hope is that whatever the politics of it, the super rich don't like throwing away money on losers and so may not contribute the massive amounts I initially feared.


Startling... Hon, this is an  escalation process that has been going on since Nixon. and has mushroomed with "citizens united", which paved the way for Super PACs and the murky behavior we've seen this year where less than 5 Americans truly financed the republican primary. you can throw all the black marks you want, looking for the outside in. But why not in the same post give Obama credit for this:

http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/news/?id=f0efc69b-3cb7-4d79-9336-893ea55ce558

  I credit Obama for knowing what this whole funding fiasco takes away from governance and having the guts to speak up about the ethical aspects of it despite certain knowledge that there will be those who go after him with a "he blinked first" kind of logic.
   I am not by the way accusing you of that. Clearly being outside the country, your specific understanding of the facts is a bit behind the curve.

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RE: Barack Obama Sets New Fundraising Record, Crushes R... - 9/21/2012 1:49:09 PM   
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RE: Obama Sets New Fundraising Record, Crushes Romney I... - 9/21/2012 2:10:16 PM   
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Outstanding!



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/21/barack-obama-mitt-romney-fundraising_n_1902407.html?utm_hp_ref=elections-2012



The left does a good job making lemonaid out of lemons and calling it wine.

Obama outraised Romney in August by twenty odd million. Good thing since Obama's war chest is about depleted having spent most of it already before the convention whereas Mitt's money could not really be spent until after the convention, since he was not able to touch it until he accepted the nomination there.

So, it is true Obama does need more money and will run out soon and it is true he will spend it as fast as it comes in to keep the negative pressure on Romney as long as possible. It is also true that Mitt has a larger war chest and is using it in the contested states and will likely, from all accounts, out-spend Obama during the run-up to the elections in those states when it is said and done.

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RE: Obama Sets New Fundraising Record, Crushes Romney I... - 9/21/2012 2:16:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		This is very similar in most regards to the Carter - Reagan run-up to the elections. The debates will perhaps determine the election outcome regardless of spending amounts, don't you think? Before that happens, someone needs to brief Obama on how much the budge deficit currently is since he did not seem to know when on Television the other night. It appears he just reads teleprompters and if the number is not there then he has no clue.

Outstanding!

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RE: Obama Sets New Fundraising Record, Crushes Romney I... - 9/21/2012 2:17:27 PM   
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RE: Obama Sets New Fundraising Record, Crushes Romney I... - 9/21/2012 2:39:04 PM   
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The right does a poor job of blaming the debt on other than the right who created that debt.


Hardly, when Obama took office our debt was 10.6 trillion. As of April 16, 2012, 39 months later our debt was 15.5 trillion. During Obama's first term the government accumulated more debt than the first 219 years of this Republic.
Like I said, it would be good if he actually knew something more than was on his teleprompter. Here's the issue come the debates with Romney, there will not be a teleprompter and it will be outstanding!


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RE: Obama Sets New Fundraising Record, Crushes Romney I... - 9/21/2012 2:43:04 PM   
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Oh, Romney without a teleprompter:

So, how do you account for 47% of americans being victims Willard? 

How is he gonna answer that?

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RE: Obama Sets New Fundraising Record, Crushes Romney I... - 9/21/2012 2:50:35 PM   
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The right does a poor job of blaming the debt on other than the right who created that debt.


Hardly, when Obama took office our debt was 10.6 trillion. As of April 16, 2012, 39 months later our debt was 15.5 trillion. During Obama's first term the government accumulated more debt than the first 219 years of this Republic.
Like I said, it would be good if he actually knew something more than was on his teleprompter. Here's the issue come the debates with Romney, there will not be a teleprompter and it will be outstanding!




Oh, and somebody needs to tell him that the 9/11 attack on our embassy, the one in which Ambassador Chris Stevens was so horribly raped and killed by Al Quaeda in Libya was indeed a pre-planned attack led by a Getmo former prisoner because although his staff finally admitted this he was still blaming it on the "video" today.

Understandable since this means Mitt was right in his statement on 9/12 critcizing Obama's administration for apologizing for the video (like that was the real cause, NOT!) and later for pretending an attack on 9/11 was not an organized terrorist attack. Understandable since this means the Obama administration thought the war on terror was over and neglected to protect U.S. interests in the mid-east on 9/11!!! with the result that we are now looked upon as weak and Ambassador Stevens was murdered along with two others and soon there were more deaths of Americans while Obama spent time campaigning and appearing on Letterman.

tick tock. tick tock.

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RE: Obama Sets New Fundraising Record, Crushes Romney I... - 9/21/2012 2:56:46 PM   
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RE: Obama Sets New Fundraising Record, Crushes Romney I... - 9/21/2012 3:12:49 PM   
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That is during a republican house, there aint no money changing hands without they authorize it.

Oh, Romney without a teleprompter:

So, how do you account for 47% of americans being victims Willard? 

How is he gonna answer that?


Sorry again, that money was authorzed when both houses were under Obama in the first twenty four (24) months of that 39 month time-frame. Since then, the Republican House has tried to cut the spending and get a budget passed and the Senate protected those spending programs and so nothing has been accomplished since then.

Romney without a teleprompter: He sounds great especially when asked by left leaning "news" reporters if he was going to take back what he said about many Americans not wanting to pay taxes or work, he said "No, my job is to not play to the public but to say the truth and act on it and I will never apologize for the truth".

"un-truth". The attack on our embassy on 9/11 was an unplanned demonstration against a video already out for months rather than mid-eastern operatives feeling we are weak enought to be attacked again (the Obama administration), "You did not build that business of yours"-Obama, "the middle class are in good shape" - Obama, "I work for all Americans" -Obama, "The debt? We don't have to worry about it short term" - Obama on Letterman, "When I walked into office we had a trillion dollar defict" - Obama (pisst...it was a little over 10 trillion).

"truth". That is one Mitt gaff to six for Obama.

Yes, this will be interesting.

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RE: Obama Sets New Fundraising Record, Crushes Romney I... - 9/21/2012 3:13:20 PM   
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Good thing since Obama's war chest is about depleted having spent most of it already before the convention whereas Mitt's money could not really be spent until after the convention, since he was not able to touch it until he accepted the nomination there.

So, it is true Obama does need more money and will run out soon and it is true he will spend it as fast as it comes in to keep the negative pressure on Romney as long as possible. It is also true that Mitt has a larger war chest and is using it in the contested states and will likely, from all accounts, out-spend Obama during the run-up to the elections in those states when it is said and done.

Outstanding!


Fundraising:

Obama: 432 million
Romney: 279 million

Outside spending (SuperPacs etc.):

Obama: 30 million
Romeny: 84 million

Cash on hand:

Obama: 89 million
Romney: 50 million

Debt:

Obama: 3 million
Romney: 15 million

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RE: Barack Obama Sets New Fundraising Record, Crushes R... - 9/21/2012 4:06:09 PM   
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This certainly tells a different story than the DNC fund-raising letters and e-mails that bewail how Romney is out-spending Obama. Hmmmmm

I wonder if politicians are being dishonest with us?


The DNC fundraising has indeed been lagging behind that of the RNC. Fortunately for President Obama, he has additionally sources of funds.

http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/RNC-DNC-Fundraising-Rove/2012/09/21/id/457138

RNC Trounces DNC in Recent Fundraising

Friday, 21 Sep 2012 02:26 PM

The Republican National Committee (RNC) is scoring a huge fundraising advantage over its Democratic counterpart, the latest federal filings show.

The RNC raised $35.6 million in August, nearly three times the $13.6 million brought in by the Democratic National Committee (DNC), Politico reports.

The gap is truly monstrous when it comes to cash on hand. The RNC had $75.6 million as of Aug. 31, more than 10 times the DNC total of $7.1 million.

The RNC spent $47.8 million in August, while the DNC spent almost $22 million. As for debt, the RNC owes nearly $10 million to BB&T, while the DNC owes $11 million, mostly to Amalgamated Bank.

In other good fundraising news for the GOP, American Crossroads, the Karl Rove-linked super PAC, garnered $9.4 million in August, up from $7.1 million in July, Politico reports. The group has $32 million in cash on hand.

Some of the biggest donations last month came from Bob Perry, president of Perry Homes, $2 million; Clayton Williams Energy of Texas, $1 million; and B. Wayne Hughes, chairman of Spendthrift Farm, $1 million.


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RE: Obama Sets New Fundraising Record, Crushes Romney I... - 9/21/2012 5:26:24 PM   
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The right does a poor job of blaming the debt on other than the right who created that debt.


If you think thats funny, wait until the find out life is tougher under Romneys tax and spend plans.

Anyone thinking Romney can raise huge sums to spend on the military while magically reducing the deficit, should start looking for tax havens.

Edited due to an accute vowel problem.


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