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GreedyTop -> Space Shuttle Endeavour (9/19/2012 1:35:16 AM)

begins its final trip this morning.

http://news.yahoo.com/watch-space-shuttle-endeavours-ferry-flight-online-today-065140808.html




ARIES83 -> RE: Space Shuttle Endeavour (9/19/2012 2:51:12 AM)

I was really not impressed that they don't
have a successor spaceplane...

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orion_(Constellation_program)
The new vehicle isn't just a step backward IMO
It's a leap...
They went from a vehicle that could glide and
land on a runway to a re-entry capsule!
They had those in I Dream of Genie for crying
out loud.

-Aries

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/CST-100
Omg... Obama you asshole...




lilmissdefiant -> RE: Space Shuttle Endeavour (9/19/2012 2:57:15 AM)

Would be nice is some other country would step up and take the slack for it...I mean we're gonna burn out this planet eventually, wouldn't be a good idea to find another to destroy before we do that...Sorry I've been watching too much Stargate Atlantis




RemoteUser -> RE: Space Shuttle Endeavour (9/19/2012 9:14:42 AM)

Well Canada has been spending funds all over the place for useless reasons...maybe someone will buy a clue and do something neat for once, like establish a few space vehicles. That would be cool.




GreedyTop -> RE: Space Shuttle Endeavour (9/19/2012 10:19:58 AM)

More about Endeavour: first stop in Houston: http://news.yahoo.com/space-shuttle-endeavour-lands-houston-during-final-ferry-162630941.html


I am looking forward to the footage of it traveling through L.A.....




TheHeretic -> RE: Space Shuttle Endeavour (9/19/2012 8:00:36 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

I am looking forward to the footage of it traveling through L.A.....


They'll be flying low passes over my area on Friday morning. Pics promised, if I get any good ones!




GreedyTop -> RE: Space Shuttle Endeavour (9/19/2012 8:22:56 PM)

THANKS!! I was in the midst of end of shift stuff thsi morning, so didn't get to watch the takeoff, dammit....




Aneirin -> RE: Space Shuttle Endeavour (9/19/2012 11:42:38 PM)

A sad end to a fantastic idea space travel truly is stepping backwards, but who to step up to the plate next- China ?

And what happened to HOTOL ?

As to think about it HOTOL or a derivative is the next logical step forward as it uses it's own engines to take off from the horizontal, obtain space, deliver then land again under it's own engines, engines that are jet in air and convert to rocket in space, then back again.




DomKen -> RE: Space Shuttle Endeavour (9/19/2012 11:52:30 PM)

Actually the private spaceship companies seem close to making it to the ISS.




TheHeretic -> RE: Space Shuttle Endeavour (9/20/2012 7:40:37 PM)

Endeavor arrived at Edwards Air Force Base, early this afternoon. It turns out that I was able to get close enough for a decent snapshot.



[image]local://upfiles/409734/B1735011C4C840CF9EF2E079AF4BD785.jpg[/image]




SWDesertDom -> RE: Space Shuttle Endeavour (9/20/2012 8:06:48 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: ARIES83

I was really not impressed that they don't
have a successor spaceplane...

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orion_(Constellation_program)
The new vehicle isn't just a step backward IMO
It's a leap...
They went from a vehicle that could glide and
land on a runway to a re-entry capsule!
They had those in I Dream of Genie for crying
out loud.

-Aries

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/CST-100
Omg... Obama you asshole...


Spaceplanes are too problematic. Unless it's small enough to be launched on top of a rocket, they are inherently unsafe (the re-entry shield is exposed to damage). They are less weight efficient than capsules. There is no powered abort mechanism. Etc...

Until a plane is designed with an engine efficient enough to propel it into space under its own power (without a rocket to get it there), capsules are superior.




TheHeretic -> RE: Space Shuttle Endeavour (9/20/2012 9:23:08 PM)

With some stuff for scale

[image]local://upfiles/409734/DAD45966636444B6930436409A059DF2.jpg[/image]




playfulotter -> RE: Space Shuttle Endeavour (9/21/2012 2:22:46 PM)

I saw it at about 11:45 am from my balcony flying over the ocean. It was about 3/4 miles away but it was very clear and very neat to see! I waited till they said it was near where I am on the TV station and bam....there it was!




Aneirin -> RE: Space Shuttle Endeavour (9/21/2012 2:48:51 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: SWDesertDom


quote:

ORIGINAL: ARIES83

I was really not impressed that they don't
have a successor spaceplane...

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orion_(Constellation_program)
The new vehicle isn't just a step backward IMO
It's a leap...
They went from a vehicle that could glide and
land on a runway to a re-entry capsule!
They had those in I Dream of Genie for crying
out loud.

-Aries

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/CST-100
Omg... Obama you asshole...


Spaceplanes are too problematic. Unless it's small enough to be launched on top of a rocket, they are inherently unsafe (the re-entry shield is exposed to damage). They are less weight efficient than capsules. There is no powered abort mechanism. Etc...

Until a plane is designed with an engine efficient enough to propel it into space under its own power (without a rocket to get it there), capsules are superior.



HOTOL was designed to be that in the early 1980's, but now I understand the project has been picked up again under the name SKYLON




igor2003 -> RE: Space Shuttle Endeavour (9/21/2012 3:13:14 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: SWDesertDom


quote:

ORIGINAL: ARIES83

I was really not impressed that they don't
have a successor spaceplane...

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orion_(Constellation_program)
The new vehicle isn't just a step backward IMO
It's a leap...
They went from a vehicle that could glide and
land on a runway to a re-entry capsule!
They had those in I Dream of Genie for crying
out loud.

-Aries

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/CST-100
Omg... Obama you asshole...


Spaceplanes are too problematic. Unless it's small enough to be launched on top of a rocket, they are inherently unsafe (the re-entry shield is exposed to damage). They are less weight efficient than capsules. There is no powered abort mechanism. Etc...

Until a plane is designed with an engine efficient enough to propel it into space under its own power (without a rocket to get it there), capsules are superior.



Ask and you shall receive...or at least it looks like it might be getting close: http://www.wimp.com/prototypeengine/




ARIES83 -> RE: Space Shuttle Endeavour (9/21/2012 4:08:30 PM)

That was interesting thanks




GreedyTop -> RE: Space Shuttle Endeavour (9/21/2012 6:47:32 PM)

Thanks for the pics!!!!!




GreedyTop -> RE: Space Shuttle Endeavour (9/22/2012 9:53:45 AM)

http://news.yahoo.com/los-angeles-landing-shuttle-endeavour-one-final-journey-153043226.html

THIS is what I would love to watch. FML. It's all going to go down when I am sleeping.....




TheHeretic -> RE: Space Shuttle Endeavour (9/22/2012 10:16:46 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

Thanks for the pics!!!!!



If a test pilot ever asks you to help move a piano, and he'll owe you a big one, help move the piano!




GreedyTop -> RE: Space Shuttle Endeavour (9/22/2012 10:25:44 AM)

LOL I would help move a glacier, (if I could get the pilot to take me for a ride... IN THE AIRCRAFT!!!) *grin*

Thanks again for the pics :) you totally made my day :)




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