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RE: tolerance among us - 6/11/2006 9:33:17 AM   
lisa1978


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Status: offline 		We are not more tolerant than anybody else on this planet. We all practice the “our shit does not stink”. Some more then others but all of us do practice it. So when people write something that we disagree with we respond, depending on our personality, mood, tone of the writing, how passionate we are on the topic and other things decide how tolerant we are that day.   Most message boards I have seen people do not bash spelling and grammar mistakes, including this one. I know on shorter messages even after proof reading them some misspelled words and simple grammar mistakes I have done nobody pointed them out. I do see it on threads were people say some really stupid or inflammatory things as a way to rip that person or people trying to be humorous at the expense of another. I agree though with most who post so far, writing is a communication skill and how one communicates does matter no matter how much we wish it does not. Some proof reading and type in a word processor first is always a smart thing to do.  

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RE: tolerance among us - 6/11/2006 9:40:18 AM   
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Status: offline 		I suppose that I should not be surprised, but I do have to share in the sentiment that there seem to be an inordinately large percentage of raging malcontents on this site. Not all (or even close) of course; but there do seem to be lots of folks just waiting to take instant offense and pounce for the kill. To the doms & dommes: you must have control of yourself before you can control anyone else with anything other than brute force (which never works in the long run).

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RE: tolerance among us - 6/11/2006 9:41:50 AM   
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I've never claimed to be a particularly Tolerant person.  Open minded?  Yes, definately.  Tolerant?  Pffffttttttttt - tolerance is highly overrated and easily becomes a slippery slope when it starts being preached at me.  My tolerance ends with the concept of your kink isn't necessarily my kink, and as long as your kink is Consensual, I won't bug you about it (to much.)
 
I've spent a lot of time over the years as a Tutor and Instructor of English at the college level, both as a general tutor for those struggling to master Composition and as a teaching assistant for those learning English as a Second Language.  During my years as a professional tutor, I specialized in working with those who had specific learning disabilities.  I've spent some time as an Editor, due to my persuit of Writing as both a hobby and profession.  My training has lent itself to the formation of habits like automatically scanning with an eye towards spelling, grammer, and Punctuation.  Those are the core of written communication.  In a media where the written word is the Only means of conveying intent, it becomes critical that such issues be addressed.  Often I find myself wondering when the standards lowered so drastically, that people managed to get out of elementary school when they're barely capable of spelling their own name, are incapable of basic comprehension past the 5th grade level, and can't structure a sentence to save their souls.
 
Am I an eliltist?  Rarely.  Am I a Snob?  Probably, but not towards material possessions.  Am I sometimes judgemental?  Yep.  That one I freely admit to.  It's part of the basic human psyche, and impossible to completely escape unless one is willing to cease having opinions and preferences - both of which are things that I treasure.
 
(Ghods I just love that quick responce feature when I don't want to write multiple posts)


Sorry, it's like my fingers did it on their own.......

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RE: tolerance among us - 6/11/2006 9:43:29 AM   
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ORIGINAL: hizgeorgiapeach

I've never claimed to be a particularly Tolerant person.  Open minded?  Yes, definately.  Tolerant?  Pffffttttttttt - tolerance is highly overrated and easily becomes a slippery slope when it starts being preached at me.  My tolerance ends with the concept of your kink isn't necessarily my kink, and as long as your kink is Consensual, I won't bug you about it (to much.)
 
I've spent a lot of time over the years as a Tutor and Instructor of English at the college level, both as a general tutor for those struggling to master Composition and as a teaching assistant for those learning English as a Second Language.  During my years as a professional tutor, I specialized in working with those who had specific learning disabilities.  I've spent some time as an Editor, due to my persuit of Writing as both a hobby and profession.  My training has lent itself to the formation of habits like automatically scanning with an eye towards spelling, grammer, and Punctuation.  Those are the core of written communication.  In a media where the written word is the Only means of conveying intent, it becomes critical that such issues be addressed.  Often I find myself wondering when the standards lowered so drastically, that people managed to get out of elementary school when they're barely capable of spelling their own name, are incapable of basic comprehension past the 5th grade level, and can't structure a sentence to save their souls.
 
Am I an eliltist?  Rarely.  Am I a Snob?  Probably, but not towards material possessions.  Am I sometimes judgemental?  Yep.  That one I freely admit to.  It's part of the basic human psyche, and impossible to completely escape unless one is willing to cease having opinions and preferences - both of which are things that I treasure.
 
(Ghods I just love that quick responce feature when I don't want to write multiple posts)


Sorry, it's like my fingers did it on their own.......


Mine were itching to, I swear.

On the topic, no we're not more tolerant.  We spout off about it often enough we should be, but we're not.  Simple as that.

*edited to fix my own typo*

< Message edited by feastie -- 6/11/2006 9:44:07 AM >

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RE: tolerance among us - 6/11/2006 9:44:26 AM   
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Sorry, it's like my fingers did it on their own.......

Dayrum*Wonders if Levels fingers work well in other areas....
(what??? a woman can think can't she???)
 
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RE: tolerance among us - 6/11/2006 9:44:47 AM   
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Ghods


OK, so was this gods or jihads?

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RE: tolerance among us - 6/11/2006 9:46:38 AM   
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ORIGINAL: feastie

Mine were itching to, I swear.

On the topic, no we're not more tolerant.  We spout off about it often enough we should be, but we're not.  Simple as that.

*edited to fix my own typo*


*scratches feastie's fingers*
 
And to let Rhi know, I was just teasing.

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RE: tolerance among us - 6/11/2006 9:48:00 AM   
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ORIGINAL: darkinshadows

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ORIGINAL: Level
Sorry, it's like my fingers did it on their own.......

Dayrum*Wonders if Levels fingers work well in other areas....
(what??? a woman can think can't she???)
 
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RE: tolerance among us - 6/11/2006 9:53:03 AM   
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ORIGINAL: darkinshadows

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ORIGINAL: Level
Sorry, it's like my fingers did it on their own.......

Dayrum*Wonders if Levels fingers work well in other areas....
(what??? a woman can think can't she???)
 
Peace and Rapture



My fingers (and left elbow) are registered as Lethal Weapons of Love, I'll have you know.


Submits with grace - gives in and just sighs....
 
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RE: tolerance among us - 6/11/2006 9:54:13 AM   
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Glad W/we are all so accepting of each other.  After all in my life i don't have enough vanilla folks thinking up ways to criticize me.  Oh well on with life the way i choose to let it be as a submissive.  Bty a very dear Friend has dyslexia and sometimes our private messages are difficult for me to understand.  He is worthy of taking the time to understand.  And W/we both have MS degrees.  Imagine   how odd it is that we have to truly listen to each other to understand each other in writing.



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RE: tolerance among us - 6/11/2006 10:00:55 AM   
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Glad W/we are all so accepting of each other.  After all in my life i don't have enough vanilla folks thinking up ways to criticize me.  Oh well on with life the way i choose to let it be as a submissive.  Bty a very dear Friend has dyslexia and sometimes our private messages are difficult for me to understand.  He is worthy of taking the time to understand.  And W/we both have MS degrees.  Imagine   how odd it is that we have to truly listen to each other to understand each other in writing.





Of course, we don't "all accept" each other. We could use a bit more of it, for sure. And I would never say, nor think, that someone with a learning disability was not worth knowing, or loving. I try to be a decent man, but sometimes I do give offense..... and what bothers me the most is that sometimes I like it. If even for a brief moment, before my heart starts to work again.
 
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RE: tolerance among us - 6/11/2006 10:07:39 AM   
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Mine were itching to, I swear.

On the topic, no we're not more tolerant.  We spout off about it often enough we should be, but we're not.  Simple as that.

*edited to fix my own typo*


*scratches feastie's fingers*
 
And to let Rhi know, I was just teasing.


Oh to have a tail to thump.

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RE: tolerance among us - 6/11/2006 10:13:12 AM   
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RE: tolerance among us - 6/11/2006 10:32:09 AM   
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ORIGINAL: diamonddreamlove
Glad W/we are all so accepting of each other.  After all in my life i don't have enough vanilla folks thinking up ways to criticize me. 


You make a sarcastic comment about acceptance, and with your next sentence you show little acceptance of the people who do not participate in BDSM.

Why is that so often when I see the term "vanilla" used, it is meant to be derogatory towards those who choose not to engage in BDSM?  Must be why I dislike that term so much. 

There, that is my intolerance for the day, I am intolerant of the people who choose to denegrate a perfectly acceptable flavor of icecream.  *tongue firmly in cheek*

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RE: tolerance among us - 6/11/2006 10:33:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		It seems like you're talking about two different things here: intolerance and correcting spelling and grammar errors.  Which is the one that really bothers you?

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ORIGINAL: eroticangel

this post is surely not going to be a favorable one...but i have to say what is on my mind. So many times when i am reading peoples post here, i think that they arae writing from the heart...as i read further i see downright rudeness from some of us to others. about grammar and using spell check and their ideas. this is an open post. sometimes we come here emotional and just start typing. maybe the grammer and spelling i off....SO WHAT! some people post because they need the wisdom and advice some can give them. Our lifestyle is about tolerance...and understanding my kink may not be yours but we keep an open mind. why can't we keep an open mind to someone who may not be the best speller?????

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RE: tolerance among us - 6/11/2006 10:44:55 AM   
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Status: offline 		I don't think we, in the lifestyle are more tolerant at all.  Ultimately, people are people.  We may be more tolerant about intimate acts the majority of the population thinks is deviant behavior, but I haven't seen a trend here to be tolerant about anything else. 

People who come to an online forum, are generally people who enjoy reading and writing.  Those who enjoy reading and writing are more inclined to expect sentences which are not full of typos when spell check sits on the same page  the writer is typing on.   Who would value what the author of a book said, if it were full of spelling errors and no punctuation?

I don't think it's nice to insult someone after reading an incoherent post, but I don't see anything wrong in giving less credibility to a post full of typos,  misspelled words, non-capitalization when spell check is a relatively easy thing to use.  Does the person not care enough about the reader to bother presenting his thoughts as clearly as possible?   

In regards to the dyslexic individual one spoke of; sure there are always exceptions, though, this educated person when turning in a thesis paper, or writing in an online forum would likely use spell check prior to submitting it... personal communications/IM, etc. are different than the way you present  yourself  to the public.  A profile, blog, post, etc. which contains my heartfelt thoughts are worthy of presentation in a way which the people reading it can understand what I am saying, whether they agree with it, or not.  I would much rather have someone say 'I see what you are saying, and you are wrong', than to have someone think 'who cares what she is saying, all I see is a bunch of grammatical errors'.

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RE: tolerance among us - 6/11/2006 10:46:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		The lifestyle is only ever what you define and design it to be, and these forums and various bulletin boards all over the internet sometimes can look like a great consensus of opinions but it is not, there is no such thing, never was, who knows if it ever will be.
 
As to spelling though, there really is no excuse, on other forums you have to copy and paste in your own spell check, here at collar me there is one built in. (the ABC over the check mark)

I think we come here to hear our selves think, and sometimes to hear ourselves talk, and maybe on the rare occasion to find a new perspective or toy with a new idea. But I think its because most of us have way too much free time on our hands, myself included, and have not found a more constructive use for it.

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RE: tolerance among us - 6/11/2006 10:48:28 AM   
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RE: tolerance among us - 6/11/2006 10:54:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		I do not understand why people nit pick on the miss spelled words, or wrongfully stated sentences either. That is being petty. And I do think that Oones of the lifestyle are more open minded and understanding than any other group or organization. Including christians. At least Wwe should be. And I will say this now before I get jumped by someone. These are my opinions. Not facts. Wwe do, and agree to wayyyy more than the vanilla world. And I know there are christians within the lifestyle and I am not in any way going to bash anyone. But there are different views with different people. Such as Transvestites, gays, lesbians, bi-sexual. NONE of those are christian-like. And Are condimed to hell for it. ( I was raised in church so I do know this, and I would NOT be welcomed into my church as a slave in the BDSM lifestyle).
 
But with that said.... Wwe do come here to meet friends, meet lovers/significant others, and to learn from one another. Our misspellings or our grammer errors should not be the issue. It is what we know, what we can do to help others, and helping others in positive ways to the best of our abilities. Right?
 
So what if we spell a word wrong, or if Wwe use (Wwe) to show Dominant or submission. That is not the point of the forums. Work together and help each other to grow and learn. Don't nit pick.

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RE: tolerance among us - 6/11/2006 10:57:23 AM   
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sorry Aall.... am I in trouble now for posting under Masters nic <smiles>

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