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School In LA Forces Girls To Take Pregnancy Tests, Kick... - 8/8/2012 8:54:23 AM   
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One Louisiana public school's no-nonsense approach to preventing teen pregnancy is "in blatant violation of federal law and the U.S. Constitution," the American Civil Liberties Union says.

According to Delhi Charter School policy, students "suspected" of being pregnant are required to take a pregnancy test. If the test proves positive, or if a student declines to take the test, she'll no longer be permitted to take classes on campus and must either transfer to another school or begin a home school program. From the student handbook:

If an administrator or teacher suspects a student is pregnant, a parent conference will be held. The school reserves the right to require any female student to take a pregnancy test to confirm whether or not the suspected student is in fact pregnant. The school further reserves the right to refer the suspected student to a physician of its choice. If the test indicates that the student is pregnant, the student will not be permitted to attend classes on the campus of Delhi Charter School.


If a student is determined to be pregnant and wishes to continue to attend Delhi Charter School, the student will be required to pursue a course of home study that will be provided by the school… Any student who is suspected of being pregnant and who refuses to submit to a pregnancy test shall be treated as a pregnant student and will be offered home study opportunities. If home study opportunities are not acceptable, the student will be counseled to seek other educational opportunities.

The ACLU is demanding that Delhi immediately suspend the policy, noting that it violates Title IX, which prohibits sex discrimination in federally funded educational programs. According to Title IX, schools cannot be excluded from "any class or extracurricular activity, on the basis of such student's pregnancy, childbirth, false pregnancy, termination of pregnancy or recovery therefrom."

The school also notes in its handbook that it reserves the right to send girls suspected of being pregnant to a physician of the school's choice. Various other policies in the 216-page manual permit "reasonable corporal punishment of unruly students," defined as "paddling of the student's buttocks," and prohibition of public displays of affection because they "show disdain for good taste." According to the handbook, PDA include, but are not limited to "holding hands on school premises, hugging, kissing, leaning against each other and sitting in each others' laps."

In a letter to Delhi school officials Aug. 6, ACLU of Louisiana Executive Director Marjorie Esman points out that school policies also violate the Equal Protection Clause and Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment "by imposing an irrebuttable presumption that pregnant students are unable to continue to attend classes" and "raises serious concerns of vagueness in violation of the First Amendment."

Delhi's school policies are surfacing as the education gap between teen moms and those who didn't have a teen birth grows. According to a 2010 report by nonprofit research center Child Trends, 51 percent of teen mothers have a high school diploma, compared with 89 percent of women who were not teen mothers. For teens who give birth before the age of 18, their likelihood of graduating high school is even lower -- just 38 percent have a diploma.

According to a recent Centers for Disease Control and Prevention report, Louisiana holds the sixth highest teen pregnancy rate in the country, and "lack of education is a big factor," Louisiana State University student Shea Leger told The Daily Reveille.

The ACLU notes that about 70 percent of teenagers who give birth drop out of high school, in part due to actions by schools that force pregnant students out. Data from the National Center for Educational Statistics show that pregnancy is already a leading cause of dropping out of high school -- 30 percent of teenage girls cited pregnancy or parenthood as a reason for leaving before completion.

Overall, high school dropouts cost taxpayers between $320 billion and $350 billion a year in lost wages, taxable income, health, welfare and incarceration costs, among others. Dropouts are also a cost to themselves: of the 3.8 million students that started high school last fall, a quarter won't earn a diploma. Those who don't finish will earn $200,000 less than those who do over their lifetime.

Dropouts are also not eligible for 90 percent of the jobs in our economy, and a student drops out of high school every 26 seconds in the U.S., contributing to a rising unemployment rate.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/07/delhi-charter-school-in-l_n_1752756.html?ir=Education

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RE: School In LA Forces Girls To Take Pregnancy Tests, ... - 8/8/2012 8:56:47 AM   
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Petition: Delhi Charter School: Stop Discriminating Against Pregnant Students!

Greetings,

I recently learned about your school's policy of shaming and suspending students who are pregnant -- and imposing mandatory pregnancy tests on students you think "might" be pregnant.

This discrimination is illegal. It is also shocking behavior coming from individuals and an institution that are supposed to be committed to educating youth and improving communities.

That's why I am signing this petition, started by Natasha Vianna -- the Teen Parent Ambassador for Brigham Women's Hospital, who was also a teen mom -- calling on you to end your discriminatory policies of mandatory pregnancy tests, and suspending dissenting and pregnant students immediately.

Teen parents have a hard enough time already -- and as many as 70% of teen moms leave high school because of stigma and hardship, leaving them without the educations they need to grow into successful adults and parents.

Delhi Charter School needs to end this policy of discrimination against teen moms and female students immediately, and recommit itself to educating all the students who walk through its doors.

Sincerely,

[Your name]

Sign the petition: http://www.change.org/petitions/delhi-charter-school-stop-discriminating-against-pregnant-students

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RE: School In LA Forces Girls To Take Pregnancy Tests, ... - 8/8/2012 9:06:07 AM   
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I saw the title and did a quick search (Who'd have thunk it was Louisiana and not Los Angeles? LOL)

This is one of those much-touted (by the left) charter schools; one of the arguments offered against school vouchers! I LOVE it!

Hoisted on their own petard, the (A)merican (C)ommunist (L)iberties (U)nion must now take a position against a lefty "sacred cow" (a charter school).

I haven't done much research on charter schools because my youngest is 24 and they were just becoming really popular when he was worrying about which public school had a better football program (He's my third and I told all of them to work on their grades or athletics because I couldn't afford to put all three of them through good universities).

What I have gleaned about these schools is that they are fairly selective and there's a lot of competition to get into them. One would think that in days gone by, this would make students and parents of students grateful to be accepted and to be getting (what's considered to be) a "better" education than they could get in a public school.

Sadly, no. Instead of an attitude of gratitude, these people have an attitude of graNtitude. They feel like they're entitled to a charter school education. Well, they're not.

One of the reasons why charter schools have enjoyed so much success (at least, according to those that sing their praises) is because they tend to have a more structured, firm set of behavior disciplines for students. Any parent knows that being consistent with young people and having rules that are to be followed works very well in raising children. One would think that the same would follow, when it comes to education.

No, this school will be roasted in the liberal press, they'll cave to pressure from the communist ACLU and they'll change their rules and this (and maybe other) charter school(s) will sink down into the same crater that has become our public schools.

Kudos to the great destroyers!



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Michael


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RE: School In LA Forces Girls To Take Pregnancy Tests, ... - 8/8/2012 11:25:29 AM   
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I saw the title and did a quick search (Who'd have thunk it was Louisiana and not Los Angeles? LOL)

This is one of those much-touted (by the left) charter schools; one of the arguments offered against school vouchers! I LOVE it!


The left touts charter schools? Since when? Every teachers union and leftist school reform group I know of opposes charter schools.

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RE: School In LA Forces Girls To Take Pregnancy Tests, ... - 8/8/2012 11:36:42 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: DomKen


quote:

ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr

I saw the title and did a quick search (Who'd have thunk it was Louisiana and not Los Angeles? LOL)

This is one of those much-touted (by the left) charter schools; one of the arguments offered against school vouchers! I LOVE it!


The left touts charter schools? Since when? Every teachers union and leftist school reform group I know of opposes charter schools.


I also had a WTF? moment when I saw that statement that the left supports charter schools.

Yo, DS, you might want to go look that up again.  Charter schools are one of those things supported by the R side.

http://www.publicschoolreview.com/articles/3

From the above.
"For his proposed budget for 2006, President Bush asked for $219 million dollars in support in grants for 1,200 new and existing charter schools. He also asked for $50 million for a Choice Incentive Fund for an innovative voucher system that would allow parents to transfer their students to other public, private, or charter schools. Bush also asked for $37 million to help charter schools to help them obtain the needed credit to renovate, lease, or buy school facilities."

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RE: School In LA Forces Girls To Take Pregnancy Tests, ... - 8/8/2012 12:07:51 PM   
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This is one of those much-touted (by the left) charter schools; one of the arguments offered against school vouchers! I LOVE it!

Hoisted on their own petard, the (A)merican (C)ommunist (L)iberties (U)nion must now take a position against a lefty "sacred cow" (a charter school).


Um.....not even close.

Charter schools was a conservative initiative, and it's Republicans who champion them (as an alternative to public schools).

The ACLU exists to defend the Constitution. if that's "communist," the U.S. is even more fucked up than I thought.

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RE: School In LA Forces Girls To Take Pregnancy Tests, ... - 8/8/2012 12:48:05 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr

I saw the title and did a quick search (Who'd have thunk it was Louisiana and not Los Angeles? LOL)

This is one of those much-touted (by the left) charter schools; one of the arguments offered against school vouchers! I LOVE it!

Hoisted on their own petard, the (A)merican (C)ommunist (L)iberties (U)nion must now take a position against a lefty "sacred cow" (a charter school).

I haven't done much research on charter schools because my youngest is 24 and they were just becoming really popular when he was worrying about which public school had a better football program (He's my third and I told all of them to work on their grades or athletics because I couldn't afford to put all three of them through good universities).

What I have gleaned about these schools is that they are fairly selective and there's a lot of competition to get into them. One would think that in days gone by, this would make students and parents of students grateful to be accepted and to be getting (what's considered to be) a "better" education than they could get in a public school.

Sadly, no. Instead of an attitude of gratitude, these people have an attitude of graNtitude. They feel like they're entitled to a charter school education. Well, they're not.

One of the reasons why charter schools have enjoyed so much success (at least, according to those that sing their praises) is because they tend to have a more structured, firm set of behavior disciplines for students. Any parent knows that being consistent with young people and having rules that are to be followed works very well in raising children. One would think that the same would follow, when it comes to education.

No, this school will be roasted in the liberal press, they'll cave to pressure from the communist ACLU and they'll change their rules and this (and maybe other) charter school(s) will sink down into the same crater that has become our public schools.

Kudos to the great destroyers!



Peace and comfort,



Michael




Wanna make up your mind here?

Its pretty obvious you have no clue what you are talking about and should have done at least a casual amount of research before making your post.

You start off by flaming charter schools as a leftist idea.... not even close.

Then end up placing this one on a pedestal.

The ACLU is demanding that Delhi immediately suspend the policy, noting that it violates Title IX, which prohibits sex discrimination in federally funded educational programs. According to Title IX, schools cannot be excluded from "any class or extracurricular activity, on the basis of such student's pregnancy, childbirth, false pregnancy, termination of pregnancy or recovery therefrom."

They are violating the law. Its just that simple.

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RE: School In LA Forces Girls To Take Pregnancy Tests, ... - 8/8/2012 1:03:34 PM   
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The whole "hide the pregnant girls from the rest of the kids lest they get ideas," is stupid anyhow.

During my junior year in high school there was a sophomore girl who got pregnant. They did not kick her out (this was a Catholic high school, by the way). She was allowed to continue classes and when she had the baby she was allowed to either bring it with her in some classes or leave it in the care of the office workers (who volunteered) for other classes.

Truth be told, watching her change that kid's stinky diaper was probably the best birth control we ever had.

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RE: School In LA Forces Girls To Take Pregnancy Tests, ... - 8/8/2012 2:39:26 PM   
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wow michael, even I a furrigner know that is a bunch of bs, congratulations on making it a left vs right thing tho and ignoring the legality of the situation, or what the result will be for those affected by this illegality...and ALSO ignoring the FACTS about the state as a whole with regards to the pregnancy and education failures... Seems to me that you didnt get the part about "any parent knows...is in fact a huge dumb fallacy"

I do hope you come back to address this post....


quote:

ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr

I saw the title and did a quick search (Who'd have thunk it was Louisiana and not Los Angeles? LOL)

This is one of those much-touted (by the left) charter schools; one of the arguments offered against school vouchers! I LOVE it!

Hoisted on their own petard, the (A)merican (C)ommunist (L)iberties (U)nion must now take a position against a lefty "sacred cow" (a charter school).

I haven't done much research on charter schools because my youngest is 24 and they were just becoming really popular when he was worrying about which public school had a better football program (He's my third and I told all of them to work on their grades or athletics because I couldn't afford to put all three of them through good universities).

What I have gleaned about these schools is that they are fairly selective and there's a lot of competition to get into them. One would think that in days gone by, this would make students and parents of students grateful to be accepted and to be getting (what's considered to be) a "better" education than they could get in a public school.

Sadly, no. Instead of an attitude of gratitude, these people have an attitude of graNtitude. They feel like they're entitled to a charter school education. Well, they're not.

One of the reasons why charter schools have enjoyed so much success (at least, according to those that sing their praises) is because they tend to have a more structured, firm set of behavior disciplines for students. Any parent knows that being consistent with young people and having rules that are to be followed works very well in raising children. One would think that the same would follow, when it comes to education.

No, this school will be roasted in the liberal press, they'll cave to pressure from the communist ACLU and they'll change their rules and this (and maybe other) charter school(s) will sink down into the same crater that has become our public schools.

Kudos to the great destroyers!



Peace and comfort,



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RE: School In LA Forces Girls To Take Pregnancy Tests, ... - 8/8/2012 4:49:54 PM   
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The left touts charter schools? Since when? Every teachers union and leftist school reform group I know of opposes charter schools.



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I also had a WTF? moment when I saw that statement that the left supports charter schools.

Yo, DS, you might want to go look that up again.  Charter schools are one of those things supported by the R side.

http://www.publicschoolreview.com/articles/3

From the above.
"For his proposed budget for 2006, President Bush asked for $219 million dollars in support in grants for 1,200 new and existing charter schools. He also asked for $50 million for a Choice Incentive Fund for an innovative voucher system that would allow parents to transfer their students to other public, private, or charter schools. Bush also asked for $37 million to help charter schools to help them obtain the needed credit to renovate, lease, or buy school facilities."


C-Span

DNC Party Platform

[D]emocrats [F]or [E]ducation [R]eform

New York Post Praising Governor Cuomo (D-NY)

That's all the free time I have to do other peoples' research for them. Sorry, gents.

I have to say that for such staunch democrats to not know what is their party's platform is a little disconcerting.



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RE: School In LA Forces Girls To Take Pregnancy Tests, ... - 8/8/2012 5:56:30 PM   
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They are violating the law. Its just that simple.


Maybe they are.

We would have to know the school's policy on other short term disability medical conditions.

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RE: School In LA Forces Girls To Take Pregnancy Tests, ... - 8/8/2012 6:05:43 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr

This is one of those much-touted (by the left) charter schools; one of the arguments offered against school vouchers! I LOVE it!


The left touts charter schools? Since when? Every teachers union and leftist school reform group I know of opposes charter schools.

They do support them - in his mind.

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RE: School In LA Forces Girls To Take Pregnancy Tests, ... - 8/8/2012 6:42:34 PM   
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quote:

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They are violating the law. Its just that simple.


Maybe they are.

We would have to know the school's policy on other short term disability medical conditions.


Although the most well-known application of Title IX regards athletics, there are several protections the law specifically delineates. Section 106.40 protects pregnant and parenting students from discrimination based on pregnant status, marital status, or parenthood.[21] Their condition must be treated as any other medical condition. Students may not be excluded from any activity based on their condition of pregnancy, parenthood, or marital status. If they attend a separate facility, they must elect to do so voluntarily, and the facility must provide comparable programs.

No, we dont.

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