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Real0ne -> Solar system warming, and the man made rise in CO2. (8/5/2012 5:28:16 PM)

Those dastardly devils on plant earth are ruining the whole damn solar system and then they deny it!

~Trougher Inc


From National Geographic:

“Habibullo Abdussamatov, head of the St. Petersburg’s Pulkovo Astronomical Observatory in Russia, says the Mars data is evidence that the current global warming on Earth is being caused by changes in the sun.“

From MIT on Pluto

“the average surface temperature of the nitrogen ice on Pluto has increased slightly less than 2 degrees Celsius over the past 14 years.”

Since Pluto is moving further away from the Sun and continuing to warm despite that fact, it indicates that something doesn’t fit into “Solar Constant” dismissal theories.

From Space.com on Jupiter:

“The latest images could provide evidence that Jupiter is in the midst of a global change that can modify temperatures by as much as 10 degrees Fahrenheit on different parts of the globe.”

From MIT on Triton:

“At least since 1989, Triton has been undergoing a period of global warming. Percentage-wise, it’s a very large increase,” said Elliot, professor of Earth, Atmospheric and Planetary Sciences and director of the Wallace Astrophysical Observatory. The 5 percent increase on the absolute temperature scale from about minus-392 degrees Fahrenheit to about minus-389 degrees Fahrenheit would be like the Earth experiencing a jump of about 22 degrees Fahrenheit.”

So there is Global Warming on at least 4 other bodies in our Solar System that co-insides with the recent warming on Earth. Doesn’t this point strongly towards the Sun or some other Cosmic force as the cause?

On the origin of the runaway global warming theory of CO2 Feedback and Venus (PDF):

“Why is the albedo of Venus important? When the albedo is at 0.80, the Global Warming Theory falls apart. . .

The carbon dioxide levels on Earth have risen from approximately 0.028% to 0.036% in the last few decades. It is a major stretch to compare this with Venus at a 96.500% carbon dioxide level and promote an uncontrollable runaway condition. Earth in its early history, 385 million years ago, had an atmosphere with 10 times the present carbon dioxide levels. Those elevated levels did not produce runaway global warming then, so why should we theorize that it would today?”

Pre-conceived agendas and a scorched earth policy of accusing any critics of complicity with Big Oil or the Republican Party impedes the scientific process. Likening people who do not agree with doomsday Anthropogenic Global Warming theories to Holocaust Deniers does not get us closer to the truth. In Science, when did “Skeptic” become such a bad word?

Ever since the trroughers figgered out how to make money off of what idjits dont know!

http://seoblackhat.com/2007/03/04/global-warming-on-mars-pluto-triton-and-jupiter/



Tumblweed -> RE: Solar system warming, and the man made rise in CO2. (8/6/2012 3:09:37 PM)

The fact is that the people who are running things couldn't care less. They have the money to provide climate for themselves quite easily. Especially on Earth. Going to other places is not quite feasible right now, if it was they wouldn't care at all. The problem is they will have to take more of the wealth they steal from the people to make themselves comfortable. Thus we must pay more.

These carbon taxes, who gets that money ?

I think that about sums it up. I hope to be dead within twenty years so really, I don't care. Burn yourselves up.

Weed



Real0ne -> RE: Solar system warming, and the man made rise in CO2. (8/7/2012 10:21:00 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Tumblweed

The fact is that the people who are running things couldn't care less. They have the money to provide climate for themselves quite easily. Especially on Earth. Going to other places is not quite feasible right now, if it was they wouldn't care at all. The problem is they will have to take more of the wealth they steal from the people to make themselves comfortable. Thus we must pay more.

These carbon taxes, who gets that money ?

I think that about sums it up. I hope to be dead within twenty years so really, I don't care. Burn yourselves up.

Weed



BINGO!

Makes me laugh every time they talk about "Solving Global Warming".

I noticed reality is not very popular out here.

They would rather use their duhMOBcracy to propose and enact LAW to solve irreparable problems for the betterment of the world.


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DaNewAgeViking -> RE: Solar system warming, and the man made rise in CO2. (8/7/2012 3:35:44 PM)

And this is Obama's fault...how?
[sm=afraid.gif]



SternSkipper -> RE: Solar system warming, and the man made rise in CO2. (8/7/2012 8:45:13 PM)

quote:

In Science, when did “Skeptic” become such a bad word?


When the Tesla idiots started claiming they and right wing morons had some kind of monopoly to it.



SternSkipper -> RE: Solar system warming, and the man made rise in CO2. (8/7/2012 8:52:46 PM)

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And this is Obama's fault...how?


A couple of years ago, customs intercepted a fuckload of FOIL going to ... well I'll leave it rto you to guess who's bitter about it.
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SternSkipper -> RE: Solar system warming, and the man made rise in CO2. (8/7/2012 8:58:50 PM)

quote:


[image]http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/nine_one_one/stuff/borg-intro1.jpg[/image]


Wrong
In keeping with Startrek Lore The Borg weren't:
From Wisconsin
Wanna-be Scientists
Made of Blue Monkey Fur

So stop calling yourself a Borg ... it's unbecoming



atursvcMaam -> RE: Solar system warming, and the man made rise in CO2. (8/7/2012 9:01:13 PM)

I can't decide whether to respond
"It's not all about you, Mr. Obama"
or........
Because he is that full of hot air.



DaNewAgeViking -> RE: Solar system warming, and the man made rise in CO2. (8/9/2012 11:26:13 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: SternSkipper
quote:


Wrong
In keeping with Startrek Lore The Borg weren't:
From Wisconsin
Wanna-be Scientists
Made of Blue Monkey Fur
So stop calling yourself a Borg ... it's unbecoming

And it insults the Borg.
[sm=bury.gif]



Real0ne -> RE: Solar system warming, and the man made rise in CO2. (8/9/2012 6:41:11 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: SternSkipper

quote:


[image]http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/nine_one_one/stuff/borg-intro1.jpg[/image]


Wrong
In keeping with Startrek Lore The Borg weren't:
From Wisconsin
Wanna-be Scientists
Made of Blue Monkey Fur

So stop calling yourself a Borg ... it's unbecoming




english is your second language I see.

wanna talk about the TMT some more? LMAO




Real0ne -> RE: Solar system warming, and the man made rise in CO2. (8/9/2012 6:44:49 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DaNewAgeViking


quote:

ORIGINAL: SternSkipper
quote:


Wrong
In keeping with Startrek Lore The Borg weren't:
From Wisconsin
Wanna-be Scientists
Made of Blue Monkey Fur
So stop calling yourself a Borg ... it's unbecoming

And it insults the Borg.
[sm=bury.gif]




well this whole global warming shit is a play on peoples ignorance, and just another gubafia pploy to extract money from every one and pass more bullshit legislation to hold up the fraudulent house of cards.

Even Jesus gets Industrial disease!



SternSkipper -> RE: Solar system warming, and the man made rise in CO2. (8/9/2012 7:33:25 PM)

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english is your second language I see.

"see"? Really? Using what for eyes?
Hint - Just cause it escapes your grasp, it's not bad English.
Still can't find 'gubfia' in the dictionary to prove everybody wrong, can ya?[8|]

quote:

wanna talk about the TMT some more? LMAO


PLEASE... NO! Ron Anax and I are still feeling embarrassed for you over those episodic posts where you run a comb through your blue fur 100 times and declare yourself capable of lighting a city.
[8D]



SternSkipper -> RE: Solar system warming, and the man made rise in CO2. (8/9/2012 7:35:22 PM)

quote:

quote:

ORIGINAL: SternSkipper

quote:


Wrong
In keeping with Startrek Lore The Borg weren't:
From Wisconsin
Wanna-be Scientists
Made of Blue Monkey Fur
So stop calling yourself a Borg ... it's unbecoming


And it insults the Borg.

Sometimes he takes dress-up a little too seriously
[image]http://www.toymania.com/custom/Galleries/Quinn/Quinn1/kermitborg2.JPG[/image]



Real0ne -> RE: Solar system warming, and the man made rise in CO2. (8/9/2012 8:14:50 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: SternSkipper

quote:


english is your second language I see.

"see"? Really? Using what for eyes?
Hint - Just cause it escapes your grasp, it's not bad English.
Still can't find 'gubfia' in the dictionary to prove everybody wrong, can ya?[8|]

quote:

wanna talk about the TMT some more? LMAO


PLEASE... NO! Ron Anax and I are still feeling embarrassed for you over those episodic posts where you run a comb through your blue fur 100 times and declare yourself capable of lighting a city.
[8D]



capitalizing on your fuckups again LOL [8|]

hell man you really left the cmers down when after bragging about your UMass degree you didnt even make it past ZAP 101 in the debate....

See the borg is portrayed as the "collective", the destroyer of culture individualism and uniqueness, that absorbs everything in its path like a black hole into its clutches. Sort of like the democracy thats being crammed down everyones throats. One of the number one enemies. From what I have seen Scifi is more knowledgeable and educational than certain posters out here.

Know what I mean....




SternSkipper -> RE: Solar system warming, and the man made rise in CO2. (8/9/2012 8:33:01 PM)

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hell man you really left the cmers down when after bragging about your UMass degree you didnt even make it past ZAP 101 in the debate....


Oh no... Tesla was well covered... as Parlor tricks in terms of any practical application... I'm sorry I don't have the VAST WEALTH of experience and (hahahahah... ) 'understanding' you've accumulated at YouTube University.

I see though it's upsetting you and I was joking and merely interested in a few laughs... So not as to cause any real issues. I'll leave it at that and apologize if it appeared I was ACTUALLY trying to hurt your feelings.



Real0ne -> RE: Solar system warming, and the man made rise in CO2. (8/9/2012 8:46:12 PM)

Hurt my feelings? on the tube? you have to be fucking kidding! right? LOL

Tesla has over 800 patents all of which work in america alone. Several hundred were sold to private parties. Like westinghouse ge etc.

How many patents do you have?

The real question here is why after all that massive education can you not tell the difference between a parlor trick and reality?

With tesla devices you can use an antenna the diameter of a beer barrel and 3 inches high to listen to radio stations in china from anywhere in america.

Oh and thats using it as a crystal radio with NO AMPLIFIED sound. -and a well designed receiver can also be used equally well as a transmitter.

Of course the gubafia had no reason to care about that, hell theyz good guys and love it when we talk world wide amongst ourselves with a lousy few hundred watts.

3 cheers for the gubafia!

Its the same gubafia that wants to carbon tax you for what the sun is doing, but then you obviously buy that bullshit too.


Glad to hear you enjoy MIT's very own Walter Lewin on YouTube University







Tumblweed -> RE: Solar system warming, and the man made rise in CO2. (8/9/2012 9:13:19 PM)





quote:

Makes me laugh every time they talk about "Solving Global Warming".


I don't laugh. You should actually cry. It is most lucrative to get paid to solve problems and not solve them. The beauty of global warming is that they cannot solve it.

The Earth has a cycle around the sun having to do with it's orbit. This has resulted in a warming trend which has nothing to do with CO2. The trend is over and now the Earth is entering a cooling cycle. Now I wonder if when tempertures get lower, if they are going to drop it and keep charging for carbon emissions, or claim that they solved the problem. Now I do not deny that man's activity here warms the place up, but it is the significance of it at issue.

Someone out there also asserts that ALL the planets in the solar system are warming. I attribute that to error because there is one life path for a sun (star). It gets laden with non fuel like helium and all that, and gets cooler and bigger. Now they could likely tell if this was happening more than expected. Yes it is expected, in millions of years mercury will melt, whatever. However, they say pluto is getting warmer, uranus etc,. (___).

This is almost impossible because a cooler bigger star will have a reduced output to a planet that far. It COULD explain mercury, venus, earth, mars getting warmer but that is not true of planets outside the asteroid belt. You have to understand just how far away they actually are. They are so damn cold that our atmosphere would be liquid there, or actually soilid. I think on jupiter and saturn the elements in our atmospere are mostly liquid, on the farher planets the are frozen. Pretty sure.

But the fact is that somehow some way WE have to pay THEM. You think when they charge a company taxes the CEO gets out the checkbook ? Fuck no, that money comes from the people who buy their products. When they fined Microsoft, they really fined it's customers. When GM or Republic steel has to pay for emitting carbon, where do you think the money comes from ?

I'll give you a hint. ALL the money that a comany pays out comes from their customers. Where else ?

Weed



Tumblweed -> RE: Solar system warming, and the man made rise in CO2. (8/9/2012 9:18:25 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Real0ne


Tesla has over 800 patents all of which work in america alone. Several hundred were sold to private parties. Like westinghouse ge etc.



That is misphrased. He has alot of patents but they are not all being used.

Weed



SternSkipper -> RE: Solar system warming, and the man made rise in CO2. (8/9/2012 11:29:20 PM)

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Glad to hear you enjoy MIT's very own Walter Lewin on YouTube University


If you knew THING ONE about Walter Lewin, you would know that he has never reproduced that particular experiment on any useful scale, his assertions in the video you got lost in apparently are in dispute amongst his own colleagues.
With that said, Walter is the father of something far more APPLICABLE (<- See that word?) than the information you mis-gleaned from the video.

I'll gave a quiz for you that I DOUBT you get out of the weeds consulting YouTube... but first I am going to cover a couple of points as to why you are just blowing shit...

First I could give a flying fuck if Tesla had LONG A FUCKING GO , but alas now, are NOT enforced US Patents because they have EXPIRED...

800-Schmate hundred... it's ALL public domain info ...
My friend Aaron was out on the boat a few weeks ago and he told me that the Sham-WOW guy has about a hundred patents in an unrelated conversation pertaining to Kooks. My question to him was "Any of em for anything useful?". He smiled took another hit off his beer and said "Depends on how big a spiller you are". And we both laughed. The point being that having a patent is absolutely NO indication that anything you've filed at the patent office WORKS.
So you're making wild claims and making rather pathetic attempts to insult me in lieu of presenting evidence. How many patents do I have FUCKING NONE... And are you smart enough at least to understand WHY?
Apparently not. Mister Wizard apparently confused you into thinking that everybody who gets a Bachelor Of Science magically becomes an inventor.
Also ... spare me the assertions that I am in bed somehow with your 'gubfia' as you do virtually anyone who disagrees with you. SOMETIMES... when people disagree with you, they don't have a 'gubfia' chip in their head, nor are they brainwashed. SOMETIMES... they either disagree. And SOMETIMES... It's cause you are wrong.
But all is not lost. I will give you a shot at redemption. Since this all goes back to your nonsense posts about the possibility that you could have REAL PASSENGER CARS driving all over the place on broadcast current, all you need do is go ferch the YouTube video of a man, in a car driving down the street with NO ON-BOARD BATTERIES. Simple enough, right? Only this time... NO TOY BOATS, NO UNCLE FESTER LIGHT BULB TRICKS, It HAS TO BE A VEHICLE Or you know what? YOU'RE WRONG

Okay... Bonus round... What is it that students at MIT most talk about in regard to Walter Lewin? I will be shocked if you get this one off YouTube (I haven't checked, but I kinda doubt it's there.
Good Luck... Come back empty handed and I'll feel obligated to ignore you.



Real0ne -> RE: Solar system warming, and the man made rise in CO2. (8/10/2012 7:15:37 AM)

See skip, thats why when people come on here bragging about their degrees I just laugh and shrug it off until they demonstrate they at least know "SOMETHING" about the topic. If you had even one clue about what you are talking about you would know it was not broadcast. In fact you have demonstrated you know little to nothing if anything at all about transmission. (that which you claim to have written some paper for UMass, likewise in your vivid imagination) Neither did I say you were the gubafia. I said you bought into their bullshit. and yes unlike the affirmative character of law as it is today, presumption without material substantive evidence rules while substantive evidence is not only ignored but scoffed. You have a fine pair of shoes there son, not my problem. lewin is best known for making physics fun, and guess what.... he is on YOUTUBE UNVERSITY. By all means feel free to join the dead soldiers club... LMAO



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