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Need recipe ideas - 7/31/2012 3:53:19 PM

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Due to my illness I have to restrict my phosphoruis intake which means less than one serving per day of high phosphorus foods. High phosphorus foods include tomatoes, any and all dairy, bananas, oranges, grapefruit, beans and peas, whole grain, nuts, liver and chocolate.

So that about covers all my favorite foods. I've been sticking to the diet but I'm simply sick to death of the recipes I know that fall inside these limits.

What I'm hoping for is some recipes/ideas for tasty food that don't break my diet.

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RE: Need recipe ideas - 7/31/2012 4:02:00 PM

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This Mayo Clinic chart is less restrictive - do you need to be super strict?

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/food-and-nutrition/HQ01212

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RE: Need recipe ideas - 7/31/2012 4:07:58 PM

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This Mayo Clinic chart is less restrictive - do you need to be super strict?

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/food-and-nutrition/HQ01212

I'm going off the list my dietician gave me. I had assumed she kept up to date and gave me good info. Looking at the kidney foundation site Their list also says cream cheese and cottage cheese are ok. So I'll go with the Mayo table for now.

If the fruits are ok that will really annoy me since I haven't had a banana or an orange or OJ in better than a year.

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RE: Need recipe ideas - 7/31/2012 4:08:42 PM

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Do you like Thai food? That was my first thought when I saw white rice was ok. Hopefully, you don't have sodium restriction as well so can eat fish or soy sauce.

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RE: Need recipe ideas - 7/31/2012 4:15:02 PM

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Assuming this nephrology site is accurate, your dietician needs a spanking - it says All Fruits are Low in Phosphorus

Phosphorus

Foods High in Phosphorus (greater than 160 mg per serving):

MEATS, ETC: Fish & Seafood (3 oz.) - Bass, Catfish, Clams, Cod, Crab (real and imitation), Flounder, Halibut, Orange Roughy, Pollack, Salmon (canned with bones), Sardines (canned with bones), Scallops (breaded and fried - 4 to 6 pieces), Shrimp (Breaded and Fried - 10 to 11 pieces), Swordfish, Trout, Tuna (canned in oil); Lamb (3 oz); Liver (3 oz); Pork (3 oz); Turkey (3 oz); Veal (3 oz)

BREAD & STARCHES: Bulgar (1/2 cup); Cornbread (prepared from dry mix) - 1 piece; Golden Grahams (3/4 cup); Frosted Mini-Wheats (1 cup); Kellogg's Raisin Bran (1 cup); Lentils, cooked (1/2 cup); Post Shredded Wheat (1 cup); Trail Mix (1/2 cup).

DAIRY PRODUCTS: Buttermilk (8 oz); Chocolate Milk (8 oz); Chocolate Pudding - instant (4 oz); Egg Nog (8 oz); Milk (8 oz.); Milkshakes (8 oz); Ricotta Cheese (1/2 cup); Swiss Cheese (1 oz); Yogurt (8 oz)

Foods Moderately High in Phosphorus (110-160 mg per serving):

MEATS, ETC: Bacon (2 slices); Beef (3 oz); Chicken (3 oz); Chicken Pot Pie (one small); Fish and Seafood (3 oz) - Lobster, Oysters, Perch, Steamed Shrimp, Tuna (canned in water)

BREAD & STARCHES: Biscuits (one 4-inch biscuit from recipe); Waffle (one from mix); Pancake (one from mix); Cheerios (1-1/4 cup); Wheaties (1 cup); Wheat CHEX (1 cup); Oatmeal (1 cup)

DAIRY PRODUCTS: Cheddar Cheese (1 oz.); Cottage Cheese (1/2 cup); Custard (1/2 cup); Fat-free Cream Cheese (2 Tbsp.); Mozzarella Cheese (1 oz.); Provolone Cheese (1 oz.); Pudding - instant, made with milk (1/2 cup)

DRIED BEANS & PEAS: Baked Beans (1/2 cup); Black-eyed Peas (1/2 cup); Black Beans (1/2 cup); Chili Beans (1/2 cup); Garbanzo Beans (1/2 cup); Kidney Beans (1/2 cup); Lima Beans (1/2 cup); Pinto Beans (1/2 cup); Refried Beans (1/2 cup)

NUTS & SEEDS: Almonds (22 nuts); Cashews (18 medium nuts); Pecans (20 halves); Pumpkin Seeds (50 seeds); Sunflower Seeds (50 seeds)

MISCELLANEOUS: Angel Food Cake (one piece); Beer (12 oz); Doughnut (one medium); Peanut Butter (2 Tbsp); Soy Milk (8 oz)

Foods Low in Phosphorus (less than 110 mg per serving):

MEATS, ETC: Egg (one): Hot Dog (one); Sausage, fresh; Frozen Fish Sticks (two sticks)

BREAD & STARCHES: Bagel (one); all Bread (one slice); Biscuit (one made from refrigerated dough); Croissant (one); all Crackers (four); Cereals, including: Cocoa Puffs (1 cup); Corn, Rice CHEX (1 cup); Corn Flakes (1 cup); Corn Pops (1 cup); Cream of Wheat (3/4 cup); Kix (1-1/3 cup); Rice Krispies (1-1/4 cup); Special K (1 cup); English Muffin (one); Pasta (1/2 cup); Noodles (1/2 cup); Rice (1/2 cup); Popcorn (1 cup); Tortilla (one)

VEGETABLES All Vegetables are Low in Phosphorus

FRUITS: All Fruits are Low in Phosphorus

DAIRY PRODUCTS: Brie (1 oz); Cream Cheese (2 Tbsp); Feta Cheese (1 oz); Ice Cream (1/2 cup); Half & Half (1/2 cup); Grated Parmesan Cheese (2 Tbsp); Sour Cream (2 Tbsp); Whipping Cream (1/2 cup)

NUTS & SEEDS: Macadamia Nuts (12 nuts); Peanuts (28 nuts); Walnuts (14 halves)

MISCELLANEOUS: Cake (one piece); Coffee (6 oz); Cookie (one); Fruit Works; Hard Candy; Jelly Beans; Nestea COOL Iced Tea (8 oz); Non-dairy Creamer (1/2 cup); Pie (one piece); Ready-to-Eat Pudding (1/2 cup); Unenriched Rice Milk (8 oz); Snickers bar (one 2 oz bar); Soda Pop (12 oz); Tea (6 oz)

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RE: Need recipe ideas - 7/31/2012 4:49:56 PM

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Do you like Thai food? That was my first thought when I saw white rice was ok. Hopefully, you don't have sodium restriction as well so can eat fish or soy sauce.

I love thai food but since soy sauce is based on soy beans I'm supposed to avoid it, at least according to my soon to be chastised dietician. Oranges and bananas would have made the last year or so a lot more pleasant.

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RE: Need recipe ideas - 7/31/2012 6:21:37 PM

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I forgot to post the link: http://www.nephinc.com/food-lists.asp

Soy sauce is listed, but only in the sodium category, leading me to believe that it would be in the phosphorous category if it belong there.

Anyway, fish sauce is traditional for Thai food and it too is not in the phosphorus lists. (Some people don't like fish sauce, which is why I mentioned soy as well.)

Another reason I'm concerned about the accuracy of her information because she told you "all dairy" when there are eight dairy products on the low phosphorous list.

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RE: Need recipe ideas - 7/31/2012 6:31:16 PM

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In helping a buddy "go" low phosphorus, he hands me a list of a bazillion fruits, from low phosphorus to high. So, I'm looking, trying to figure out how to shop for him without dragging list around. I hit it! High phosphorus are tropical; low phosphorus are to the north.... APPLES! And all kinds of berries, pears.... POTATOES are a no-no, but there's these hash-browns in a box that have had phosphorus soaked out.... turns put potatoes peeled and soaked in ordinary water make the phosphorus level go down. THUS: Pork chops, fresh pear and apple compote, and hash-browns.

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RE: Need recipe ideas - 7/31/2012 7:09:14 PM

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OMG Lance that sounds delicious!

Will you come cook for me?

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RE: Need recipe ideas - 7/31/2012 10:35:51 PM

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Kalikshima, I don't think that site is correct.

It lists foods low in sulfur as "Egg(one)"

The "rotten egg smell" is caused by sulfur dioxide. SO2. That leads me to believe that list has some issues.

ETA: How did I get sulfur from phosphorous.

OP: You have won 3 internetz because you are the first person to have every stumped me on a foodie question.

Tell me what you CAN eat and maybe I can come up with something new.

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RE: Need recipe ideas - 8/2/2012 7:40:46 PM

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OP: You have won 3 internetz because you are the first person to have every stumped me on a foodie question.

Tell me what you CAN eat and maybe I can come up with something new.

AHEM! Beat you to it!

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RE: Need recipe ideas - 8/2/2012 7:52:40 PM

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Treat the good stuff (low-phosphorous) like a "Mystery Basket" on the cooking contests.

CRAP!!!! That suggested meal is low in POTASSIUM, phosphorus, not so much.

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