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RE: Tax for gun owners - 7/31/2012 4:55:12 PM   
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I haven't seen anything sensible yet.


Of course you haven't. As soon as you see the word "gun," you oppose it.

Reality--we have some gun regulation. It's legal. Sorry about that. It has withstood Constitutional scrutiny, and for good reason. It's a matter of proper balance for the protection of everyone's rights. Just as we do with automobiles. We regulate them, and no one screams "Next they'll take all the cars!!!!"

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RE: Tax for gun owners - 7/31/2012 5:05:15 PM   
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We regulate [cars], and no one screams "Next they'll take all the cars!!!!"


Liberals like cars.


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RE: Tax for gun owners - 7/31/2012 5:22:46 PM   
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Actually, liberals like to regulate the fuck out of cars--safety, pollution, on and on and on....

Now NASCAR -- there's a liberal event!

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RE: Tax for gun owners - 7/31/2012 5:36:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

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I haven't seen anything sensible yet.


Of course you haven't. As soon as you see the word "gun," you oppose it.

Reality--we have some gun regulation. It's legal. Sorry about that. It has withstood Constitutional scrutiny, and for good reason. It's a matter of proper balance for the protection of everyone's rights. Just as we do with automobiles. We regulate them, and no one screams "Next they'll take all the cars!!!!"


there is no amendment guaranteeing you the right ot have a car. How fcking tarded.

No it has not withstood constitution scrutiny, it withstood judicial construction.

If you think that is not correct put up the case you rely upon and I will blow it completely full of holes.


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RE: Tax for gun owners - 7/31/2012 5:44:40 PM   
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I have no real issue with gun ownership, I have an issue with assault style weapons and the fact that not only can responsible people own them, but so can idiots!

http://www.indystar.com/article/20120730/NEWS/120730020/South-Bend-3-year-old-accidently-shoots-himself

They keep their guns in a gun safe, perhaps they should consider LOCKING IT!


Here's the thing: what constitutes an "assault weapon" is cosmetic. It's defined by the barrel shroud, the grip, the stock etc. It's not defined by it's ability.

On Sunday, I shot next to a guy that had an AR15 chambered as .22 long rifle. I was shooting a Marlin .22 long rifle.

They're both semi-automatic.
They both hold 10 rounds of ammunition in the magazine which is the maximum allowed by California law.
They both fire at the same rate.
The AR has a pin that has to be inserted to remove the magazine. My Marlin pops the magazine out with a flick of the thumb.

Matter of fact, my .22LR has a kick ass scope, so I can use that thing like a surgeon (I was making smiley faces on my targets), while the AR had iron sights which is no where near as accurate.

But, if I post pictures of that AR15 chambered as .22LR against a Barrett 50, people will say that the .22LR should be banned.

I find it funny that so many people want "assault" weapons banned, but don't know what is deemed an assault rifle. It's about "it looks scary!" and has nothing to with abilities.

This is the same thing as all the people that think Pit Bulls should be banned and any living Pit Bull should be killed.











nice!



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RE: Tax for gun owners - 7/31/2012 5:46:09 PM   
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That's really what it's all about: sustainable rate of fire. Caliber, range and the rest, those just aren't the make-or-break factors.



A Gatling Gun is classified as a semi-automatic firearm. Legal to own. 2nd source on legality.
Just thought you'd like to know that



yep!

and here is gun control at its finest

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HzCnymSugQ

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RE: Tax for gun owners - 7/31/2012 5:58:37 PM   
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In the 90s NY state confiscated bolt action riflesclaiming the to be assault rifles because they had bipods. When the psuedo assault weapons ban was put in one of the charteristics to qualify was a bayonet lug. They just lump in anything that sounds good and looks dangerous. And every gun law is considered a start.


I wasn't supporting the existing law, I was pointing out how it could be defined: amount of lead down the range per unit time.

IWYW,
— Aswad.





so what you are saying is you would have 1 - 800 gr 50 cal per second or lets see about 15 - 22 rounds per second.

or do you mean just single action 6 shooters should be the rule?

Heres bob with his single action 6 shooter;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=xRXXxQ1OuDc

Now that would be 20 dead people, add a speed loader and.... he would make colorado look like a boy scout camp.

Dont think so?

well:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7HN7THecwg

see for yourself.

This is america and we like our guns. If the brits dont like it they can move out.


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RE: Tax for gun owners - 7/31/2012 7:38:38 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Real0ne


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In the 90s NY state confiscated bolt action riflesclaiming the to be assault rifles because they had bipods. When the psuedo assault weapons ban was put in one of the charteristics to qualify was a bayonet lug. They just lump in anything that sounds good and looks dangerous. And every gun law is considered a start.


I wasn't supporting the existing law, I was pointing out how it could be defined: amount of lead down the range per unit time.

IWYW,
— Aswad.





so what you are saying is you would have 1 - 800 gr 50 cal per second or lets see about 15 - 22 rounds per second.

or do you mean just single action 6 shooters should be the rule?

Heres bob with his single action 6 shooter;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=xRXXxQ1OuDc

Now that would be 20 dead people, add a speed loader and.... he would make colorado look like a boy scout camp.

Dont think so?

well:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7HN7THecwg

see for yourself.

This is america and we like our guns. If the brits dont like it they can move out.


You can't use speed loaders with single action.

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RE: Tax for gun owners - 7/31/2012 8:29:30 PM   
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oops,,, thinking of wrong pistol. My .45lc is single action. one shell reload at a time.

< Message edited by Yachtie -- 7/31/2012 8:32:08 PM >


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RE: Tax for gun owners - 7/31/2012 9:35:15 PM   
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oops,,, thinking of wrong pistol. My .45lc is single action. one shell reload at a time.

S&W model 25 .45lc double action instead of the single action can use speed loaders. Continue with your point.

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