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DesideriScuri -> RE: Government is Killing Americans!!!** (7/23/2012 11:50:47 AM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail
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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
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ORIGINAL: mnottertail
The processing plants are in place and are filthy fucking sewers. They preceeded the USDA and they were powerful trusts, and built-in lobbies before the USDA got in there.  The USDA keeps it down to a dull roar.    The lobby for the Morrells, Armours, and so on insure that they are kept hamstrung and only enforce the barest minimum standards.
The helluva job comment is on the lobby and payoffs to politicos.

So, what you're saying is that the USDA is impotent. What's the point of having them around, then?
I do not doubt that politicians are paid off. It's interesting that you'll place all the blame on the payer, without putting any blame on the payee. Both have wronged the US Citizen. Both need to be held accountable.

I told you.  To keep it down to a dull roar. Its interesting that you spew horseshit left and right like you are more than a cretin, but not so.


So, you are saying that the only reason we have the USDA, is to "keep it down to a dull roar?!?!?" Is that the job of the USDA, or is it to keep us safe?

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What  the fuck do you mean it's interesting that I will place all the blame on the payer?  Are you able to find your own ass with two hands and a flashlight?
If you are unknowledgeable, as well as incomprehending then you should let big people talk, and keep your asswipe to yourself.
Do not assign any positions to me in order to impugn me, because A) I do not hold them, and B) you havent the intelligence to pour piss out of a boot.  


You really are quite humorous. You spit out all these slurs and barbs, yet, say pretty much nothing. Your rebuttals of my assertions are nothing more than personal attacks, not even thinly veiled.

Understand we don't agree on most stuff. This isn't about intellect or anything like that. I understand you feel as strongly in your beliefs as I do in mine. I'm okay with that. Have I made personal attacks on you, though? Have I attempted to crumble your assertions by calling you names, or demeaning you? No. Know why? It's because I don't know you, and it doesn't matter. You could be the biggest ass clown, or the greatest thing since sliced cheese, and I'll still disagree with your assertions regardless. I have absolutely no respect for anyone who can't show respect to those who disagree. What happens when you're actually wrong? Is this the way you are in real life when someone doesn't agree with you?




mnottertail -> RE: Government is Killing Americans!!!** (7/23/2012 1:58:05 PM)

well, you havent any assertions that have any coincedence with reality,simply impudent, ignorant,  inflammatory asswipe.  It would be a more workable solution and better for the country to line up corporate executives, their lobbyists and their servile corporate capitulists teabaggers and neo-cons in the house and shoot them.  






DesideriScuri -> RE: Government is Killing Americans!!!** (7/23/2012 7:57:16 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail
well, you havent any assertions that have any coincedence with reality,simply impudent, ignorant,  inflammatory asswipe.  It would be a more workable solution and better for the country to line up corporate executives, their lobbyists and their servile corporate capitulists teabaggers and neo-cons in the house and shoot them.  


Glad we could stick to the calls for non-violent responses.




thompsonx -> RE: Government is Killing Americans!!!** (7/24/2012 11:36:26 AM)

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and shoot them.


Only once?




thompsonx -> RE: Government is Killing Americans!!!** (7/24/2012 11:38:35 AM)

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Glad we could stick to the calls for non-violent responses.


Why is violence off the table?




mnottertail -> RE: Government is Killing Americans!!!** (7/24/2012 11:54:06 AM)

since the assertions are without foundation and designed to inflame and impugn, coming out in diapers and crying foul when shown up for a fraud just aint gonna be less than a personal attack:

http://www.pbs.org/now/shows/250/meat-packing.html

Republicans took the teeth out of the USDA, as servile slaves  (and that showed the latest round only) to corporate greed and pocket lining.  Of course anyone could easily google this, presenting actual facts,  rather than make up whatever armchair theory best serves to create heat rather than light, and then continuing on to twist words despicably into postions that one does not hold, for the sole purpose of impugnations.




ClassIsInSession -> RE: Government is Killing Americans!!!** (7/24/2012 11:54:52 AM)

Actually, that has enough credence that I've witnessed someone in a court room use some of the premises to sue the government for illegal detainment. If it had no truth in it, the judge would have over ruled it, and possibly held him in contempt. Because there is, he was able to unseat the judge.

I'm totally with you on the fact that there are a huge number of conspiracy theories circulating around, but what that whole post talked about has some basis in the truth, sadly a truth that is largely buried in legal libraries, but truth none the less. Poking around in studies of common law, UCC and Napoleanic law and how they are used and not used in various courts around the country will lead you in the right direction if you want to check the facts for yourself.





ClassIsInSession -> RE: Government is Killing Americans!!!** (7/24/2012 11:58:06 AM)

Now there we have it, threats of violence from a liberal. I just knew we could catch it on record. For all the claims of intelligence, civility, tolerance and everything else liberals claim they have the monopoly on, the bitterness in their speaking reveals the true nature of the beast.

You might want to tread a little lightly with the talk of killing their farmer, your beloved Obama passed the NDAA and unfortunately for you, it protects the interests of those neocons and teabaggers just as much as the rest of the government. It would be a shame if they took your words as a domestic terrorist threat and sent the military to detain you indefinitely without a trial...




mnottertail -> RE: Government is Killing Americans!!!** (7/24/2012 12:10:11 PM)

You are talking of killing the farmer.  You are the one professing violence.  And saying nothing of the USDA and completely off topic in every post (you should know, they will clip you for that as well).







ClassIsInSession -> RE: Government is Killing Americans!!!** (7/24/2012 12:20:43 PM)

I've never threatened to kill the farmer...whatever that means. Perhaps your extreme anger has caused you to have delusions.

If they'd like to clip me, by all means, clip away. My life doesn't revolve around posting on CM.

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http://www.wellsphere.com/general-medicine-article/vitamin-c-may-be-life-saving-treatment-for-sepsis/1282314

I'm no fan of big Pharma.




thompsonx -> RE: Government is Killing Americans!!!** (7/24/2012 12:30:06 PM)

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Now there we have it, threats of violence from a liberal. I just knew we could catch it on record.


Had you ever read a history book you would be well aware that liberals like washington,adams,jefferson et al were not the least bit shy about using not only threats of violence but actual armed violence....they even started a revolution and started a new country.
While you were busy in the shit house a bunch of stuff happened.




Lucylastic -> RE: Government is Killing Americans!!!** (7/24/2012 12:34:13 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ClassIsInSession

Now there we have it, threats of violence from a liberal. I just knew we could catch it on record. For all the claims of intelligence, civility, tolerance and everything else liberals claim they have the monopoly on, the bitterness in their speaking reveals the true nature of the beast.

You might want to tread a little lightly with the talk of killing their farmer, your beloved Obama passed the NDAA and unfortunately for you, it protects the interests of those neocons and teabaggers just as much as the rest of the government. It would be a shame if they took your words as a domestic terrorist threat and sent the military to detain you indefinitely without a trial...

I have people from the other side condoning taking the president out...please dont go there




ClassIsInSession -> RE: Government is Killing Americans!!!** (7/24/2012 12:37:06 PM)

I just have to point out that the pot is calling the kettle black. I know it isn't popular or "in vogue" with liberals to do that.

I disagree with anyone making threats of violence over differing opinion, to anyone, including politicians. That's why we have the rule of law instead of lynch mobs.




Lucylastic -> RE: Government is Killing Americans!!!** (7/24/2012 12:46:46 PM)

Actually it is.... which is what Im calling back... just in a not so in your face way...
take it as you will.




DesideriScuri -> RE: Government is Killing Americans!!!** (7/24/2012 2:48:30 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
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ORIGINAL: ClassIsInSession
Now there we have it, threats of violence from a liberal. I just knew we could catch it on record. For all the claims of intelligence, civility, tolerance and everything else liberals claim they have the monopoly on, the bitterness in their speaking reveals the true nature of the beast.
You might want to tread a little lightly with the talk of killing their farmer, your beloved Obama passed the NDAA and unfortunately for you, it protects the interests of those neocons and teabaggers just as much as the rest of the government. It would be a shame if they took your words as a domestic terrorist threat and sent the military to detain you indefinitely without a trial...

I have people from the other side condoning taking the president out...please dont go there


Don't go where?!? Don't go warning that those words could be twisted out of context and acted upon? You are going to call ClassIsInSession out for that, but you apparently turn a blind eye when mnottertail says this:

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    It would be a more workable solution and better for the country to line up corporate executives, their lobbyists and their servile corporate capitulists teabaggers and neo-cons in the house and shoot them.


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ORIGINAL thompsonx
Why is violence off the table?
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Had you ever read a history book you would be well aware that liberals like washington,adams,jefferson et al were not the least bit shy about using not only threats of violence but actual armed violence....they even started a revolution and started a new country.
While you were busy in the shit house a bunch of stuff happened.


Dude, do you not recall all the hullabaloo over the violent rhetoric after Giffords was shot? The "Palin Cross Hairs Map" ring a bell? The Left went ballistic over the use of violent rhetoric, and called for a toning down of the attacks. What does it matter if Washington, Adams, Jefferson, et. al. used violent rhetoric? If you really want to go all the way back to their lifestyles, I suppose we could try, but I don't think many people would be able to cut the mustard, so to speak. Congress wasn't "in session" for the majority of the year. They had to work back home, if you recall. They believed in the right to own guns, and, presumably, how to use them properly (which is an integral piece for gun ownership, IMO).

THAT is why violent talk is off the table. It's interesting that you claim a bunch of stuff happened while ClassIsInSession was in the shit house. It seems you've missed a significant part of the political debate over the last year or so.




Lucylastic -> RE: Government is Killing Americans!!!** (7/24/2012 2:56:02 PM)

I wasnt calling HIM OUT...I was asking for it NOT to go any further....I even said PLEASE
I was responding to his comment about a liberals calling for violence... when both have blamed it on the "other side" and both have done it... DOOD




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