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Elizabeth Warren Vindicated - 5/11/2012 9:00:11 AM   
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http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gldmbjfeVfvxsMwAsXDloDSb1Azg?docId=2b86a2849d5f4a93af40dd3d4c33bb6b
BOSTON (AP) — Records show that the leading Democratic candidate for U.S. Senate in Massachusetts identified her race as "white" on an employment record at the University of Texas and declined to apply for admission to Rutgers Law School under a program for minority students.
The records on Elizabeth Warren were obtained by The Associated Press on Thursday. Warren's heritage has been under scrutiny after it surfaced that she had listed herself as having Native American heritage in law school directories.

Warren's campaign said the records reinforce her earlier statements that she never relied on a claim of minority status to get teaching jobs. She has criticized the campaign of Republican U.S. Sen. Scott Brown for suggesting that might be the case.

A third document obtained by the AP Thursday indicated that the University of Pennsylvania, where Warren also worked, identified her as a minority professor.
Brown has called on Warren to release all law school applications and personnel files from the universities where she taught.

Warren worked at the University of Texas from 1983 to 1987, when she took a job at the University of Pennsylvania Law School.

A report by a committee established to review the status of minority faculty at the University of Pennsylvania identifies Warren as a minority, however, without elaborating.

The new documents paint a fuller picture of Warren's law school record.
On the Rutgers application, Warren wrote "No" in response to the question: "Are you interested in applying for admission under the Program for Minority Group Students?"
Warren graduated from Rutgers in 1976.

On a personnel file from the University of Texas, Warren checked the box "White" when asked to select "the racial category or categories with which you most closely identify."
The categories included a box for "American Indian or Alaska Native," which Warren did not check.

Another document that surfaced Thursday is a 2005 report by a committee established to review the status of minority faculty at the University of Pennsylvania.
The report by the university's Minority Equity Committee includes a list of faculty members who worked at the school. Warren worked there as a law professor until 1995, when she left to take a job at Harvard Law School.
The report listed the names of minorities in bold and italics, and Warren's was included among those names. It indicated that Warren had won a teacher award at the school, and that only eight of the 112 awards give out during a 13-year span had gone to minority teachers.

Warren's campaign said the records from Rutgers and Texas bolster her argument that she was able to land a job at Harvard Law School in 1995 based on hard work and achievement, not claims of Native American heritage.
"At every law school where Elizabeth was recruited to teach, it has been made absolutely clear she was hired based on merit; on her accomplishments and ability," Warren spokeswoman Alethea Harney said in a statement Thursday.
"Documents from the college and law school from which she graduated show that Elizabeth did not seek special treatment by acknowledging her Native American heritage," Harney added.

Brown has said serious questions have been raised about Warren's claims to Native American ancestry and whether it was appropriate for her to assume minority status as a college professor, and that Warren should settle those questions by authorizing the release of her law school applications and all personnel files from the various universities where she has taught.

Harvard Law School professor Charles Fried has said that any suggestion that Warren enjoyed an affirmative action advantage in her hiring as a full professor is "false" and that Warren was recruited because of her expertise in bankruptcy and commercial law.
A Massachusetts genealogist said he uncovered evidence that Warren's great-great-great grandmother had listed herself as Cherokee in an 1894 document. That would make Warren a 1/32nd American Indian.


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RE: Elizabeth Warren Vindicated - 5/11/2012 9:06:10 AM   
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Anyone for some Swiss Miss chocolate?

Sort of a celebration?

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RE: Elizabeth Warren Vindicated - 5/11/2012 9:21:58 AM   
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How many of you (non-Native americans) have checked the "native American" box on any application and why would you? I would also assume EVERYONE here could trace some Native american ancestry somewhere in their family tree. She is a law professor. She knows what applications to NOT check "American Indian" on, to cover her ass if she got caught, which she did!

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RE: Elizabeth Warren Vindicated - 5/11/2012 9:26:12 AM   
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Thanks for the laser like play by play of the real story in the non issue.

I wonder how many people who have black folk in their ancestry don't check black?

I mean, nice fuckin save, hah?

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RE: Elizabeth Warren Vindicated - 5/11/2012 9:27:40 AM   
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I get to - Im half Cherokee. I still have to see any benefit come from it, except a few injun jokes here and there -

@ Ron - absofuckinlutely. Theres 500 years of race-mixing to sort through, and DNA tests are how recent?

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RE: Elizabeth Warren Vindicated - 5/11/2012 9:29:17 AM   
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When I get ahold of you we are gonna play a game of 'skins and shirts.

Guess who you're gonna be?

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RE: Elizabeth Warren Vindicated - 5/11/2012 9:31:41 AM   
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Next thing they need to do is investigate the committee that suspected there was an issue to begin with.

Cross the i's, dot the t's. Spend the cash. (How's that for an issue?)

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RE: Elizabeth Warren Vindicated - 5/11/2012 9:46:24 AM   
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RE: Elizabeth Warren Vindicated - 5/11/2012 9:51:32 AM   
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But...but...truth eases us into action!

And there's nothing wrong with that kind of action.

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RE: Elizabeth Warren Vindicated - 5/11/2012 9:57:31 AM   
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Well there was a DNA study released not to long ago saying that 1 in every 200 people can trace DNA back to Genghis Khan, never heard of or read a study supporting your assumption for Native American Ancestry,

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RE: Elizabeth Warren Vindicated - 5/11/2012 10:05:10 AM   
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Ja, in Mongolia, everybody is 'related' to Genghis Khan.  Just like in America, where everybody has only six degrees of separation from Kevin Bacon. Except Chuck Norris, who beats up Genghis Khan, and tells Kevin Bacon to stay at least seven blocks away from him. 

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RE: Elizabeth Warren Vindicated - 5/11/2012 5:07:00 PM   
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Warren may actually be more than 1/32, if both of her mother's parents had Native American blood, as Warren had once claimed. Not that it matters.

One thing I did find interesting, Bill John Baker, principal chief of the Cherokee tribe is 1/32 Cherokee.


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RE: Elizabeth Warren Vindicated - 5/11/2012 5:38:43 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: papassion


How many of you (non-Native americans) have checked the "native American" box on any application and why would you? I would also assume EVERYONE here could trace some Native american ancestry somewhere in their family tree.



Why would you make such an assanine assumption?



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She is a law professor. She knows what applications to NOT check "American Indian" on, to cover her ass if she got caught, which she did!


She was not a law professor when she applied to rutgers.
You seem quite anxious to paint this woman with any kind of brush you can get your hand on.
Even to the point of reading her mind.


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RE: Elizabeth Warren Vindicated - 5/11/2012 5:51:57 PM   
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I wasn't going to bring it up, but, since we have another thread, what the hell.

In the records searching that's been going on, it has been determined that Ms. Warren's great-great-great-grandfather, the husband of her Cherokee ancestor, was with the militia responsible for rounding up the Cherokee, removing them from their homes and lands, and putting them into the camps from which they forced out onto the Trail of Tears.

Some might speculate that he decided to keep himself a souvenir...

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RE: Elizabeth Warren Vindicated - 5/11/2012 5:56:37 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

Some might speculate that he decided to keep himself a souvenir...



YIKES!!!



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RE: Elizabeth Warren Vindicated - 5/11/2012 6:05:04 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

I wasn't going to bring it up, but, since we have another thread, what the hell.

In the records searching that's been going on, it has been determined that Ms. Warren's great-great-great-grandfather, the husband of her Cherokee ancestor, was with the militia responsible for rounding up the Cherokee, removing them from their homes and lands, and putting them into the camps from which they forced out onto the Trail of Tears.

Some might speculate that he decided to keep himself a souvenir...


It seems that you have speculated...why?
Does it somehow make you feel good to speculate about things you know nothing about?
What was it that prompted you to post this tripe?
Was it a desire to bring out the truth?
What truth have you brought out.
How does your speculaton differ from someone speculating about your mother and the milk man?


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RE: Elizabeth Warren Vindicated - 5/11/2012 6:13:57 PM   
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It might be time to go change the water in your swamp cooler, Thompson. You seem to be a bit overheated, and what looks to be a hot summer is just getting started.

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RE: Elizabeth Warren Vindicated - 5/11/2012 6:43:37 PM   
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Sort of a celebration?

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We could celebrate by indenturing to whiteslavers on like B.com or something.


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RE: Elizabeth Warren Vindicated - 5/11/2012 6:51:49 PM   
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RE: Elizabeth Warren Vindicated - 5/11/2012 7:12:19 PM   
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Next thing they need to do is investigate the committee that suspected there was an issue to begin with.


I'll be happy to explain. A company that feeds deals to Bain Capital owns 1/5 of The Boston Herald (actually, to be honest I'd have to ask Mike if WP still has their piece, or turned it over to Bain, or sold it elsewhere, it's been at least 4 years since I knew the status ... but influence lingers, if you catch my drift). Anyway the Herald has been digging on Warren ever since she declared last year. And their Broadcast affiliate has a clown Named Howie Carr (You may remember Howie from Mike Dukakis' run against George Herbert Walker Bush in 88), where Howie and his now dead friend and colleague spring the Willie Horton controversy.
Anyway the news Organization has a Sterling reputation for vicious behavior. It also looks almost exactly like the NY Post. Another deeply loved tabloid.
So they finally hit pay dirt and took advantage of it. There is absolutely no way anyone will ever trace it back to Bain or Scott Brown's campaign... but really ... how hard is this to figure out?
Most Bostonians who understand the local political landscape don't even bother wondering where this came from. Brown will say no attack politics and hire Compasspoint GPS the next day. In fact, THEY DID over 8 months ago.


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