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E does NOT equal M C squared! - 5/3/2012 11:47:04 AM   
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Sometimes, when I'm in need of a good laugh or when I need to have my jaw drop off and hit the floor... I visit Conservapedia.

In the past I have marveled and guffawed at the inanity of such entries as clitoris, BDSM, evolution, etc.

Now I have found THIS stunner.

Sometimes I don't know whether to laugh or cry.




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RE: E does NOT equal M C squared! - 5/3/2012 11:54:11 AM   
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Status: offline 		E=mc² is liberal claptrap[3] .

Biblical Scientific Foreknowledge predicts that a unified theory of all the laws of physics is impossible, because light and matter were created at different times, in different ways, as described in the Book of Genesis.

3. ↑ Citation not needed. See here, point 14.

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RE: E does NOT equal M C squared! - 5/3/2012 12:00:54 PM   
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In October 2010, Scientific American criticized Conservapedia's attitude towards the Theory of Relativity, assigning them a zero score on their 0 to 100 fallacy-versus-fact "Science Index", describing Conservapedia as "the online encyclopedia run by conservative lawyer Andrew Schlafly, [which] implies that Einstein's theory of relativity is part of a liberal plot."[43]





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RE: E does NOT equal M C squared! - 5/3/2012 12:01:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		Oh some of you guys are going to love this one. Enter the word masturbation into conservapedia's search bar.

These people are so enclosed in their own little word I'm surprised they don't go into nuclear fusion.

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RE: E does NOT equal M C squared! - 5/3/2012 12:02:45 PM   
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Holy shit, I guess it's NOT satire!


No, it's not. That's why I really, really, don't know whether to laugh or cry.

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RE: E does NOT equal M C squared! - 5/3/2012 12:05:36 PM   
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Oh some of you guys are going to love this one. Enter the word masturbation into conservapedia's search bar.


Creationism run amok.

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RE: E does NOT equal M C squared! - 5/3/2012 12:09:34 PM   
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RE: E does NOT equal M C squared! - 5/3/2012 12:12:00 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Marc2b

Or so I have been recently found out.

Sometimes, when I'm in need of a good laugh or when I need to have my jaw drop off and hit the floor... I visit Conservapedia.

In the past I have marveled and guffawed at the inanity of such entries as clitoris, BDSM, evolution, etc.

Now I have found THIS stunner.

Sometimes I don't know whether to laugh or cry.




"no theory" to that author(s) ignores the last 60 years of physics.

Especially the zero point field. And no exchange between matter and light? We can MEASURE it, for Christ's sakes.

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RE: E does NOT equal M C squared! - 5/3/2012 12:12:59 PM   
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Sometimes I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

I thought Conservapedia was supposed to be a joke that ridicules the extreme Christian right but it seems not.

There sure are some batshit insane sites out there, and there's even a left-wing equivalent http://liberalpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Liberal-Pedia_Wiki




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RE: E does NOT equal M C squared! - 5/3/2012 12:13:02 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

I think I broke the site. I did a search for "Vagina" and it's just sitting there with the little circular 'searching' icon going round and round.

It's deciding which circle of hell to condemn you to.

Of course, Circles of Hell were invented by pagans, but hey.

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RE: E does NOT equal M C squared! - 5/3/2012 12:50:47 PM   
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RE: E does NOT equal M C squared! - 5/3/2012 1:21:39 PM   
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Unrelated to Biblical Scientific Foreknowledge (it hurts just to type that) but not to the topic of Einstein's mass-energy relation...
    What's wrong with E = mc^2?

    Well, to put it bluntly, there is no such thing as a mass-energy relation. What does exist is a mass-energy-momentum relation. The equation Einstein came up with more than a century ago can be considered a degenerate form of the mass-energy-momentum relation for vanishing momentum.

    Einstein was very well aware of this, and in later papers repetitively stressed that his mass-energy equation is strictly limited to observers co-moving with the object under study. However, very, very few people seem to have paid attention to Einstein's warnings, nor to any of the more recent warnings.

    Even worse, the vast majority of authors of popular science books take great liberty in applying E=mc2 to objects moving at speeds close to the speed of light, and then declare mass to increase with velocity in an attempt to recover consistency in what has become an incoherent mix of relativistic and Newtonian dynamics.

    Theoretical physicist Lev Okun refers to this practice as a “pedagogical virus”.
It's a fascinating article.

K.

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RE: E does NOT equal M C squared! - 5/3/2012 2:02:02 PM   
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He didn't want to name it relativity, he wanted to name it invariants theory.

E=m c^ c is energy = mass X speed of light X speed of light (celerity)

He had two parts to the theory

General (Gravity)
Special (high speed motion)

G=Gravity and S=speed for those who want bottom line quick.

vanishing or materializing still maintains a relation.

momentum is part of the equation, and it holds for special relativity, and gravity (which at this point is limited to like 32 ft per second/per second on earth).

the energy mass equivalence is this
the mass of a material object is the measure of its energy content.

how much do you think the light pressing down on earth weighs?

the crap is just beyond reason. 




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RE: E does NOT equal M C squared! - 5/3/2012 2:48:20 PM   
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thanks OP, great find.

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RE: E does NOT equal M C squared! - 5/3/2012 3:35:35 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

I did a search for "Vagina" and it's just sitting there with the little circular 'searching' icon going round and round.


Ironically apropos, don't you think?

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RE: E does NOT equal M C squared! - 5/3/2012 3:57:51 PM   
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RE: E does NOT equal M C squared! - 5/3/2012 4:12:31 PM   
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RE: E does NOT equal M C squared! - 5/3/2012 4:29:29 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Kirata


Unrelated to Biblical Scientific Foreknowledge (it hurts just to type that) but not to the topic of Einstein's mass-energy relation...
    What's wrong with E = mc^2?

    Well, to put it bluntly, there is no such thing as a mass-energy relation. What does exist is a mass-energy-momentum relation. The equation Einstein came up with more than a century ago can be considered a degenerate form of the mass-energy-momentum relation for vanishing momentum.

    Einstein was very well aware of this, and in later papers repetitively stressed that his mass-energy equation is strictly limited to observers co-moving with the object under study. However, very, very few people seem to have paid attention to Einstein's warnings, nor to any of the more recent warnings.

    Even worse, the vast majority of authors of popular science books take great liberty in applying E=mc2 to objects moving at speeds close to the speed of light, and then declare mass to increase with velocity in an attempt to recover consistency in what has become an incoherent mix of relativistic and Newtonian dynamics.

    Theoretical physicist Lev Okun refers to this practice as a “pedagogical virus”.
It's a fascinating article.

K.

so is Lev Okun right?

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RE: E does NOT equal M C squared! - 5/3/2012 4:43:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm sure I heard something recently about some particles found at CERN that don't behave as the equation suggests... Will have to look see if I can find the article again

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RE: E does NOT equal M C squared! - 5/4/2012 6:48:26 AM   
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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

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I get such a laugh out of that. It does explain all the pained expressions on the women's faces at the convention though. Did you try the search for BDSM? Don't think much of us, do they? But at least we know where we stand with them.

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