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RE: Have people gotten crazier in the last four years? - 5/2/2012 8:54:24 PM

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I guess I have to agree with LaT on the blessings statement. Life has been good to Me, I hate to think of those people who are or were at the end of their rope. I shall keep them in My prayers tonight.

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RE: Have people gotten crazier in the last four years? - 5/2/2012 10:08:25 PM

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I dunno,.. people jumped out of windows with the stock market crash in the Great Depression too. That is one image from that time, even tho it wasnt many people that actually did that..

Actually, the only person to throw themselves out of a building on the day of the stock market crash was a middle aged secretary...and I doubt she did it because her investments tanked. I think the level of crazy is the same as at any other difficult time in history, but we hear about it more and with easier acces to all sorts of things people are ending it all in more "show-y" ways.

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RE: Have people gotten crazier in the last four years? - 5/2/2012 10:47:27 PM

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I dunno,.. people jumped out of windows with the stock market crash in the Great Depression too. That is one image from that time, even tho it wasnt many people that actually did that..

Actually, the only person to throw themselves out of a building on the day of the stock market crash was a middle aged secretary...and I doubt she did it because her investments tanked. I think the level of crazy is the same as at any other difficult time in history, but we hear about it more and with easier acces to all sorts of things people are ending it all in more "show-y" ways.

lol You are taking me way too literally, I was not referring to one single day in history nor one single method of suicide, it was a stereotype.. the media embellished a tad..

"Several well-publicized suicides did fulfill the stereotype. Winston Churchill, visiting New York, was awakened the day after Black Tuesday by the noise of a crowd outside the Savoy-Plaza Hotel. "Under my very window a gentleman cast himself down fifteen storeys and was dashed to pieces, causing a wild commotion and the arrival of the fire brigade," he wrote.

In 1929: The Year of the Great Crash (1989) historian William K. Klingaman says asphyxiation by gas was the most common method of doing oneself in, although there was considerable variety. He writes:
The wife of a Long Island broker shot herself in the heart; a utilities executive in Rochester, New York, shut himself in his bathroom and opened a wall jet of illuminating gas; a St. Louis broker swallowed poison; a Philadelphia financier shot himself in his athletic club; a divorcee in Allentown, Pennsylvania, closed the doors and windows of her home and turned on a gas oven. In Milwaukee, one gentleman who took his own life left a note that read, 'My body should go to science, my soul to Andrew W. Mellon, and sympathy to my creditors.' "

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2412/after-the-1929-stock-market-crash-did-investors-really-jump-out-of-windows

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RE: Have people gotten crazier in the last four years? - 5/3/2012 12:02:47 AM

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Crime has been dropping for years. Yea, yea Wiki, but the same numbers are available via DOJ etc. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States

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RE: Have people gotten crazier in the last four years? - 5/3/2012 7:21:13 AM

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But may the ones who take their children or other family members down with them rot in hell forever.

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I guess I have to agree with LaT on the blessings statement. Life has been good to Me, I hate to think of those people who are or were at the end of their rope. I shall keep them in My prayers tonight.

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RE: Have people gotten crazier in the last four years? - 5/3/2012 8:18:27 AM

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I guess, for me........it depends upon what those 'others' have already suffered. I don't view death as all that horrible.

I am reminded of something I read once.......'Only the living fear death.'

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RE: Have people gotten crazier in the last four years? - 5/3/2012 8:44:03 AM

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Really? As far as I am concerned, the 5 kids that were killed should have had a chance to decide that themselves.

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RE: Have people gotten crazier in the last four years? - 5/3/2012 8:45:07 AM

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I assume that is just because they were children?

Because very few of us get to decide when we are going to die.

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RE: Have people gotten crazier in the last four years? - 5/3/2012 8:52:58 AM

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No, not just because they were children. But because some nut job shouldn't have been able to decide for them. Somehow I doubt it was the choice they would have made. Since I believe that this life is all there is, I think it is pretty precious. Plus I empathize with the suffering their mother has undoubtedly gone through.

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RE: Have people gotten crazier in the last four years? - 5/3/2012 9:05:43 AM

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Certainly I empathize with the mother. I cannot imagine her agony.

But again, I just cannot see death as all that big of a tragedy aside from that. Regardless of age.

We live, we die. There are billions of people that have died before a ripe old age. A large number of them because of the acts of another person.

While most of these stories are sad, big picture, it really is just part of the human story.

The only sadness I can muster up is for those that loved them and lost. But still, I don't see it as more tragic than any other death.

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RE: Have people gotten crazier in the last four years? - 5/3/2012 9:24:46 AM

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Last September, my brother's GF of 8 years killed herself. She was physically healthy, but had recently been diagnosed with clinical depression. She had tried twice before with drugs. This time she used a gun that she had bought a few years ago for home defense when she had lived alone. She had been texting her sister, who called my brother. My brother rushed home and heard the shot as he ran down the hall to their apartment. She killed herself in their living room. My brother tried to revive her. He has spent every day since as a tortured soul.

I'm very torn about this, because I do believe we have the right to end our lives in certain situations. But, I've also seen how a suicide rips a family apart, first hand. What my brother has gone through is horrible and he spends his days asking "why?" and "what if?"

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RE: Have people gotten crazier in the last four years? - 5/3/2012 9:49:37 AM

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Sadly, I can't be quite so sanguine.

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Certainly I empathize with the mother. I cannot imagine her agony.

But again, I just cannot see death as all that big of a tragedy aside from that. Regardless of age.

We live, we die. There are billions of people that have died before a ripe old age. A large number of them because of the acts of another person.

While most of these stories are sad, big picture, it really is just part of the human story.

The only sadness I can muster up is for those that loved them and lost. But still, I don't see it as more tragic than any other death.