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Mad cow disease found in CA - 4/24/2012 9:45:22 PM   
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See article below. If BSE gets into the human population, we are fucked.


The USDA has confirmed that a case of mad cow disease was found in a California dairy cow. It is the fourth case of mad cow, or bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE), found in U.S. cattle since the first in December 2003. Los Angeles-based Baker Commodities confirmed that the cow was discovered in a Hanford, Calif. transfer station after workers selected the cow for random sampling. The company does not yet know which farm the cow came from.

USDA Chief Veterinary Officer John Clifford said Tuesday afternoon that the cow did not enter the human food chain and that all U.S. meat and dairy supplies are safe. Further mitigating the risk to the public, milk does not transmit BSE.

According to the USDA, the animal's carcass is being held under state authority at a California rendering facility and will be destroyed. "It was never presented for slaughter for human consumption, so at no time presented a risk to the food supply or human health," Clifford said.


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RE: Mad cow disease found in CA - 4/24/2012 10:05:35 PM   
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Better switch to fish or non-cow meat.

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RE: Mad cow disease found in CA - 4/24/2012 10:06:09 PM   
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Or local beef from a trusted source

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RE: Mad cow disease found in CA - 4/24/2012 10:25:58 PM   
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That won't necessarily protect you.

"...the California cow is what scientists call an atypical case of BSE, meaning that it didn't get the disease from eating infected cattle feed, which is important.
That means it's "just a random mutation that can happen every once in a great while in an animal," said Bruce Akey, director of the New York State Veterinary Diagnostic Laboratory at Cornell University. "Random mutations go on in nature all the time."
The atypical form of BSE that is caused by protein mutation also occurs in humans. Called classic Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, it is found at a rate of one case per 1 million people worldwide, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
"It's not unreasonable to think that something similar could occur in cattle," said Terry Lehenbauer, director of the School of Veterinary Medicine Research Centers at the University of California, Davis. "We just don't know all the science about how this disease develops and is transmitted." ..."

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jlWA6pPT_ht8H98xggr0CnQYSZRA?docId=108bfe5103e74427b5eb8e2f75b58ff9

Btw- it can also be found in deer, elk, goats, sheep and other animals like squirrels.

http://mikesanubis.com/2012/03/13/mad-cow-disease-has-broken-out-in-kentucky-recently-due-to-consumption-of-squirrel-brains/


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RE: Mad cow disease found in CA - 4/25/2012 3:09:43 AM   
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See article below. If BSE gets into the human population, we are fucked.



From my understanding, it doesn't really have a means of getting from human to human as long as you don't eat human brains as delicious as those are... mmmm brains.

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RE: Mad cow disease found in CA - 4/25/2012 3:25:46 AM   
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I think there IS some looose way we becaome carriers though. Because I know in Australia, anyone who lived in the UK between a certain time period cannot donate blood and have to notify hospital staff if they have an operation.

I'll ask around at work tomorrow & report back.

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RE: Mad cow disease found in CA - 4/25/2012 6:56:57 AM   
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The company does not yet know which farm the cow came from.


Last I know there was vigorous industry opposition to a tracking program. I see from the google previews that the shell of a program was scrapped in 2010, but the full articles are dead. The tracking program was withering on the vine when this article was written in 2007. I don't know how many of the practices are still current.

Mad-cow scrutiny is scaled way back

Originally published Thursday, February 22, 2007

Mad-cow disease

Dec. 23, 2003: A Yakima Valley dairy cow on its way to slaughter tests positive for mad-cow disease. The cow originally came from Canada, where the disease had been first confirmed in May.

Dec. 30, 2003: The U.S. Department of Agriculture bans "downer" cattle, those too sick or injured to walk, from the food supply.

Jan. 26, 2004: The Food and Drug Administration proposes banning feeding cow blood, chicken manure and food scraps to cattle.

June 1, 2004: USDA launches a program to test at least 220,000 animals for mad-cow over the next 12 to 18 months.

November 2004: USDA starts a voluntary pilot program to track and identify cattle in seven Western states.

May 2005: Agriculture Secretary Mike Johanns says a mandatory, nationwide animal-tracking system will be in place by 2009.

June 24, 2005: Tests of a Texas beef cow confirm the second case of mad-cow disease in the U.S.

March 2006: The nation's third case of mad-cow disease is confirmed in a cow in Alabama.

April 2006: USDA says it will scale back mad-cow testing after determining the prevalence of the disease in the nation's cattle herd is "extraordinarily low."

Nov. 22, 2006: USDA reverses its plans and says the national animal-tracking program will be voluntary, not mandatory.

Jan. 4, 2007: USDA says it may lift a ban on the importation of older cows from Canada.

Last week: Canada reports its ninth mad-cow case.

While Washington ranchers are raising a fuss over Canadian cattle and the danger of mad-cow disease, the region's only mad-cow testing lab is quietly preparing to close March 1.

The lab at Washington State University in Pullman opened after the nation's first mad-cow case spurred a flurry of new safeguards against the fatal, brain-wasting disease.

But three years later, many of those measures are being dismantled. Others proposed after the infected dairy cow was discovered in Mabton, Yakima County, never materialized.

The U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) recently scaled back mad-cow testing by more than 90 percent, leading to closure of the WSU lab and several others around the country. The agency has backed off plans for a mandatory animal-tracking system, which can help identify the source of an infection and other animals at risk, and now says the program will be voluntary.

Several of the unappetizing — and risky — practices that came to light in the wake of the initial mad-cow case are still allowed, including the use of cow blood as a food supplement for calves.

And even the prohibition on slaughtering sickly cows, called downers, for human consumption has not been made permanent, though it is being enforced.

"There have been some improvements, but USDA stopped short of implementing several important programs that are vital not only to protect against [mad-cow], but to protect the industry against other diseases," said Caroline Smith DeWaal, director of food safety at the Center for Science in the Public Interest (CSPI), a nonprofit consumer-advocacy group.

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RE: Mad cow disease found in CA - 4/25/2012 7:00:52 AM   
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I think there IS some looose way we becaome carriers though. Because I know in Australia, anyone who lived in the UK between a certain time period cannot donate blood and have to notify hospital staff if they have an operation.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creutzfeldt–Jakob_disease

Blood donor restrictions

In 2004 a new report published in the Lancet medical journal showed that vCJD can be transmitted by blood transfusions.[21] The finding alarmed healthcare officials because a large epidemic of the disease could result in the near future. There is no test to determine if a blood donor is infected with vCJD. In reaction to this report, the UK government banned anyone who had received a blood transfusion since January 1980 from donating blood.[22] From 1999 there has been a ban in the UK for using UK blood to manufacture fractional products such as albumin.[23]

Sperm donor restrictions

In the U.S., the FDA has banned import of any donor sperm, motivated by a risk of Creutzfeldt–Jakob disease, inhibiting the once popular[29] import of, for example, Scandinavian sperm. The risk, however, is not known, since artificial insemination has not been studied as a route of transmission.[30][30]

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RE: Mad cow disease found in CA - 4/25/2012 10:16:33 AM   
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cjd has been in humans for years. there are a number of cases in the uk, and probably elsewhere in the world. as with most things that are 'new', it may have actually been around in humans for a hell of a long time and mis-diagnosed as other things.

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RE: Mad cow disease found in CA - 4/25/2012 1:40:05 PM   
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Blood donor restrictions

In 2004 a new report published in the Lancet medical journal showed that vCJD can be transmitted by blood transfusions.[21] The finding alarmed healthcare officials because a large epidemic of the disease could result in the near future. There is no test to determine if a blood donor is infected with vCJD. In reaction to this report, the UK government banned anyone who had received a blood transfusion since January 1980 from donating blood.[22] From 1999 there has been a ban in the UK for using UK blood to manufacture fractional products such as albumin.[23]



That is a bit scary.

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RE: Mad cow disease found in CA - 4/25/2012 5:15:14 PM   
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cjd has been in humans for years. there are a number of cases in the uk, and probably elsewhere in the world. as with most things that are 'new', it may have actually been around in humans for a hell of a long time and mis-diagnosed as other things.

needles


Good point.

It's like how in Australia, people are getting diagnosed with Lyme disease but our government refuses to admit we have Lyme disease carrying ticks. Well, hello, if these people have never left Australia, and have positive blood tests for it, I think they have it!

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RE: Mad cow disease found in CA - 4/25/2012 5:44:23 PM   
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i had a tick bite recently, i didn't have the target ring around the bite, and it was eventually considered one of the Queensland Spotted fevers. the treatment is the same for Lyme fortunately. but i remember the ER dr saying there was no way it could be lyme, as it wasn't in australia. and researching and finding a lot of anecdotal evidence it is. as i remember, in many parts of the US, it was the same - lot of denial for a very long time.

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RE: Mad cow disease found in CA - 4/26/2012 6:23:26 AM   
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When I was bitten by a Brown Recluse Spider, the first doctor said, "There's no way it could be a BRS - they are not native to New York." The next day, when I was at the ER, feverish and with red lines of infection marching up my leg, a different doctor treated my infection much more aggressively with a course of intravenous antibiotics.

Note - do not Google Image "Brown Recluse Spider bites" while eating

I sought treatment much sooner than those people and just have a little scar as a memento.

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RE: Mad cow disease found in CA - 4/26/2012 6:40:34 AM   
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If it was a single natural mutation occurance.. impossible to stop natural mutations from happening..

strange that the animal was so young and died, only 30 months.. it was a dairy cow so its had to have had babies.. wonder where they are and if they inherited it..

do they still grind up left over critter parts and sick critters and feed it back to critters?

my parents only fed our critters real critter food, they grazed grass, they got oats, they got (non-gmo) corn stalks, they got home grown alfalfa, they got hay, they got molasses... they were spoiled..

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RE: Mad cow disease found in CA - 4/26/2012 3:02:05 PM   
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That won't necessarily protect you.

"...the California cow is what scientists call an atypical case of BSE, meaning that it didn't get the disease from eating infected cattle feed, which is important.
That means it's "just a random mutation that can happen every once in a great while in an animal," said Bruce Akey, director of the New York State Veterinary Diagnostic Laboratory at Cornell University. "Random mutations go on in nature all the time."
The atypical form of BSE that is caused by protein mutation also occurs in humans. Called classic Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, it is found at a rate of one case per 1 million people worldwide, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
"It's not unreasonable to think that something similar could occur in cattle," said Terry Lehenbauer, director of the School of Veterinary Medicine Research Centers at the University of California, Davis. "We just don't know all the science about how this disease develops and is transmitted." ..."

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jlWA6pPT_ht8H98xggr0CnQYSZRA?docId=108bfe5103e74427b5eb8e2f75b58ff9

Btw- it can also be found in deer, elk, goats, sheep and other animals like squirrels.

http://mikesanubis.com/2012/03/13/mad-cow-disease-has-broken-out-in-kentucky-recently-due-to-consumption-of-squirrel-brains/



Thank you thank you thank you! Gawd I love beef and I really don't need yet another thing to be worrying about right now. You are so good at finding those links and I wanted you to know that I went from bulging eyed AAAAH! to relaxed.

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RE: Mad cow disease found in CA - 4/26/2012 3:07:39 PM   
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Well, I made the very large mistake of ignoring your advice and googling ":Brown Recluse Spider bites" while eating.
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When I was bitten by a Brown Recluse Spider, the first doctor said, "There's no way it could be a BRS - they are not native to New York." The next day, when I was at the ER, feverish and with red lines of infection marching up my leg, a different doctor treated my infection much more aggressively with a course of intravenous antibiotics.

Note - do not Google Image "Brown Recluse Spider bites" while eating

I sought treatment much sooner than those people and just have a little scar as a memento.


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RE: Mad cow disease found in CA - 4/26/2012 3:11:17 PM   
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quote:

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That won't necessarily protect you.

"...the California cow is what scientists call an atypical case of BSE, meaning that it didn't get the disease from eating infected cattle feed, which is important.
That means it's "just a random mutation that can happen every once in a great while in an animal," said Bruce Akey, director of the New York State Veterinary Diagnostic Laboratory at Cornell University. "Random mutations go on in nature all the time."
The atypical form of BSE that is caused by protein mutation also occurs in humans. Called classic Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, it is found at a rate of one case per 1 million people worldwide, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
"It's not unreasonable to think that something similar could occur in cattle," said Terry Lehenbauer, director of the School of Veterinary Medicine Research Centers at the University of California, Davis. "We just don't know all the science about how this disease develops and is transmitted." ..."

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jlWA6pPT_ht8H98xggr0CnQYSZRA?docId=108bfe5103e74427b5eb8e2f75b58ff9

Btw- it can also be found in deer, elk, goats, sheep and other animals like squirrels.

http://mikesanubis.com/2012/03/13/mad-cow-disease-has-broken-out-in-kentucky-recently-due-to-consumption-of-squirrel-brains/




This is making me want to return to veganism.

I'm struggling with the whole loving bacon thing, though. I don't see pig up there in your list.

(My former veggie self is appalled at me.)

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RE: Mad cow disease found in CA - 4/26/2012 4:27:53 PM   
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Thank you thank you thank you! Gawd I love beef and I really don't need yet another thing to be worrying about right now. You are so good at finding those links and I wanted you to know that I went from bulging eyed AAAAH! to relaxed.


Also, beef that is meant to be eaten is processed in a particular way so that the parts that are capable of carrying prions are completely excluded to prevent any potential contamination with the consumable parts.
Those excluded parts are destroyed and not included into any kind of animal feeds

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RE: Mad cow disease found in CA - 4/27/2012 7:42:12 PM   
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http://www.meat.org/

Returns to enjoying my food that doesn't scream when it's slaughtered.

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RE: Mad cow disease found in CA - 4/27/2012 10:24:58 PM   
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I certainly don't trust slaughterhouses. I wouldn't count on their processes.
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Thank you thank you thank you! Gawd I love beef and I really don't need yet another thing to be worrying about right now. You are so good at finding those links and I wanted you to know that I went from bulging eyed AAAAH! to relaxed.


Also, beef that is meant to be eaten is processed in a particular way so that the parts that are capable of carrying prions are completely excluded to prevent any potential contamination with the consumable parts.
Those excluded parts are destroyed and not included into any kind of animal feeds



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