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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

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ORIGINAL: erieangel

I was having a discussion with somebody today when he brought up the phrase "hate the sin, love the sinner" saying that he is a Christian and that he lives by this Christian dogma.

However, this phrase is not in the Bible--no place. And further, it was not even a Christian who first uttered this phrase, but Mahatma Gandhi.
Today, the phrase is used by fundies as an excuse to beat up on homosexuals, pro-choice supporters, immigrants, women who (gasp) dare to want their health insurance to provide their birth control as a part of their no-copay preventative coverage, and every other group that does not proscribe to the fundamentalist narrow view of the world.

Oddly, this guy claimed the phrase to justify being friends with somebody who is not good for him. Since becoming friends, the guy I was having debate with has been robbed, used, gotten suspended from school and nearly lost his housing because of this toxic friendship. But he hates the sin and loves the sinner. He also forgives and forgets. I told him I also forgive. I've forgiven my-now-ex husband for cheating on me. I also divorced his ass. Forgiveness doesn't mean going back for more abuse. And hating the sin/loving the sinner doesn't mean that either.

So, in other words, you were ticked off with the kid for making a bad choice in a particular friendship and due to that, decided to come create a post to make negative remarks about Christians.  Does that about cover it?

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ORIGINAL: littlewonder

Ya know this got me to thinking about my daughter's friends. She makes friends with some people that do not have the same sets of morals and values as herself and I will ask her why she is friends with them. She usually says, well I don't like that they do this or that because I find those thinks not to be very good but I still like that person, they're fun to hang out with, we talk a lot and I just like them as a person. She'll shake her head when they do something stupid and even tell that friend that it's stupid but that's it.

Like she told me, it's their life, not her's. That doesn't mean she has to do or agree with everything they do. She still loves them as a friend. I don't really see what the big deal is. She loves the sinner but hates the sin.

I don't understand what your complaint is about. Are you saying that if someone does something bad that you don't agree with that you can't love them? Be their friend? You can't forgive them for their sin and still be part of them?

I'm just confused about your complaint.

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ORIGINAL: erieangel

I was having a discussion with somebody today when he brought up the phrase "hate the sin, love the sinner" saying that he is a Christian and that he lives by this Christian dogma.

However, this phrase is not in the Bible--no place. And further, it was not even a Christian who first uttered this phrase, but Mahatma Gandhi.
Today, the phrase is used by fundies as an excuse to beat up on homosexuals, pro-choice supporters, immigrants, women who (gasp) dare to want their health insurance to provide their birth control as a part of their no-copay preventative coverage, and every other group that does not proscribe to the fundamentalist narrow view of the world.

Oddly, this guy claimed the phrase to justify being friends with somebody who is not good for him. Since becoming friends, the guy I was having debate with has been robbed, used, gotten suspended from school and nearly lost his housing because of this toxic friendship. But he hates the sin and loves the sinner. He also forgives and forgets. I told him I also forgive. I've forgiven my-now-ex husband for cheating on me. I also divorced his ass. Forgiveness doesn't mean going back for more abuse. And hating the sin/loving the sinner doesn't mean that either.

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ORIGINAL: RedMagic1

I learned the first one as, "Longitudinally. Longitudinally!"

Heh. Sleep well. [;)]


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I don't think I want to explain this one, so apologies to 99% of everyone reading this. I'm confident DSG got it.