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Hillwilliam -> RE: Bald eagle in crosshairs of US fight over lead bullets (4/8/2012 4:26:08 PM)
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ORIGINAL: SilverBoat
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This means that for the math to be correct, every hunter would have to leave 16 game animals lying on the ground every year based on 12 million hunters in the US.
Do the math and ask yourself "Does this pass the smell test?".
Never seen the helicopter wild-pig shoot videos, with dozens of kills, have ya? ... And, okay, there ain't millions of hunters can afford that, but based on the stories I hear about hunting varmints, 16 per drunken hunter might be on the low side of average.
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Ste{e}l is out of the question. Not, it's not. In order to use steel, the projectiles would have to be coated with a thick jacket of softer metal such as copper or *Teflon* or the steel will destroy the barrel. That's already being done, full metal jacket. It doesn't matter what the coating is. Yes, it does matter, because the wrong coating can burn, gall, corrode, or be an environmental fuckup, but let's set that aside for now. Steel bullets are capable of penetrating armor and fortifications such as thick metals and brick walls. Obviously, more so than lead but less than tungsten or depleted uranium, in sabots, but that's military-grade stuff. The next thing we're gunna hear is cop killer ammo bla bla. Nonsense, steel bullets that mushroom and/or fragment on impact are already on the market.
The cost of making steel bullets that are safer for the environment than lead bullets is pretty much a wash or slightly cheaper than lead. With the exception of ballistic impact range, all the other yammering gun-nutcase objections have already been addressed.
So, why do they keep ranting and raving? ... Does that have more to do with their trying to hyperbolate divisive 'issues' against anything thay can contrive as political-machination of their liberals-are-attacking-pseudocons paranoia rallying-cry?
... (Note, the comment above was addressed to certain political groups in general, and not to any particular poster(s), so if they choose to pretend to be offended, it's entirely in their minds that the shoe presented fit them.)
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As for your helicopter hunts, that is for people who can afford several hundred dollars/hour. Do you know any? I dont. I've met between hundreds and thousands of hunters and never met one. I wonder how many are out there? a few dozen?
Join us in the real world please.
As for hunting varmints:
1. The bullet goes all the way thru so it isnt left in the carcass. Sorry but you obviously didnt read my post where I specified anything smaller than an elk, moose or bear typically has full penetration.
Drunken hunters? That's so stupid, Im not even going to grace it with a reply. You're just playing with the stereotypes and proving your own ignorance. [:D]
I bet you're one of those people that thinks everyone in the South still wears sheets on weekends and travels on steamboats.
Steel bullets:
Again, you're demonstrating a total lack of knowledge of the subject. Steel is much harder than copper, brass and lead. A steel bullet would rip the rifling (internal grooves that give the bullet spin) out of the barrel within just a few rounds. Fulol metal jacket is NOY steel. It is typically a copper alloy.
The hardness would also increase hazards such as riccochets and overpenetration.
If you find all steel bullets on the market for consumer use, please verify. Ive never seen any for civilian use.
In the future, please attempt to gain a semblance of knowledge of a subject prior to posting.
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